Free speech does have limits. Knowles puts it in a great way when he talks about the issue.
Transgenderism, for example. As a society, we should not allow such an idea to be permissible. People who promote transgenderism should be shunned. This would be putting a limit on free speech by punishing people for freely speaking retarded ideas.
And on a side note, there's the whole shouting fire in a movie theater thing, but I don't know much about that argument or it's validity, if it has any.
How has laughing at these freaks been working out for us so far?
They stole an election, and we meme.
They destroyed our economy, locked us in our homes, and subjected us to forced mask wearing like women in saudi arabia and we meme.
They censor and silence us on the public forum, and we meme.
We laugh and laugh, make youtube videos mocking them, post dank spicy memes, and they still destroy our jobs, steal our money, burn our homes and businesses down, murder us, arrest us for defending ourselves, allow thousands of illegals to storm our borders, and brainwash our kids...
And we laugh and laugh because it's all so funny.
How's that working out for us?
Yes. Free speech isn't free. There are limits. Sometimes an asshole just has to be shut up by force. Otherwise you end up in a degenerate society like ours.
Yea laughing at them and socially ostracizing them is what I’m talking about.
I’m not saying censor people, but make it unfavorable to hold certain beliefs, because certain beliefs should not be tolerated by a civil society (like trans, marxism)
The problem conservatives have is that for decades we did not fight back against stupid and marxist ideas. Now we are paying the price.
In that sense, free speech does have limits because society chooses to apply limits. You have to apply limits in order to survive as a society. Unless you want tranny marxists censoring us like they are right now.
No where in that text does it say they support Trump. Don't believe the hype of protonmail. They don't support actual end-to-end encryption and they provide data to the feds. I wouldn't be surprised if they provided info about the January 6th trump supporters. Fuck protonmail
Correct, an attacker could pass off a false web page masquerading as protonmail, which you would then enter your password into. Highly unlikely you would be targeted this way unless you were literally planning the next Boston bombing and this fact was known. The emails are encrypted and unable to be accessed by anyone without your password. ProtonMail can share metadata with NSA, but not actual email contents. You're right, they didn't specifically say "We love the Donald!!", but they are at present the only tech company I've seen take a stand against deplatforming, and not hearing any better recommendations.. I'll stick with Proton
Yeah, this just seems 'off' in some fashion. Realize companies and organizations DO pay people to go through countless forums and post stuff just like this. Bill Gates has been doing it since the nineties. (I have a proton account btw.)
Protonmail may be a CIA/NSA honeypot, but at least it doesn't have antifa member employees going through your messages, ip addresses, and history like reddit, gmail, fb, and others.
Same people saying protonmail is a honeypot are google's shill bitches. they aggressively descended on this thread. (and by they I mean one basement loser with numerous alt accounts.)
Buying your own domain name, running your own server, maintaining uptime so emails aren't lost during power or internet outages because intermediate servers only retry them for hours now, finding a google insider to whitelist your server so you can actually send to people on gmail, generating a pgp key and distributing it to your contacts, getting them to install and use email client instead of webmail and adding enigmail extension to it.
...or you could pick the best of the bad choices. Right now that's Proton or Mullvad for VPN, even though they are run by people who would censor if they could get away with it.
Go yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and then tell me that free speech has limits.
Free speech has consequences. There's your limits!
Oh, and try telling me that I have to suck tranny cock or else I'm transphobe, and then try to force me to by law and I'll be certain to explain to you exactly where your rhetoric encountered its limits with a 45acp to your skull.
I think that Proton is simply hands-off and in favor of free speech rather than pro-Trump and I prefer this. I am pro-Trump, but my mail client I want to be neutral/unspoken on any issue other than the efficiency and privacy of their service.
Kind of like how everyone went to Signal and then there’s Jack Fuckface Dorseys commie mug plastered on the home page of the Signal website. We are truly like sheep, corralled wherever they need us to go by our predictable emotions.
Only speaking facts. You’re likely here shilling on behalf of ProtonMail as a paid advocate. I’m not even saying anything against ProtonMail, I’m only saying our side can be easily manipulated by our passion... but sometimes we need better vetting than reading into a ProtonMail blurb that it’s talking about Trump when his name is never mentioned. Further the same blurb says there are limits to free speech. Even if so, adding that in your same spill about being the alternative to other providers is garbage marketing.
Man, google has hired a shiton of shill monkeys to bash protonmail for them.
