The thing is most atheists think they're Darwin and Einstein just because they've heard of it and some of the basics.
Evolution is incredibly complex and while it might preclude Genesis being literal (which it obviously isn't nor does it make much sense for it to go into brutal detail explaining all the complex mathematics and processes of evolution to get the point across) it doesn't preclude a God. Why wouldn't a God that is so intelligent and powerful use evolution? There's far too much presumption.
Evolution is a fact. I use it myself and work with algorithms. It's perceivable everywhere. I would argue that if you believe in God you're denying his work by denying evolution. As someone who enjoys intellectual pursuits, it's not something that I would find entirely unintelligent. When I intelligently design, I use evolutionary processes sometimes. People pay me for it sometimes.
There's no sufficient deficit in the fossil record to disqualify it. That argument is like saying there isn't a galaxy because of the gaps between the stars. There's a good progression showing evolutionary steps.
Similar if people are treating Genesis literally and they believe in God I think that's said because Genesis has some interesting things to say and consider so if he is trying to speak to them they're struggling to translate.
I agree that taking the extreme positions is plain stupid. Those pushing evolution all too often are extreme beyond compare. I have my faith, and my religion but that does not mean that nothing else much matters. Logic, common sense, etc., come in quite handy very often.
A super being or God would obviously use everything and anything it, He, or they could to get the job done, as such, like a great chef, prepare the brew, know that it is complete and let it run its course. Sure, why not? Call it what you will.
All of it is quite engrossing, I agree, and all of it requires full open debate as compared to simply adhering to just religion, or just science, and or whatever dogma one may adhere to.
This aside, science which is all about the evidence, has yet to provide the remains of that half-man, half-monkey confirming all that Darwin and Wallace wrote about. Hummm, I wonder why? LOL
What if I said that Darwin was fully funded by some very wealthy banking interests in the old continent so long ago? There is just so much and of course, any time anyone is over the target, the prompt response is CT. LMAO.
Well because they're right about evolution, it's an extremely strongly supported process and explanation for us taking shape. It's a bit like having people who believe all the celestial bodies orbit the earth. I start to observe a pattern when you have people like that a lot of the kind of people they attract aren't just people who understand evolution and care about sharing that to the best of their ability but that really only care about trashing the people with the weaker position to bolster their own sense of superiority.
To them it is not a class of people to share understanding with but to attack and they they feel they are allowed to, that they deserve it for being wrong as some twisted sense of justice that they are punishing people so it's alright to attack them.
What Darwin saw isn't just what he saw I see the same all around me. I've come to realise most people worshipping him don't see that.
The big reveals that most people are fake is when for example atheists suddenly wont touch Islam or completely ignore evolution, even biology or reality staring them right in the face as it applies to humans when it comes to sexual dimorphism or racial differences. Suddenly then nature isn't nature. Funnily suddenly then it's almost as if they do believe in intelligent design and boy is their non-existent God politically correct.
In reality nature is neither politically correct nor theologically correct.
And nature has no time or interest in BLM, or MSNBS, etc. Hey, do keep in mind that if life were free of humans, it would be all too boring. :D
Instead of fighting about Red or Blue, Dem or Rep, one religion v another, one nation v. another, humanity would be better off trying to figure out how to survive a massive meteor when it hits our planet, terra forming other planets, etc., etc., etc. And, that does not even include the current human impacting problems on this very planet.
I have to admit I find it somewhat amusing to see things like an atheist storm in to squash the creationists only to get squashed by an atheist that has at least bothered to explore the issues.
Most of them worship science and don't believe in anything outside of it and fail to understand its basic function. In philosophy and confronting reality science is merely a set of processes that extracts a subset of what we can possible know or be sure about. In effect it is the selection of the easiest problems.
Scientists like that because it makes them feel powerful, problems they can beat, enemies they can beat. They don't like to believe there's anything beyond that.
Things like religion and philosophy tackles harder questions often which may be impossible to answer or to know if it's the right answer.
Science offers questions where there is a process that can return your paper and give a green or a red tick. Science will mark your test for you. To people who worship science today if you can't see it with science or the question can't be marked then it doesn't exist.
Religion can have the problem of that all the answers to sometimes impossible questions are guesses, it's highly creative, filling the void with whatever you like because well, you can when it comes to mysteries.
