Here's how I put it...there's no way everything we see could just pop out of a pinpoint in space. That's absurd.
If you were walking in the woods and saw a computer out there, would wouldn't say "oh well that just developed right there over time from a primordial ooze". No...clearly a more intelligent being is involved with that computer sitting on the forest floor.
This earth and humanity is that computer on the forest floor.
There's no way a god could just exist. That's absurd.
If I was walking in the woods and saw a computer, my past experiences with computers would tell me that it's overwhelmingly likely that this was made by a human, and if I desired to verify that I could even look at the serial numbers of the parts and check their authenticity. Can't really do that with people.
Given the complexity of nature as we know it, there's no way a god can't exist. Prove to me such complex things can exist without being created.
I'm not claiming to understand what god is...or even claiming to have the ability to understand what god is....I just know there is some form of a god...some sort of life force
Look at crystals, for example. They're beautifully ordered and structured, but even sitting down with some water and salt is enough to demonstrate they appear naturally. And your incredulity isn't proof of a god. If your god tried to make a universe suitable for humans he failed REALLY hard. If you were teleported to a random place in the universe, the probability is basically 1 that you're dumped in a vacuum and die quickly. Pretty much the only place in the universe where you wouldn't die is maybe a couple meters or so above the surface of the areas of this rock that aren't covered in ocean or too hot or cold. That's it. An infinitesimally small area of the universe supports human life. You just believe with zero hard proof.
Sure, if that were feasible, why not. But maybe it wasn't all that easy based on conditions, materials and a slew of other factors.
It may have been such that like a great meal, or dish, specific things needed to be manipulated or made to happen in order to achieve the ideal end result. In essence, the cook or chef is key to delivering a great product, or not.
Funny how many argue for evolution, yet we have yet to find the missing link. In essence, where is the half man, half ape, at least if you follow Darwin's bullshit.
The thing is most atheists think they're Darwin and Einstein just because they've heard of it and some of the basics.
Evolution is incredibly complex and while it might preclude Genesis being literal (which it obviously isn't nor does it make much sense for it to go into brutal detail explaining all the complex mathematics and processes of evolution to get the point across) it doesn't preclude a God. Why wouldn't a God that is so intelligent and powerful use evolution? There's far too much presumption.
Evolution is a fact. I use it myself and work with algorithms. It's perceivable everywhere. I would argue that if you believe in God you're denying his work by denying evolution. As someone who enjoys intellectual pursuits, it's not something that I would find entirely unintelligent. When I intelligently design, I use evolutionary processes sometimes. People pay me for it sometimes.
There's no sufficient deficit in the fossil record to disqualify it. That argument is like saying there isn't a galaxy because of the gaps between the stars. There's a good progression showing evolutionary steps.
Similar if people are treating Genesis literally and they believe in God I think that's said because Genesis has some interesting things to say and consider so if he is trying to speak to them they're struggling to translate.
If you don't believe in evolution, you're a retarded asshole. We use the principles of evolution all the time, and they demonstrably work, are highly logical, and have far better predictive power than intelligent design (that is, they have more than none).
Evolution is, put simply, the combination of the two observations that an offspring is not always (in sexually reproducing species, never) identical to its parents, and that things that are better at surviving will tend to reproduce more successfully. It's hardly a view of all of nature.
If you don't believe in intelligent design. You are a retarded asshole. End of story.
Here's how I put it...there's no way everything we see could just pop out of a pinpoint in space. That's absurd.
If you were walking in the woods and saw a computer out there, would wouldn't say "oh well that just developed right there over time from a primordial ooze". No...clearly a more intelligent being is involved with that computer sitting on the forest floor.
This earth and humanity is that computer on the forest floor.
There's no way a god could just exist. That's absurd.
If I was walking in the woods and saw a computer, my past experiences with computers would tell me that it's overwhelmingly likely that this was made by a human, and if I desired to verify that I could even look at the serial numbers of the parts and check their authenticity. Can't really do that with people.
No shit. It's metaphor, assclown.
Given the complexity of nature as we know it, there's no way a god can't exist. Prove to me such complex things can exist without being created.
I'm not claiming to understand what god is...or even claiming to have the ability to understand what god is....I just know there is some form of a god...some sort of life force
Look at crystals, for example. They're beautifully ordered and structured, but even sitting down with some water and salt is enough to demonstrate they appear naturally. And your incredulity isn't proof of a god. If your god tried to make a universe suitable for humans he failed REALLY hard. If you were teleported to a random place in the universe, the probability is basically 1 that you're dumped in a vacuum and die quickly. Pretty much the only place in the universe where you wouldn't die is maybe a couple meters or so above the surface of the areas of this rock that aren't covered in ocean or too hot or cold. That's it. An infinitesimally small area of the universe supports human life. You just believe with zero hard proof.
Agree, that intelligent design only points a finger at some energy, power or entity that directed natural processes.
Why direct a process when you can make one that directs itself?
Sure, if that were feasible, why not. But maybe it wasn't all that easy based on conditions, materials and a slew of other factors.
It may have been such that like a great meal, or dish, specific things needed to be manipulated or made to happen in order to achieve the ideal end result. In essence, the cook or chef is key to delivering a great product, or not.
Funny how many argue for evolution, yet we have yet to find the missing link. In essence, where is the half man, half ape, at least if you follow Darwin's bullshit.
The thing is most atheists think they're Darwin and Einstein just because they've heard of it and some of the basics.
Evolution is incredibly complex and while it might preclude Genesis being literal (which it obviously isn't nor does it make much sense for it to go into brutal detail explaining all the complex mathematics and processes of evolution to get the point across) it doesn't preclude a God. Why wouldn't a God that is so intelligent and powerful use evolution? There's far too much presumption.
Evolution is a fact. I use it myself and work with algorithms. It's perceivable everywhere. I would argue that if you believe in God you're denying his work by denying evolution. As someone who enjoys intellectual pursuits, it's not something that I would find entirely unintelligent. When I intelligently design, I use evolutionary processes sometimes. People pay me for it sometimes.
There's no sufficient deficit in the fossil record to disqualify it. That argument is like saying there isn't a galaxy because of the gaps between the stars. There's a good progression showing evolutionary steps.
Similar if people are treating Genesis literally and they believe in God I think that's said because Genesis has some interesting things to say and consider so if he is trying to speak to them they're struggling to translate.
If you don't believe in evolution, you're a retarded asshole. We use the principles of evolution all the time, and they demonstrably work, are highly logical, and have far better predictive power than intelligent design (that is, they have more than none).
"Evolution" is just a rudimentary understanding of how nature works...nature being basically gods creation.
Evolution is, put simply, the combination of the two observations that an offspring is not always (in sexually reproducing species, never) identical to its parents, and that things that are better at surviving will tend to reproduce more successfully. It's hardly a view of all of nature.