The board's been overrun with the usual christian bullshit that has little to do with Trump and belongs over on c/christianity lately, for obvious reasons. You're also attributing secular Renaissance and Enlightenment values to protestants, which I find silly. You know what else protestants did? Witch burnings, slavery, mass-persecution. We didn't skyrocket literacy by praying. The Spanish Armada (why am I supposed to give a damn about this one anyway?) wasn't sunk and the world wasn't conquered by miracles. We didn't work out how to get to the Moon by reading a christian bible. Protestants are still the minority of christians today and now their countries are facing the same decadence Rome faced.
It's a big site. You're not contesting some hallowed ground in a fight with orcs, you're acting like a tool. I am about as big a critic of Islam as you'll find, but if there were some Muslims online encouraging one another in their taste coming up for Ramadan I wouldn't go to their thread and trash talk their faith. The impulse to attack the faith that has done more to invigorate the West and America on a patriotic forum...
I guess I am saying that you could ease up on your allies. But sometimes anger towards Christ actually comes before conversion...
It'd be like me filling the board with anime. Christian crap belongs on c/christianity, that's why it exists, and I'm more than happy to let that schizo circlejerk be. Religion divides, and if this becomes a religious movement I'm going to have to leave.
Man let people celebrate what their beliefs. I'm not a Christian either but alot of Americans are. It's a big part of our culture and it has the right to be celebrated here. Also we need to stick together regardless of our different beliefs. As it's clear we are the only friends we have in this political climate.
Should this place be turned into a place to talk about music, movies, tv shows, etc because they're a big part of our culture? And if it's just "beliefs", then do you have no issue with transgenderism? If MAGA becomes a religious movement it's going to lose.
FYI. The Protestant focus on everyone being literate so that everyone could read the Bible dovetailed with the advent of the printing press, which made Protestant societies far more literate than any other. It was Protestants who first pushed hardest for schools.
It was Protestants who staffed NASA and who made up the Mercury 7.
And you? You're a loathesome troll, who sees a post glorifying Christ on Easter, and decides to come in and troll the other users here about their 'Christian bullshit' to pick a fight like you do in seemingly every thread.
It's one thing to believe whatever twisted nihilism you cling to. It's quite another to ostentatiously seek out fights and troll others with your Freshman's grasp of history.
Just saw this response to the tired troll.... although I refuse to engage the troll if I ever did, it wouldn't match that epic schooling (raises glass of Covfefe) It was elite!!!
And it was muslims and hindus who invented a lot of the mathematics used for the moon landings, and I'd bet you'd find more than a few catholics and probably even atheists among the staff of NASA. Who is doing things doesn't matter. They didn't do these things because they were protestant (I hate to go full Godwin's Law, but Nazi Germany was largely protestant, after all, and while I'm there nazis are also pretty responsible for NASA), and it wasn't through protestantism that they accomplished them.
Actually, the heartland of National Socialism was in the Catholic south. Remember the Munich Putsch? It was the Prussian 'junkers'...the Protestant aristocracy that tried hardest to get rid of Hitler. Hitler himself was a product of deeply Catholic Austria.
This isn't an anti-Catholic point. Any reasonable person who isn't just pushing a partisan screed, knows that the whole Christians as Nazis thing is a tired smear. Both Nazism and Communism are fundamentally and gleefully godless. In fact, quite a few Catholic priests and youth group leaders were martyred during the era.
I could spend all day correcting your Freshman history. But I'm not going to give you anymore attention.
All that anyone needs to know about you, is that you like to troll Christians on this board. That you're the type of person who sees a post on Easter glorifying Christ, and has either such hate or arrogance, that you would crash it to troll your fellow users, pushing Freshman philosophies and bad history on them and complaining about 'christian bullshit'. To what effect?
You're not worth having a real conversation with. Maybe if you brought up these quaint points in a post dedicated to debate. I've only responded to you as much as I have, so the other users here could identify what you are, and to make it clear there's nothing you're saying which isn't like 40+ years out of date in the atheism bigotry cliche department (200+ in the case of Gibbons...lol. Gibbons is a fun read, but even by the mid 19th century he had been thoroughly deconstructed.)
Germany was and is still is overwhelmingly Christian, both Protestant and Catholic, and yes, the German scientists were largely responsible for the Moon landings.
The German people were very successful scientists and engineers BEFORE the Nazis came to power.
A large part of this success is due to the Christian work ethic.
For many of us, Trump’s greatness in his brave position to allow us all to feel free to say Merry Christmas. It’s not about those two words, it’s about never again will we allow anyone to tell us where and when to express our faith. So please don’t tell us where our posts should be made. And Happy Easter frens. Christ is risen.
Battle of Lepanto. Gates of Vienna. Don't be afraid to believe; don't be so shamed as to reject faith. Christ preached to publicans, he broke bread with harlots. Nothing you can do will stop him from loving you so much that he would die for you.
If you were in combat and a grenade landed in front of you and your buddy jumped on it, saving your mortal life would you say 'who cares, he chose to'. I doubt it, you do care and we both know that. If the situation were reversed, and you lived for brief moment and your friend just looked away while you died, would you think any less of him or would you only wish him the best life possible. I think we both know the answer to that.
