Just wondering , not trolling , a former jew myself. I’m watching a documentary on Netflix called the accountant of auschwitz and they mentioned right wing holocaust deniers.. I’ve seen SOME anti semitism on this site but don’t give a fuck cause it’s the internet. But also just wondering why one would deny the Holocaust ? Can anybody speak on their argument ? Seems absurd to me but always down to listen
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No it isn’t dude look at my post history
A more important issue is that other mass murders have a bigger body count (Soviet Union, China), but aren't mentioned at all.
The Jewish narrative won't allow that. They're special.
Nope don't deny the holocaust existed. Am half German. Totally disavow Hitler and all his regime did. Thing is, Hitler was left wing. They can scream "but muh fascism" all they want but Hitler was a Socialist. They weren't "Nationalists', they were National Socialists. Hitler believed in big government, national Healthcare, free gibs for "his people".
Seems some people in the comments are saying the amount of Jews killed is in question as being lower . I mean if it’s 10% wrong on the number it’s still 5.4 million Jews killed, which is a TON. Also some say other crimes against humanity don’t get talked about enough but I don’t think that’s a good argument to discredit the holocaust
Now is a good time to remember that these atrocities can occur, the Nuremberg trials, the suffering of the victims & their relatives, the punishment of the evil doers & the guilt of their relatives & descendants, now is a good time to remember that the Powers in Heaven can see all deeds hidden, that evil these things may NEVER occur in our world!
I have a Jewish father and it took me 30 years before I actually looked into it. It's not that it didn't happen, it's just unlikely 6 million were killed due to the way creamation works. Like NY had problems getting rid of bodies of COVID victims but Germany got rid of more? Or Anne Frank went to a hospital at one point, which is weird if your in a death camp. Just some inconsistencies. Also I have heard the showers were to kill lice that prisoners carried. It would be considered a hoax same as COVID is a hoax.
I went down this rabbit hole years ago. There’s no doubt a lot of Jews were killed either outright or worked to death in camps. The gas chamber stories are where the problem is. The numbers don’t add up. Zyklon residue was not found on the walls in the gas chambers in significant enough amounts for all of the gassing that would have been done. The buildings weren’t properly sealed to prevent gas from escaping. The door opened in to the gas chambers instead of out which would be a problem if there are a bunch of bodies piled up inside.
Typhus was supposibly very bad, so I heard this as well. And hence why they shaved everyone's heads. I've also seen things regarding the Stalin's military torturing, raping, and killing germans...even ones that weren't part of the Nazis. But the US sided with Stalin? And FDR was president then too? He did a lot of bad shit, and was progressive. So it leads me to be skeptical of what we're told. I definitely think something horrible went down, but will we ever know the truth? Nope, never. There's just a lot of holes, especially regarding why everything went down like they said it did. I tried looking into this but it's all a bit murky. I've watched and read a few things that paint a completely opposite picture, so I'm not sure. I just know the government is a lying piece of shit, and we get into a lot of pointless wars. Who's to say we didn't do that here? Apparently Germany still hasn't finished paying reparations for that war either I think? WWI was finish in 2010 I believe.
Looking into the Weimar republic was eye opening too.
Anne Frank wasn’t in a death camp she was in an attic hide space thing, what are you referencing ?
Oh yeah I guess that's true. There's a rumor that her dad wrote the book when she was in the hospital, so the diary aspect is a lie. I'm just sharing what I've heard about the Holocaust hoax theory.
Hi Rabbi
Huh ? Second person to say this- is that a YouTube guy ?
Wait what was the Holocaust?
are you a president biden denier? or an anti-vaxxer? are you a qfag? are you a 911 truther?
Biden denier and anti vax as well as anti Fauci and don’t know enough on 911
Why was I downvoted ?