This is what we're up against, people. Armies of paid agitators and corporate shills comprised of sick malcontents willing to do the bidding of corporate overlords for peanuts.
Haha yeah. I logged into my email this morning, thought this was cool and wanted to share, then I get accused of shilling. Yet those doing the accusing are the lazy mofos who won't spend a couple hours to stand against everything they've been bitching about the last months. No principles in these people.
Go yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and then tell me that free speech has limits.
Free speech has consequences. There's your limits!
Oh, and try telling me that I have to suck tranny cock or else I'm transphobe, and then try to force me to by law and I'll be certain to explain to you exactly where your rhetoric encountered its limits with a 45acp to your skull.
Maybe they don’t support Trump, and that’s ok. The fact that they wouldn’t consider deplatforming makes me a proud customer of theirs. The “limits on free speech” thing makes me raise an eyebrow, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they mean conspiring to commit violence.
Decidedly not based.
Red flag. Anyone that says "free speech has limits" is really saying "if you don't conform we're okay with silencing you"
Free speech does have limits. Knowles puts it in a great way when he talks about the issue.
Transgenderism, for example. As a society, we should not allow such an idea to be permissible. People who promote transgenderism should be shunned. This would be putting a limit on free speech by punishing people for freely speaking retarded ideas.
And on a side note, there's the whole shouting fire in a movie theater thing, but I don't know much about that argument or it's validity, if it has any.
Okay I'll promote trans issues then and you can come to my house and make me stop. How's that sound?
You don't have the moral authority to tell anyone what to think and therefore say.
I would have the right to limit your access to resources I control and social groups I’m a part of though.
It has no limits. Because we the majority laugh at them instead of supporting them. And being silent
How has laughing at these freaks been working out for us so far?
They stole an election, and we meme.
They destroyed our economy, locked us in our homes, and subjected us to forced mask wearing like women in saudi arabia and we meme.
They censor and silence us on the public forum, and we meme.
We laugh and laugh, make youtube videos mocking them, post dank spicy memes, and they still destroy our jobs, steal our money, burn our homes and businesses down, murder us, arrest us for defending ourselves, allow thousands of illegals to storm our borders, and brainwash our kids...
And we laugh and laugh because it's all so funny.
How's that working out for us?
Yes. Free speech isn't free. There are limits. Sometimes an asshole just has to be shut up by force. Otherwise you end up in a degenerate society like ours.
Yea laughing at them and socially ostracizing them is what I’m talking about.
I’m not saying censor people, but make it unfavorable to hold certain beliefs, because certain beliefs should not be tolerated by a civil society (like trans, marxism)
The problem conservatives have is that for decades we did not fight back against stupid and marxist ideas. Now we are paying the price.
In that sense, free speech does have limits because society chooses to apply limits. You have to apply limits in order to survive as a society. Unless you want tranny marxists censoring us like they are right now.
Nonsense. Discussion of transgenderism must be allowed and encouraged.
Criticism of transgenderism must also be allowed and encouraged.
Sure, I’m fine with that.
If at the same time we ban sex change operations completely, nationwide. Let’s put the argument on our terms, not theirs.
Knowles...
There's your problem right there. Time to graduate to Klavan.
No where in that text does it say they support Trump. Don't believe the hype of protonmail. They don't support actual end-to-end encryption and they provide data to the feds. I wouldn't be surprised if they provided info about the January 6th trump supporters. Fuck protonmail
https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/
Correct, an attacker could pass off a false web page masquerading as protonmail, which you would then enter your password into. Highly unlikely you would be targeted this way unless you were literally planning the next Boston bombing and this fact was known. The emails are encrypted and unable to be accessed by anyone without your password. ProtonMail can share metadata with NSA, but not actual email contents. You're right, they didn't specifically say "We love the Donald!!", but they are at present the only tech company I've seen take a stand against deplatforming, and not hearing any better recommendations.. I'll stick with Proton
Honeypot?
Yeah, this just seems 'off' in some fashion. Realize companies and organizations DO pay people to go through countless forums and post stuff just like this. Bill Gates has been doing it since the nineties. (I have a proton account btw.)
Then get off the internet. GET OFF THIS SITE. By your dumbass logic, patriots.win is a honeypot too.
Take your delusions elsewhere. Dipshits like you drooling tards are the reason our side DOES NOTHING.
A while back ProtonMail released the emails for some of the Jan 6 protestors to the CIA and FBI.