How much more than does Christ? He chose to be the lamb, the final lamb - not for the righteous, but for the sinner. For you. You did not ask, and He does not care. His sacrifice was given regardless of your disposition.
Did reading the Bible get us to the moon? What did Niel Armstrong quote when he got there. You conflate the apparatus of Christianity with the philosophy of Christianity. What did Christ say before he ascended when the apostles asked him about creating the Earthly kingdom of Christ? He said it was up to them. It has always been humanities lot to improve itself, both materially and spiritually. One can be both an astrophysicist and a devout Catholic.
And what does all of this have to do with Trump? "You have no power except that which is given to you by the Father". But it is up to us as it was up to the Apostles to make it happen; through effort and faith.
Awfully hard for a guy who already died a couple thousand years ago to die for me. Or love me, for that matter. Any remains he'd have left wouldn't do much to stop a grenade, and it wouldn't be much of a cost (although I'd be strongly against disrespecting a body like that unless I had to), unlike what my buddy would b e doing. The biggest takeaway of the christian bible is essentially the Golden Rule, although that's entirely independent of christianity. One can be an astrophysicist and a christian, but it's not christianity they're relying on for their astrophysics. And that bible quote sounds like yet another one telling you to not give a shit about your life and accept authority because god put it there, because there'll definitely be a life after you die (with no evidence).
The Lord knew you before you were born, so yes, he could die for you and everyone else. He even died for those who came before his birth.
Just like your friend that jumped on the grenade, he sacrificed himself for your children yet born and their children and theirs as well.
But even beyond that, that is why the Holy sacrifice of the Eucharist. That is why Christ said "this is my body, this is my blood; eat my body and drink my blood". In Jewish tradition, a lamb would be sacrificed and then consumed for the reparation if sin. Christ was and is the lamb of God. For the sacrifice to be complete, the sacrifice must be consumed. In Jewish tradition, there were unbloody sacrifices which is the bread and wine of the Holy sacrifice of the Eucharist.
Not sure why an all-powerful all-merciful god would require a blood sacrifice to forgive when I'm more than capable of forgiving without the extra step, but ok.
The board's been overrun with the usual christian bullshit that has little to do with Trump and belongs over on c/christianity lately, for obvious reasons. You're also attributing secular Renaissance and Enlightenment values to protestants, which I find silly. You know what else protestants did? Witch burnings, slavery, mass-persecution. We didn't skyrocket literacy by praying. The Spanish Armada (why am I supposed to give a damn about this one anyway?) wasn't sunk and the world wasn't conquered by miracles. We didn't work out how to get to the Moon by reading a christian bible. Protestants are still the minority of christians today and now their countries are facing the same decadence Rome faced.
How dare people share joy on Easter morning!! Next thing you know they will celebrate Christmas! And some dare to call this year 2021!!!
Anno Domini 2021.
"In the year of the Lord" 2021.
Yes, our country's founding documents mention the date of the Lord's birth.
If it's celebrating the holiday, whatever, if it's preachy jesus shit I'm going to contest it.
It's a big site. You're not contesting some hallowed ground in a fight with orcs, you're acting like a tool. I am about as big a critic of Islam as you'll find, but if there were some Muslims online encouraging one another in their taste coming up for Ramadan I wouldn't go to their thread and trash talk their faith. The impulse to attack the faith that has done more to invigorate the West and America on a patriotic forum...
I guess I am saying that you could ease up on your allies. But sometimes anger towards Christ actually comes before conversion...
Well said!
It'd be like me filling the board with anime. Christian crap belongs on c/christianity, that's why it exists, and I'm more than happy to let that schizo circlejerk be. Religion divides, and if this becomes a religious movement I'm going to have to leave.
Man let people celebrate what their beliefs. I'm not a Christian either but alot of Americans are. It's a big part of our culture and it has the right to be celebrated here. Also we need to stick together regardless of our different beliefs. As it's clear we are the only friends we have in this political climate.
Should this place be turned into a place to talk about music, movies, tv shows, etc because they're a big part of our culture? And if it's just "beliefs", then do you have no issue with transgenderism? If MAGA becomes a religious movement it's going to lose.
Your faux intellectualism is simply breathtaking.
FYI. The Protestant focus on everyone being literate so that everyone could read the Bible dovetailed with the advent of the printing press, which made Protestant societies far more literate than any other. It was Protestants who first pushed hardest for schools.
https://brill.com/view/journals/coso/17/5/article-p641_6.xml?language=en
It was Protestants who staffed NASA and who made up the Mercury 7.
And you? You're a loathesome troll, who sees a post glorifying Christ on Easter, and decides to come in and troll the other users here about their 'Christian bullshit' to pick a fight like you do in seemingly every thread.
It's one thing to believe whatever twisted nihilism you cling to. It's quite another to ostentatiously seek out fights and troll others with your Freshman's grasp of history.
Just saw this response to the tired troll.... although I refuse to engage the troll if I ever did, it wouldn't match that epic schooling (raises glass of Covfefe) It was elite!!!