Just remember a Holocaust denier is what the government says it is ,having said that my Father actually saw Jew's being killed in Poland ,and the earth moving in waves day's after the ditch was filled in from the gasses of decomposition ,so I have no doubt many tens of thousands were systematically murdered , whether millions were murdered on an industrial scale in places like Auschwitz ,jews turned into soap and had thier skin removed to make lamp shades ,we now know those were highly exaggerated propaganda , disseminated by the victors for political gain .so the answer is not really a Holocaust denier.
What do you mean the earth moving in waves? Also, This documentary showed the German soldier giving an account of how they found a crying baby in a suitcase and his buddy took it and smashed it against an iron door and the crying stopped. That sounds pretty extreme and there’s no reason to testify against yourself with something like that So I’m sure some horrible things happened
Well he (my father) means the earth moving up and down as gasses build up and then release ,bit like old faithful .I have no reason to doubt my father's account 🤔
Oh I see what you’re saying about the gasses now - geez I can’t believe I couldn’t understand something on the internet lol. Yeah some people here too are saying the crematoriums couldn’t burn all the people they claimed to burn .. one guy said they could burn 20 people a day and Wikipedia says 8000
Auschwitz revised the numbers in the 90s down by a lot, yet the 6 million number still stands. How?
Because they lie.
The Jewish controlled media is lying to us!? The Hell you say!
It's called the shoa buisness , there's a ulterior motive for maintaining the 6 million figure . That includes 10's of thousands killed by allied bombing raids .
The number actually existed BEFORE the "Holocaust" but we all know they are psychic. We are mere anti-semites if me mention how many Christians were murdered by Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia.
Yes I heard about the six million from the first world war too ,so it seem to be a agreed figure to use ,that is very difficult to quantify an any meaningful way .
Not a denier but this is something I have been reading a lot about. It appears that Jewish media was pushing homosexuality, transgender and birth control. On top of massive money printing. You have to be careful as victim shaming is rampant with people who hate Jews. I would also bet Jews were aligned with socialists. Hitler rose to power to combat perversion and socialism. If you look up sexuality and Weimar you can get a better grasp on the history. Genocide is never than answer but I feel there is much more I have not read.
The nazis were national socialists ? Why would the Jews be associated with them ? They were probably associated with the communists since hitler didn’t like them (which is in line with them fighting against us them in WW2)
I mean the communist's but they are two sides of the same coin. I think communists are globalists and NAZI's were nationalists and both are socialists.
You seem like an Apt Pupil.
What’s that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt_Pupil
Absolutely! I gladly deny the holohoax. And just as a preface- I don't hate Jews.
First some background info on what and why.
Holocaust means "burnt offering" and it is prophesied in orthodox Judaism that 6 million must die in order for the Jews to return to the holy land. That's where this infatuation with the '6 million' figure originates from. And if you do some searching you will find plenty of newspaper references of "6 million" Jews dying, "holocaust" etc. long before World War 2.
Here are the basic arguments against the hoax:
#1) The "gas chambers" had no trace of cyanide in the walls.
Hydrocyanic acid or Zyklon B has been chemically proven to embed itself into concrete walls with sufficient exposure time. In the delousing chambers where it was used frequently, the walls were visibly blue. Upon testing, the walls of the supposed 'gas chambers' had no detectable trace of cyanide.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p319_Faurisson.html
#2) No mention of 'gas chambers' in the entirety of the three best known works on WW2.
"Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill's The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi "gas chambers," a "genocide" of the Jews, or of "six million" Jewish victims of the war."
#3) The International Red Cross lists the official death toll of the concentration camps at 271,301, mostly due to Typhus and starvation caused by Allied bombing of the supply lines:
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=499483&d=$attachment[dateline]
#4) The World Almanac cites the World Jewish Population as having increased between 1940 and 1947:
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359 World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000
The population of Jews living in countries pre-WW2 which would later be occupied by Germany was 2.9 million. The population of Jews living in countries occupied by Germany after WW2 was 2.4 million. In the same time period the population of Jews living in Palestine increased by 500,000. Where did the 6 million go?
