And nature has no time or interest in BLM, or MSNBS, etc. Hey, do keep in mind that if life were free of humans, it would be all too boring. :D
Instead of fighting about Red or Blue, Dem or Rep, one religion v another, one nation v. another, humanity would be better off trying to figure out how to survive a massive meteor when it hits our planet, terra forming other planets, etc., etc., etc. And, that does not even include the current human impacting problems on this very planet.
I have to admit I find it somewhat amusing to see things like an atheist storm in to squash the creationists only to get squashed by an atheist that has at least bothered to explore the issues.
Most of them worship science and don't believe in anything outside of it and fail to understand its basic function. In philosophy and confronting reality science is merely a set of processes that extracts a subset of what we can possible know or be sure about. In effect it is the selection of the easiest problems.
Scientists like that because it makes them feel powerful, problems they can beat, enemies they can beat. They don't like to believe there's anything beyond that.
Things like religion and philosophy tackles harder questions often which may be impossible to answer or to know if it's the right answer.
Science offers questions where there is a process that can return your paper and give a green or a red tick. Science will mark your test for you. To people who worship science today if you can't see it with science or the question can't be marked then it doesn't exist.
Religion can have the problem of that all the answers to sometimes impossible questions are guesses, it's highly creative, filling the void with whatever you like because well, you can when it comes to mysteries.
IMO, exploration is primeordial. We are here not to merely exist but to experience this reality, to enjoy, to learn, to grow, etc. Far too many get caught up with being right, they have to be right, as though that was ultimately the most important issue.
Science has started to come around, whereby they actually confirm when they simply just do not know, or do not have the answer, and that is just fine. Worshiping anything blindly, be it science or anything else is foolhardy. I adhere to the theme of St. Thomas who had to touch, had to see, had to confirm before he believed his Messiah.
I don't agree that religion simply offers guesses, creative or otherwise when it comes to problems or issues that are not quite understood by science, or man, just yet. To me, this only proves how much more humanity has to go before we are ready for ascension, if that is what is truly in our future. Just look back and gauge where man was in the 1,500 as compared to where we are now. In fact, in cosmic time, man has overachieved dramatically in only 500, 400 or the past 200 years.
Religion can necessarily only offer guesses in these matters. When it comes to the unknowable that's all anything can offer. If that is not the case then it falls under the domain of knowledge or science. Science does not deal with the unknowable because nothing can.
When you have questions and answers the point of science is to be able to not only offer answers which would be guesses initially but also identify correct answers leaving you with knowledge rather than belief which is in the domain of religion.
If people understood the relationship between science and religion better both of which should fall under philosophy then science would make religion better by reducing the scope of belief to only those things which you can't know so you're not left guessing when you don't have to, only when you have to.
Science is worse than it has been for a long time in many respects. Culturally it has massively degraded. People treat it like a religion and in many respects it's now science in name only. One of the worse cases you can get is when you mistake believing something for knowing something.
The institutes of science cannot be trusted. Science does not take precedence and yet they are the authority on knowledge. Look at what they have done to the world. They screwed up and released a virus causing a pandemic. If you look at all their denials none of it is scientific. They're using authority, not science to protect their reputation and preserve public faith in their creed. While science is great you cannot separate it from the man. A person is always a person before they are a scientist.
The culture of science is moribund. You should see what people wrote two to three thousand years ago or what they were talking about in Greece. People today have no idea what science is yet still claim to follow it.
IMO, while I respect your take on religion vs science I happen to believe that it is too severe and less than complete. I say this because all too often, science, which is supposed to be 100% correct, when faced with overwhelming fact has had to eat their own words. I need not remind you that science in Galileo's time truly believed, truly professed that the Earth was the center of the universe. Science develops, it is not a guarantee, nor the final answer to everything and anything and it eventually, per the scientific method gets the right answer. Religion, as professed by the Bible, never mind corrupt Rome, or other man controlled outlets, goes beyond that because it speaks to faith, it tries to address our souls, and does not neglect our humanity. Science is about the nuts and bolts, religion is all about the spirit. Truth lives in the spirit, not in science. Science in this sense only serves to confirm the truth, once it has been solved for.