The thing is most atheists think they're Darwin and Einstein just because they've heard of it and some of the basics.
Evolution is incredibly complex and while it might preclude Genesis being literal (which it obviously isn't nor does it make much sense for it to go into brutal detail explaining all the complex mathematics and processes of evolution to get the point across) it doesn't preclude a God. Why wouldn't a God that is so intelligent and powerful use evolution? There's far too much presumption.
Evolution is a fact. I use it myself and work with algorithms. It's perceivable everywhere. I would argue that if you believe in God you're denying his work by denying evolution. As someone who enjoys intellectual pursuits, it's not something that I would find entirely unintelligent. When I intelligently design, I use evolutionary processes sometimes. People pay me for it sometimes.
There's no sufficient deficit in the fossil record to disqualify it. That argument is like saying there isn't a galaxy because of the gaps between the stars. There's a good progression showing evolutionary steps.
Similar if people are treating Genesis literally and they believe in God I think that's said because Genesis has some interesting things to say and consider so if he is trying to speak to them they're struggling to translate.
I agree that taking the extreme positions is plain stupid. Those pushing evolution all too often are extreme beyond compare. I have my faith, and my religion but that does not mean that nothing else much matters. Logic, common sense, etc., come in quite handy very often.
A super being or God would obviously use everything and anything it, He, or they could to get the job done, as such, like a great chef, prepare the brew, know that it is complete and let it run its course. Sure, why not? Call it what you will.
All of it is quite engrossing, I agree, and all of it requires full open debate as compared to simply adhering to just religion, or just science, and or whatever dogma one may adhere to.
This aside, science which is all about the evidence, has yet to provide the remains of that half-man, half-monkey confirming all that Darwin and Wallace wrote about. Hummm, I wonder why? LOL
What if I said that Darwin was fully funded by some very wealthy banking interests in the old continent so long ago? There is just so much and of course, any time anyone is over the target, the prompt response is CT. LMAO.
Well because they're right about evolution, it's an extremely strongly supported process and explanation for us taking shape. It's a bit like having people who believe all the celestial bodies orbit the earth. I start to observe a pattern when you have people like that a lot of the kind of people they attract aren't just people who understand evolution and care about sharing that to the best of their ability but that really only care about trashing the people with the weaker position to bolster their own sense of superiority.
To them it is not a class of people to share understanding with but to attack and they they feel they are allowed to, that they deserve it for being wrong as some twisted sense of justice that they are punishing people so it's alright to attack them.
What Darwin saw isn't just what he saw I see the same all around me. I've come to realise most people worshipping him don't see that.
The big reveals that most people are fake is when for example atheists suddenly wont touch Islam or completely ignore evolution, even biology or reality staring them right in the face as it applies to humans when it comes to sexual dimorphism or racial differences. Suddenly then nature isn't nature. Funnily suddenly then it's almost as if they do believe in intelligent design and boy is their non-existent God politically correct.
In reality nature is neither politically correct nor theologically correct.
And nature has no time or interest in BLM, or MSNBS, etc. Hey, do keep in mind that if life were free of humans, it would be all too boring. :D
Instead of fighting about Red or Blue, Dem or Rep, one religion v another, one nation v. another, humanity would be better off trying to figure out how to survive a massive meteor when it hits our planet, terra forming other planets, etc., etc., etc. And, that does not even include the current human impacting problems on this very planet.
I have to admit I find it somewhat amusing to see things like an atheist storm in to squash the creationists only to get squashed by an atheist that has at least bothered to explore the issues.
Most of them worship science and don't believe in anything outside of it and fail to understand its basic function. In philosophy and confronting reality science is merely a set of processes that extracts a subset of what we can possible know or be sure about. In effect it is the selection of the easiest problems.
Scientists like that because it makes them feel powerful, problems they can beat, enemies they can beat. They don't like to believe there's anything beyond that.
Things like religion and philosophy tackles harder questions often which may be impossible to answer or to know if it's the right answer.
Science offers questions where there is a process that can return your paper and give a green or a red tick. Science will mark your test for you. To people who worship science today if you can't see it with science or the question can't be marked then it doesn't exist.
Religion can have the problem of that all the answers to sometimes impossible questions are guesses, it's highly creative, filling the void with whatever you like because well, you can when it comes to mysteries.