#5) The Impossibility of cremating the amount of dead bodies claimed.
The Germans of World War II did not have modern crematoria and were dependent on the use of coal and a coal derivative known as coke to burn the bodies. This led to a much cooler temperature for incineration and therefore the average time for one human body to be destroyed was roughly 4-5 hours each.
Now we can do the real math concerning Auschwitz. The claim has been that that labor camp had 6 but some say 8 crematorium chambers for destroying bodies. If it takes 4-5 hours per body (lets say 4 hours) to incinerate one body, and lets say that there were 8 chambers. Then we have 6 bodies per day times 8 chambers running 24/7 nonstop (lets let the naysayers have their way here and not allow for down time for removal of residue and for maintenance of each chamber…).. then we have 48 bodies per day… And now we can take into account the time that Auschwitz was in "operation"… Some say approximately about 3.5 years maximum (mid 1941 when camp was supposedly put into operation to end of 1944 when the Soviets occupied that region of eastern Poland), and therefore the number of days is 3.5 years x 365 days x 8 crematoria x 6 bodies maximum and we achieve a figure of 61,320… and we can add one more day for 1944 being a leap year and we have 61,368.
This is the maximum possible for Auschwitz- a camp that lying propagandists want us to believe cremated 4.3 million bodies. Furthermore, there were very detailed aerial photographs taken of the camps during the war and nowhere to be seen was any sign of smoke from cremation, piles of Coke necessary to burn so many bodies, mass graves, or people lining up outside "gas chambers".
We are expected to believe that there was as much as 2000 tons of coke being used each day to cremate "millions" of bodies.
#6) The so called "testimonies" and evidence presented at the Nuremberg trial were coerced through torture and fabrication.
Former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss was tortured by British officials into signing a false and self-incriminating "confession" that has been widely cited as a key document of Holocaust extermination. His testimony before the Nuremberg Tribunal, a high point of the proceeding, was perhaps the most striking and memorable evidence presented there of a German extermination program. Höss maintained that two and half million people had been killed in Auschwitz gas chambers, and that another 500,000 inmates had died there of other causes. No serious or reputable historian now accepts either of these fantastic figures, and other key portions of Höss' "confession" are now generally acknowledged to be untrue.
Jupp Aschenbrenner, a Bavarian who was tortured into signing a statement that he had worked on mobile gas chambers ("gas vans") during the war. It wasn't until several years later that he was finally able to prove that he had actually spent that time in Munich studying to become an electric welder.
Fritz Sauckel, head of the German wartime labor mobilization program, was sentenced to death at the main Nuremberg trial. An important piece of evidence presented to the Tribunal by the US prosecution was an affidavit signed by the defendant. (Nuremberg document 3057-PS.) It turned out that Sauckel had put his signature to this self-incriminating statement, which had been presented to him by his captors in finished form, only after he was bluntly told that if he hesitated, his wife and children would be turned over to the Soviets. "I did not stop to consider, and thinking of my family, I signed the document,"
Sauckel later declared Hans Fritzsche, another defendant in the main Nuremberg trial, was similarly forced to sign a self-damning confession while he was a prisoner of the Soviet secret police in Moscow. (Nuremberg document USSR-474.) Although most of the defendants at the main Nuremberg trial were not tortured, many other Germans were forced to sign affidavits and give testimony against their former colleagues and superiors. A simple threat to turn the subject over to the Soviets was often enough to persuade him to sign an affidavit or provide testimony needed in court. Threats against the subject's wife and children, including withdrawal of ration cards, delivery to the Soviets or imprisonment, often quickly produced the desired results. If all else failed, the subject could be placed in solitary confinement, beaten, kicked, whipped or burned until he broke down.