Again, IMO, religion is NOT all about guesses as you state. But to many, or the uninformed that is precisely how it is perceived or perhaps misunderstood. I see it as a faith of things we cannot understand, but that in time will be proven out, as needed, by science.
The elephant in the room that you do not address is nothing other than finance. No not just economics, but the control, the matrix that revolves around owning humanity via a paycheck or actual money. There are very select, and very specific people that have this power and control over all things human. And, it is these bastards that have corrupted science, and the media and just about everything they touch including medicine. I am referring to the global banking lords that mostly live in the old continent, hiding in plain sight, while their puppets like BiXin, the criminal Bush clan, Cameltoe, and Feinstein, etc., move or dance to their music.
It was NOT science that released this virus. It is and was a planned event to depopulate and control the world such that they can have their planned RESET. What is the reset about? It is fully about finances and money. Their old fiat system of control has failed and this is what is actually moribund, not science and not anything else.
This select group is what I call the black hand of evil that ruins everything on this planet. It is fully infantile to speak about science and religion, and all else all the while fully ignoring or dismissing the miserable criminals that pulls the strings in ways always vicious and never in the best interests of humanity. Suffice to say that all one has to do is look to Britain, to the old City of London to find so much sick, murderous, and illegal activities all of which seek to destroy humanity for their benefit. The evil triad stands today fully prepared to continue the destruction. They give their puppets nice titles like Minister this, or Counselor that, or maybe even Secretary of State. Refer to war criminal Henry Kissinger. :D
So tell me, why do most scientist deny, refuse to accept, and never want to talk about the fact that relics on this planet remain that specifically point out civilizations that lived on this planet, many thousands of years ago. Why is that? Yeah, let's talk about science, but first let's talk about the power and control matrix that permeates this existence. Suffice to say that we are NOT alone, we have never been ALONE. :D
And nature has no time or interest in BLM, or MSNBS, etc. Hey, do keep in mind that if life were free of humans, it would be all too boring. :D
Instead of fighting about Red or Blue, Dem or Rep, one religion v another, one nation v. another, humanity would be better off trying to figure out how to survive a massive meteor when it hits our planet, terra forming other planets, etc., etc., etc. And, that does not even include the current human impacting problems on this very planet.
I have to admit I find it somewhat amusing to see things like an atheist storm in to squash the creationists only to get squashed by an atheist that has at least bothered to explore the issues.
Most of them worship science and don't believe in anything outside of it and fail to understand its basic function. In philosophy and confronting reality science is merely a set of processes that extracts a subset of what we can possible know or be sure about. In effect it is the selection of the easiest problems.
Scientists like that because it makes them feel powerful, problems they can beat, enemies they can beat. They don't like to believe there's anything beyond that.
Things like religion and philosophy tackles harder questions often which may be impossible to answer or to know if it's the right answer.
Science offers questions where there is a process that can return your paper and give a green or a red tick. Science will mark your test for you. To people who worship science today if you can't see it with science or the question can't be marked then it doesn't exist.
Religion can have the problem of that all the answers to sometimes impossible questions are guesses, it's highly creative, filling the void with whatever you like because well, you can when it comes to mysteries.
IMO, exploration is primeordial. We are here not to merely exist but to experience this reality, to enjoy, to learn, to grow, etc. Far too many get caught up with being right, they have to be right, as though that was ultimately the most important issue.
Science has started to come around, whereby they actually confirm when they simply just do not know, or do not have the answer, and that is just fine. Worshiping anything blindly, be it science or anything else is foolhardy. I adhere to the theme of St. Thomas who had to touch, had to see, had to confirm before he believed his Messiah.
I don't agree that religion simply offers guesses, creative or otherwise when it comes to problems or issues that are not quite understood by science, or man, just yet. To me, this only proves how much more humanity has to go before we are ready for ascension, if that is what is truly in our future. Just look back and gauge where man was in the 1,500 as compared to where we are now. In fact, in cosmic time, man has overachieved dramatically in only 500, 400 or the past 200 years.
