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posted ago by CuomoisaMassMurderer ago by CuomoisaMassMurderer +19 / -1

Most senior Officer in Minnedishu PD says that it is lethal force to put your knee on someone's neck. They have never been trained to do this with someone handcuffed behind their back while in the prone position.

He further states that simply being handcuffed with your hands behind your back makes it hard to breathe, and being in the prone position would make it even harder to breathe. For this reason once someone is handcuffed with their hands behind their back you get their chest off the ground. (GF's chest was on the ground the whole time) He said you usually get them on their side or sitting.

This came before the break at 10:45 local time, probably after 10:15.

He further states that of the 5 levels of force, once you have someone handcuffed behind their back you immediately drop to the lowest level of force and threat, the perp can't really hurt you, while they can still kick you can get out of the way.

Cross-examination should be interesting!

He also establishes that the Officer who handcuffs a perp immediately becomes responsible for their well being. I point out that if Chauvin didn't handcuff GF, this adds a wrinkle to the case.

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pushbackv2 3 points ago +3 / -0

This senior officer hasn't worked a beat since 1993. 28 years. They still had night sticks in 1993.

Nelson is going to shred this guy to pieces.

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Blue_Country_Refugee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Faggots on reddit still haven't figured out that if you're a cop with a white shirt on, you're a politician.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer [S] -2 points ago +1 / -3

deddit is irrelevant. This guy didn't come across as a politician, and answered all questions put before him directly.

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Blue_Country_Refugee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh? He blew his credibility when he repeatedly struggled to admit the possibility of things that were clearly visible on camera, such as a handcuffed person still posing a threat. Or that a hostile crowd could possibly ever influence his actions unless they were actively attacking him. Basically, he did the prosecution few favors and like many of the other witnesses may have had negative value.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

How do you see GF after being handcuffed still posing a threat? If defense could attack that notion, why didn't he do so in cross-examination? Seems important to me.

The idea of a hostile crowd influencing actions without actually attacking I'll agree with, but you have clear evidence that merely pointing out cops have pepper spray effectively controlled this "crowd." There were only 3 young men there. Chauvin and Tao made threatening motions with their spray and everybody backed off as told. This makes it hard to claim the crowd was a big factor, other than needing to keep an eye on them. Tao did that while the other 3 stayed on top of GF.

If you want to challenge this Lieutenant's credibility, show in the manual where this position is taught in the manual. That's what we've heard. Why didn't defense do that?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

Did you see Nelson shred him? I saw Nelson finish his questioning. I saw him concede that certain questions are best addressed by a defense trainer.

Nobody suggested 35 years of experience somehow makes him less qualified.

Nightsticks aren't involved.

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pushbackv2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Serious question., are you autistic?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

You should answer the question rather than getting personal.

I have worked giving support to autistic people. Clearly you don't understand what autism is, and misusing the word is a big problem that leads to people dying.

If I were on the spectrum I wouldn't be qualified to work with those that are.

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pushbackv2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Misgendering transexuals leads to transexuals dying too, right?

A simple "yes, I'm autistic" would have sufficed, but I appreciate you going the extra mile to demonstrate it.

Answer to question: no he didn't. See how easy that was instead of getting defensive and trying to impress people who don't get a fuck about your backstory?