The testimony of the prosecution's chief witness in the Nuremberg "Wilhelmstrasse" trial was obtained by threat of death. The American defense attorney, Warren Magee, had somehow obtained the transcript of the first pretrial interrogation of Friedrich Gaus, a former senior official in the German Foreign Office. Despite frantic protests by prosecuting attorney Robert Kempner, the judge decided to permit Magee to read from the document. During the pretrial interrogation session, Kempner told Gaus that he would be turned over to the Soviets for hanging. Tearfully pleading for mercy, Gaus begged Kempner to think of his wife and children. Kempner replied that he could save himself only by testifying in court against his former colleagues. A desperate Gaus, who had already endured four weeks in solitary confinement, agreed. When Magee finished reading from the damning transcript, Gaus sat with both hands to his face, totally devastated.
Read every single case study of the Nuremberg trials here http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html
#7) The "Diary of Anne Frank" as well as other published works of the Holocaust have been proven fakes.
For one, Anne Frank did not actually write her own Diary! In fact a New York supreme court ruled in favor of a $50,000 settlement from Otto Frank toward an American writer Meyer Levin for his work on the "Anne Frank" diary. Furthermore she supposedly "rewrote the diary" in 1945 with a ball-point pen when ball point pens didn't exist in 1945.
Another best-selling and 'official holocaust text', Polish Jerzy Kosinski's "The painted bird" was supposedly written in English to 'free him' of the restraints of his native language. Polish professor Pawel Dudziak labeled it a clear work of fiction.
Binjamin Wilkomirski's "Fragments" is yet another 'official holocaust text' proven to be a blatant fraud. He describes gentiles in Switzerland trying to kill him and his Jews. Switzerland was neutral during the war. Knowledgeable historians like Raul Hilberg early on pegged Fragments as a fraud. It was later proven that Wilkormirski spent the ENTIRE TIME in Switzerland and did not even SET FOOT in a work camp.
Yet another book supposedly written by a "Hungarian Doctor" visiting Auschwitz via train was proven to be a fraud when it was proven the train route from Hungary to Austria supposedly used didn't even exist. Why are so many fabricated written testimonies and documents necessary to keep the hoax of the holocaust in play?
In conclusion, the entire "Holocaust" was clearly a hoax contrived in order to further the illuminati zionist agenda and demonize Hitler for standing against them. Not a single Jew was killed in a gas chamber, nor was there ever a genocidal agenda.
This is a lot I’ll get to in the morning but the logic of your Auschwitz burning body count is flawed because you’re assuming a crematorium can only burn 1 person at a time. I’m willing to say without any research they could do 3-5 which means you’d have to multiply your number by 3-5 (I’m just being conservative ) and you’d get about a 240k to 300k number from Auschwitz burned bodies alone. Never mind buried bodies too. I gotta look into everything else though
Totally wrong. Cremation is a function of heat energy and time- mainly the time it takes to evaporate all the water in a human body. Throwing 5 bodies into a crematory oven will take 5 times as long as 1 body. In fact it will take even longer since it lowers the efficiency.
Ok just read the whole thing - great points but your final conclusion is a total giveaway man. NOBODY , not a single Jew does in the holocaust ? As joe Biden said, come on man
You missed the point entirely: there was no holocaust.
And the specific language I used was "gas chambers"- not a single Jew died from a gas chamber and it's the truth.
The numbers were never an issue with me. If there were lots of Jews Hitler would have rounded them up to keep them from siding with the soviets. How they died has always been my sticking point. We bombed their infrastructural ability to move food first thing. You can't feed people if you can't get food to them.
IF the Japs had invaded California, do you think we would have let the interned native Japanese go knowing many would side with their imperial brethren if we couldn't feed them? Nope. We would have held them and let them starve. I think that is what the Germans did.
They had the choice of letting the prisoners go, and then have them siding with us and the soviets, or hold them and let them starve. We did the same thing with war prisoners in Europe. When we couldn't feed them, they starved to death.
War is hell and most ethnicities don't mix.