Religion can necessarily only offer guesses in these matters. When it comes to the unknowable that's all anything can offer. If that is not the case then it falls under the domain of knowledge or science. Science does not deal with the unknowable because nothing can.
When you have questions and answers the point of science is to be able to not only offer answers which would be guesses initially but also identify correct answers leaving you with knowledge rather than belief which is in the domain of religion.
If people understood the relationship between science and religion better both of which should fall under philosophy then science would make religion better by reducing the scope of belief to only those things which you can't know so you're not left guessing when you don't have to, only when you have to.
Science is worse than it has been for a long time in many respects. Culturally it has massively degraded. People treat it like a religion and in many respects it's now science in name only. One of the worse cases you can get is when you mistake believing something for knowing something.
The institutes of science cannot be trusted. Science does not take precedence and yet they are the authority on knowledge. Look at what they have done to the world. They screwed up and released a virus causing a pandemic. If you look at all their denials none of it is scientific. They're using authority, not science to protect their reputation and preserve public faith in their creed. While science is great you cannot separate it from the man. A person is always a person before they are a scientist.
The culture of science is moribund. You should see what people wrote two to three thousand years ago or what they were talking about in Greece. People today have no idea what science is yet still claim to follow it.
IMO, while I respect your take on religion vs science I happen to believe that it is too severe and less than complete. I say this because all too often, science, which is supposed to be 100% correct, when faced with overwhelming fact has had to eat their own words. I need not remind you that science in Galileo's time truly believed, truly professed that the Earth was the center of the universe. Science develops, it is not a guarantee, nor the final answer to everything and anything and it eventually, per the scientific method gets the right answer. Religion, as professed by the Bible, never mind corrupt Rome, or other man controlled outlets, goes beyond that because it speaks to faith, it tries to address our souls, and does not neglect our humanity. Science is about the nuts and bolts, religion is all about the spirit. Truth lives in the spirit, not in science. Science in this sense only serves to confirm the truth, once it has been solved for.
Again, IMO, religion is NOT all about guesses as you state. But to many, or the uninformed that is precisely how it is perceived or perhaps misunderstood. I see it as a faith of things we cannot understand, but that in time will be proven out, as needed, by science.
The elephant in the room that you do not address is nothing other than finance. No not just economics, but the control, the matrix that revolves around owning humanity via a paycheck or actual money. There are very select, and very specific people that have this power and control over all things human. And, it is these bastards that have corrupted science, and the media and just about everything they touch including medicine. I am referring to the global banking lords that mostly live in the old continent, hiding in plain sight, while their puppets like BiXin, the criminal Bush clan, Cameltoe, and Feinstein, etc., move or dance to their music.
It was NOT science that released this virus. It is and was a planned event to depopulate and control the world such that they can have their planned RESET. What is the reset about? It is fully about finances and money. Their old fiat system of control has failed and this is what is actually moribund, not science and not anything else.
This select group is what I call the black hand of evil that ruins everything on this planet. It is fully infantile to speak about science and religion, and all else all the while fully ignoring or dismissing the miserable criminals that pulls the strings in ways always vicious and never in the best interests of humanity. Suffice to say that all one has to do is look to Britain, to the old City of London to find so much sick, murderous, and illegal activities all of which seek to destroy humanity for their benefit. The evil triad stands today fully prepared to continue the destruction. They give their puppets nice titles like Minister this, or Counselor that, or maybe even Secretary of State. Refer to war criminal Henry Kissinger. :D
So tell me, why do most scientist deny, refuse to accept, and never want to talk about the fact that relics on this planet remain that specifically point out civilizations that lived on this planet, many thousands of years ago. Why is that? Yeah, let's talk about science, but first let's talk about the power and control matrix that permeates this existence. Suffice to say that we are NOT alone, we have never been ALONE. :D