all off? What the heck are you talking about, i listened to his testimony and thats where the numbers came from. It would be better if you were not so critical of every little thing..
The numbers are more like 8 years as a detective out of a 39 year career in law enforcement. With the most recent 10+ year string being involved every time anyone gets hurt or killed when someone is taken into custody, or fails trying. Meaning he's been personally involved with more such cases than any cop on the street, and responsible for all of them in his precinct in terms of supervision and training.
Quite different from what people here are saying.
Downvotes mean people are misinformed, biased to the point of being impervious to fact, or something; none of which is good.
We'll need to keep our mental faculties and stick together if we're to have any hope through the bs that's coming. And I mean WAY past this trial ...
36 years ago was 1985, he was a LEO prior to that outside of Minnedishu. As LT he works "critical cases," which involve lots more than homicide. This was classified as a critical case that night, and he handed it. Nobody has to die for a case to be considered "critical," any injury to either perp or Officer counts.
He testified about all this under cross- examination. Did he lie?
Sgt that is direct supervisor over Chauvin also testified about handing the case and scene off directly to this guy. (Or off to the Sgt on "mid-shift," who handed it off to this guy) We see that on video. Mid-shift Sgt also testified and confirms all this.
Why do the records not agree with the testimony? I'm next door in WI.
He does not teach self defense or use of force, and it took defense to bring that out in Court. He's a student in these classes, just like every other Officer. This is the only thing that the info agrees about. What sort of shenanigans are going on? This is why discussion is good; if the expected corruption and injustice happens, it may be done in little details like this.
Hopefully everything this LT said gets thrown out for lying about "the maximal restraint," and Chauvin's knee being lethal force. I am curious if experts confirm his stated idea about being prone with your hands handcuffed behind your back making it doubly hard to breathe.
Another thing I want to watch for is the idea of the cops starting CPR, 4:44 before paramedics arrived being an ideal time. You flip a perp onto their back to start chest compressions. With their hands handcuffed behind their back? Seems like that could get in the way, and possibly cause injury to shoulders, elbows, wrists? Taking the cuffs off seems like an unreasonable risk.
I think the states case against him was flawed from the get go, and they are putting together a real "loose" prosecution. They have not tied all the ends, so to speak.
Zimmerman is only a good witness in that he is a homicide investigator. His job was made easy by the body cam. Of course anyone who sees that video and is investigating the death, is going to point their finger toward Chauvin. Toxicology is just as damning in my view. The states witness testimony from him, did not show his expertise in terms of excessive force. The defense jumped on that.
The perspective that loses me is that, like politics, not every thing is in the light like you would expect it to be. Prosecution will utilize him as a witness for what its worth. Until cross examination, the witnesses dont hear the part they need to. However, this may take the opposite effect. It reminds me of a good car salesman that has a sale, but then drops "engine trouble." Your sold until you hear that one word or phrase. I believe this to be the case in this trial.
all off? What the heck are you talking about, i listened to his testimony and thats where the numbers came from. It would be better if you were not so critical of every little thing..
Do your down votes tell you anything?
The numbers are more like 8 years as a detective out of a 39 year career in law enforcement. With the most recent 10+ year string being involved every time anyone gets hurt or killed when someone is taken into custody, or fails trying. Meaning he's been personally involved with more such cases than any cop on the street, and responsible for all of them in his precinct in terms of supervision and training.
Quite different from what people here are saying.
Downvotes mean people are misinformed, biased to the point of being impervious to fact, or something; none of which is good.
We'll need to keep our mental faculties and stick together if we're to have any hope through the bs that's coming. And I mean WAY past this trial ...
-36 year career
-has worked strictly homicide cases for last 26 years
-gets called in, ONLY if there is a homicide. Including when officers are involved.
-He is the lead Homicide investigator, supervises other homicide officers.
-is not the direct supervisor over Chauvin
-is not responsible for training of any defensive tactics
-he may have experience with homicide investigations, but not specifically patrol arrests since 1990s
Thats all i can confirm from his testimony transcript and local news agencies here in Minnesota. Do you reside in Minnesota?
36 years ago was 1985, he was a LEO prior to that outside of Minnedishu. As LT he works "critical cases," which involve lots more than homicide. This was classified as a critical case that night, and he handed it. Nobody has to die for a case to be considered "critical," any injury to either perp or Officer counts.
He testified about all this under cross- examination. Did he lie?
Sgt that is direct supervisor over Chauvin also testified about handing the case and scene off directly to this guy. (Or off to the Sgt on "mid-shift," who handed it off to this guy) We see that on video. Mid-shift Sgt also testified and confirms all this.
Why do the records not agree with the testimony? I'm next door in WI.
He does not teach self defense or use of force, and it took defense to bring that out in Court. He's a student in these classes, just like every other Officer. This is the only thing that the info agrees about. What sort of shenanigans are going on? This is why discussion is good; if the expected corruption and injustice happens, it may be done in little details like this.
Hopefully everything this LT said gets thrown out for lying about "the maximal restraint," and Chauvin's knee being lethal force. I am curious if experts confirm his stated idea about being prone with your hands handcuffed behind your back making it doubly hard to breathe.
Another thing I want to watch for is the idea of the cops starting CPR, 4:44 before paramedics arrived being an ideal time. You flip a perp onto their back to start chest compressions. With their hands handcuffed behind their back? Seems like that could get in the way, and possibly cause injury to shoulders, elbows, wrists? Taking the cuffs off seems like an unreasonable risk.
I'll watch to see if anybody goes there.
I think the states case against him was flawed from the get go, and they are putting together a real "loose" prosecution. They have not tied all the ends, so to speak.
Zimmerman is only a good witness in that he is a homicide investigator. His job was made easy by the body cam. Of course anyone who sees that video and is investigating the death, is going to point their finger toward Chauvin. Toxicology is just as damning in my view. The states witness testimony from him, did not show his expertise in terms of excessive force. The defense jumped on that.
The perspective that loses me is that, like politics, not every thing is in the light like you would expect it to be. Prosecution will utilize him as a witness for what its worth. Until cross examination, the witnesses dont hear the part they need to. However, this may take the opposite effect. It reminds me of a good car salesman that has a sale, but then drops "engine trouble." Your sold until you hear that one word or phrase. I believe this to be the case in this trial.
Not Guilty!