I don’t deny that millions were killed on a mass scale and that around 6 millions of them were Jews. But given where Germany got to in just 20, 40, 60 years later, was it really such a bad thing? Maybe when the vaccines sterilize and kill billions that will be a good outcome.
Your account is 4 months old. And you haven't seen the Stormfags?
Stop using Antifa language.
It's Anaconda language.
He coined the term.
And it's referring to the online magazine Stormfront.
It's language used by Antifa. Antifa are our enemies. Stop using the term.
I'll stop using the term when people stop arguing that National Socialism is kinda nifty.
Dude I’m asking a genuine question not denying the holocaust .. trying to understand opposition you should try it
Then you're part of Antifa. That's fine. You're against free speech. You're the enemy. We get that. Please leave our movement. You aren't welcome.
You are going to find that at least 90 percent of Trump supporters want nothing to do with National Socialism.
That's a LOT of "Antifa" you have on your hands.
your right about the socialism
I never said they did. Quit using Antifa terms. People can talk about White identity and White pride and not be National Socialists. Get that right. White people can organize into White groups. That's not Nazi. Get it? Quit using Antifa terms. Quit thinking like a Leftist.
Yeah fuck this guy taxis
kek. Grow up.
Huh? Storm fags?
Mods call them Jewposters.
Mostly come on European times. Some clearly muslim.
Hahahahah it’s so funny I mean my blood is Jewish but I’m up way to late in New Hampshire .. not from Europe but he has every right to think based on what you said hahahaha
Hope not
The Bible says Israel was a man. The Talmud say Jesus is burning in red, hot excrement in Hell with his whore mother. What side are you on?
I believe Jesus is the messiah. Also the Talmud is man-made tradition that supersedes the word of God (aka the tanach in Judaism)
So you're against it?
I’m for the Bible against the Talmud
I have a Jewish father, so the orthodox Jews reject me but white supremacists also reject me lol I didn't use to have an issue with the Talmud but from what I've learned lately it has a lot of pedophilia bits.
the talmud isnt the word of God ist he thing the way the bible (aka the tanach/old testmanet) is... its trascribed traditions from their priests of recent history passed down. It has zero reverence but the Jewish community follows it- which is why their religion is dead as of now. Jesus spoke against man-made tradition taking place for the word of God and it applies to the Jews today
This post got like 80’commrnts but only 8 upvotes.
I’m going to Auschwitz to investigate myself and question everything and then I will report here what I find
Hi, rabbi. You can never be a former Jew. You'll always be a Jew to us.
Don’t call me rabbi for this is only one rabbi and that is God in heaven . You are right in saying I can never be a former Jew , but many people don’t know that because they aren’t educated on the subject . I tell people “my blood is Jewish”, because I believe the Passover lamb was A symbol for Jesus . But yeah, anyways I think this is a good thread regarding the holocaust
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You just justified the argument against 2 genders.
argue it all you like but it won't change the truth kek
Right.
So that's the point.
Someone meanders over to a pig farmer and tells them there's a rainbow of genders, the farmer's gonna look at the male whe creates sperm and the female who gives birth and tell them to shut the fuck up.
This isn't because he's covering up some sneaky lie.
It's because the rainbow xir is being retarded.
and the moral is don't be retarded
Right.
Like saying the Holocaust...aptly named or not...never happened.
Who cares if it did? We Whites are being targeted now. We don't have time to worry about some shit that happened over 75 years ago. Who gives a shit?
depends on what specifically is being debated. For instance just before the end of ww3 the allies stopped delivering red cross food shipments to the German prisons. The emaciated bodies that you see paraded around in museums are a product of the allies own creation.
Debating cause an effect within the Holocaust is different.
Flat out denying it is retarded.
The best thing to do is ask Jewish Investigators who have been there to the Camps w/special tour s there's a few of them. That will Answer the Matter for Good.
That's the last thing you want to do. They won't answer the truth.