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tabularasa_556 8 points ago +8 / -0

More importantly they had leadership. We have no Washington, haven't had anything close for the entirety of my lifetime. Can only imagine what would have happened if instead of condemning clueless boomers to wander around the capitol with a vague tweet and then act like it was some terrible act, Trump had instead explicitly said grab your guns, it's time for the boogaloo.

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BeardedNinjaPede 6 points ago +6 / -0

Trump was the Washington of or time and he failed. Now we get a boot stomping on our face for the rest of our lives.

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ObamasLooseButthole 5 points ago +5 / -0

Trump wasn’t the Washington of our time. If he was then we wouldn’t be where we are now.

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tabularasa_556 4 points ago +4 / -0

A modern Washington wouldn't have banned bumpstocks let alone allowed an election to be stolen from him. If Trump was the best we have, we were doomed from the start.

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JesusWept 3 points ago +3 / -0

Washington was the greatest of leaders, but he was ONLY able to lead us to action because we had several dozen brave and rebellious men in our legislature who raised money, and trained and supplied a regular army. They also declared war on the king and forced the 2/3rds of the population who were not engaged to come along for the ride.

If Paine, Jefferson and Madison had been leading a cabal to undermine Washington and secretly meeting with our enemies Wahington would have "failed."

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BeardedNinjaPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough. Thanks.

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JesusWept 1 point ago +1 / -0

Washington was the greatest of leaders, but he was ONLY able to lead us to action because we had several dozen brave and rebellious men in our legislature who raised money, and trained and supplied a regular army. They also declared war on the king and forced the 2/3rds of the population who were not engaged to come along for the ride.

If Paine, Jefferson and Madison had been leading a cabal to undermine Washington and secretly meeting with our enemies Wahington would have "failed."