Do NOT trust proton mail, you'd actually be walking into a honeypot
Do you happen to have the sauce on this? Searching is a dead end of course.
Protonmail may be a CIA/NSA honeypot, but at least it doesn't have antifa member employees going through your messages, ip addresses, and history like reddit, gmail, fb, and others.
Proton mail is shit, they comply with government requests
so you guys gonna give alternatives or? lmao better than gmail until someone actually provides a based alternative.
Zohomail is a great, mainstream, Google alternative imo.
Found the fucking idiot shill faggot here folks
Ya'all keep using gmail, yahoo or any other. I've been on proton for a couple of years.
Same people saying Protonmail is a honeypot use Gmail themselves.
Tell me, what's better than Protonmail?
Same people saying protonmail is a honeypot are google's shill bitches. they aggressively descended on this thread. (and by they I mean one basement loser with numerous alt accounts.)
Buying your own domain name, running your own server, maintaining uptime so emails aren't lost during power or internet outages because intermediate servers only retry them for hours now, finding a google insider to whitelist your server so you can actually send to people on gmail, generating a pgp key and distributing it to your contacts, getting them to install and use email client instead of webmail and adding enigmail extension to it.
...or you could pick the best of the bad choices. Right now that's Proton or Mullvad for VPN, even though they are run by people who would censor if they could get away with it.
Email
Messengers
Underrated comment. This is a good list fren.
Oh, free speech has limits? I guess you'll just have to wait for proton to tell you when you've reached them. Fuck this faggot company.
Go yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and then tell me that free speech has limits.
Free speech has consequences. There's your limits!
Oh, and try telling me that I have to suck tranny cock or else I'm transphobe, and then try to force me to by law and I'll be certain to explain to you exactly where your rhetoric encountered its limits with a 45acp to your skull.
I think that Proton is simply hands-off and in favor of free speech rather than pro-Trump and I prefer this. I am pro-Trump, but my mail client I want to be neutral/unspoken on any issue other than the efficiency and privacy of their service.
Free speech has no limits boi
Kind of like how everyone went to Signal and then there’s Jack Fuckface Dorseys commie mug plastered on the home page of the Signal website. We are truly like sheep, corralled wherever they need us to go by our predictable emotions.
false equivalency
fuck, sometimes "our side" can be as dumb as the dumbest leftist.
Although it's more likely you're one of google's shill minions.
Shut the fuck up bitch
Says the one still stuck on gmail.
Only speaking facts. You’re likely here shilling on behalf of ProtonMail as a paid advocate. I’m not even saying anything against ProtonMail, I’m only saying our side can be easily manipulated by our passion... but sometimes we need better vetting than reading into a ProtonMail blurb that it’s talking about Trump when his name is never mentioned. Further the same blurb says there are limits to free speech. Even if so, adding that in your same spill about being the alternative to other providers is garbage marketing.
His name is literally mentioned. The fact that you can't even read 3 paragraphs shows you did zero research into the security of Proton.
Man, google has hired a shiton of shill monkeys to bash protonmail for them.
This is what we're up against, people. Armies of paid agitators and corporate shills comprised of sick malcontents willing to do the bidding of corporate overlords for peanuts.
Haha yeah. I logged into my email this morning, thought this was cool and wanted to share, then I get accused of shilling. Yet those doing the accusing are the lazy mofos who won't spend a couple hours to stand against everything they've been bitching about the last months. No principles in these people.
Well this sure is a bullshit post.
Yeah I completely disagree with them saying "even free speech has limits" - the fuck it does you commie.
Go yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and then tell me that free speech has limits.
Free speech has consequences. There's your limits!
Oh, and try telling me that I have to suck tranny cock or else I'm transphobe, and then try to force me to by law and I'll be certain to explain to you exactly where your rhetoric encountered its limits with a 45acp to your skull.
Swing and a miss.
Maybe they don’t support Trump, and that’s ok. The fact that they wouldn’t consider deplatforming makes me a proud customer of theirs. The “limits on free speech” thing makes me raise an eyebrow, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they mean conspiring to commit violence.
Protonmail is a honeypot. Just learn pgp people.
I have used it exclusively since I joined a couple of months ago. I LOVE IT!
Where does it say they support president Trump?
Nowhere. The post headline is pure deception.
Too much money for me.
they have free accounts bruh
You can only have one free account at a time. They will ban you if you have more than one. Just so you know.
People, there is no excuse for not using Protonmail.
If you're still using gmail, yahoo YOU ARE THE ENEMY!