And it was muslims and hindus who invented a lot of the mathematics used for the moon landings, and I'd bet you'd find more than a few catholics and probably even atheists among the staff of NASA. Who is doing things doesn't matter. They didn't do these things because they were protestant (I hate to go full Godwin's Law, but Nazi Germany was largely protestant, after all, and while I'm there nazis are also pretty responsible for NASA), and it wasn't through protestantism that they accomplished them.
Actually, the heartland of National Socialism was in the Catholic south. Remember the Munich Putsch? It was the Prussian 'junkers'...the Protestant aristocracy that tried hardest to get rid of Hitler. Hitler himself was a product of deeply Catholic Austria.
This isn't an anti-Catholic point. Any reasonable person who isn't just pushing a partisan screed, knows that the whole Christians as Nazis thing is a tired smear. Both Nazism and Communism are fundamentally and gleefully godless. In fact, quite a few Catholic priests and youth group leaders were martyred during the era.
I could spend all day correcting your Freshman history. But I'm not going to give you anymore attention.
All that anyone needs to know about you, is that you like to troll Christians on this board. That you're the type of person who sees a post on Easter glorifying Christ, and has either such hate or arrogance, that you would crash it to troll your fellow users, pushing Freshman philosophies and bad history on them and complaining about 'christian bullshit'. To what effect?
You're not worth having a real conversation with. Maybe if you brought up these quaint points in a post dedicated to debate. I've only responded to you as much as I have, so the other users here could identify what you are, and to make it clear there's nothing you're saying which isn't like 40+ years out of date in the atheism bigotry cliche department (200+ in the case of Gibbons...lol. Gibbons is a fun read, but even by the mid 19th century he had been thoroughly deconstructed.)
Actually, the NSDAP had as much if not more support in the protestant north. I'm not saying the NSDAP itself was christian, but the overwhelming majority of Germany that went with them absolutely was. If you say "christ is king", then I say "sic semper tyrannis".
Germany was and is still is overwhelmingly Christian, both Protestant and Catholic, and yes, the German scientists were largely responsible for the Moon landings.
The German people were very successful scientists and engineers BEFORE the Nazis came to power.
A large part of this success is due to the Christian work ethic.
For many of us, Trump’s greatness in his brave position to allow us all to feel free to say Merry Christmas. It’s not about those two words, it’s about never again will we allow anyone to tell us where and when to express our faith. So please don’t tell us where our posts should be made. And Happy Easter frens. Christ is risen.
So I'm good to express my lack of faith wherever and whenever I want? Great. How long do you think I'd last on c/christianity doing that?
You're a faggot
You know what a shepherd does to sheep, right? Slaughters and eats them.
Battle of Lepanto. Gates of Vienna. Don't be afraid to believe; don't be so shamed as to reject faith. Christ preached to publicans, he broke bread with harlots. Nothing you can do will stop him from loving you so much that he would die for you.
If you were in combat and a grenade landed in front of you and your buddy jumped on it, saving your mortal life would you say 'who cares, he chose to'. I doubt it, you do care and we both know that. If the situation were reversed, and you lived for brief moment and your friend just looked away while you died, would you think any less of him or would you only wish him the best life possible. I think we both know the answer to that.
How much more than does Christ? He chose to be the lamb, the final lamb - not for the righteous, but for the sinner. For you. You did not ask, and He does not care. His sacrifice was given regardless of your disposition.
Did reading the Bible get us to the moon? What did Niel Armstrong quote when he got there. You conflate the apparatus of Christianity with the philosophy of Christianity. What did Christ say before he ascended when the apostles asked him about creating the Earthly kingdom of Christ? He said it was up to them. It has always been humanities lot to improve itself, both materially and spiritually. One can be both an astrophysicist and a devout Catholic.
And what does all of this have to do with Trump? "You have no power except that which is given to you by the Father". But it is up to us as it was up to the Apostles to make it happen; through effort and faith.
Awfully hard for a guy who already died a couple thousand years ago to die for me. Or love me, for that matter. Any remains he'd have left wouldn't do much to stop a grenade, and it wouldn't be much of a cost (although I'd be strongly against disrespecting a body like that unless I had to), unlike what my buddy would b e doing. The biggest takeaway of the christian bible is essentially the Golden Rule, although that's entirely independent of christianity. One can be an astrophysicist and a christian, but it's not christianity they're relying on for their astrophysics. And that bible quote sounds like yet another one telling you to not give a shit about your life and accept authority because god put it there, because there'll definitely be a life after you die (with no evidence).
The Lord knew you before you were born, so yes, he could die for you and everyone else. He even died for those who came before his birth.
Just like your friend that jumped on the grenade, he sacrificed himself for your children yet born and their children and theirs as well.
But even beyond that, that is why the Holy sacrifice of the Eucharist. That is why Christ said "this is my body, this is my blood; eat my body and drink my blood". In Jewish tradition, a lamb would be sacrificed and then consumed for the reparation if sin. Christ was and is the lamb of God. For the sacrifice to be complete, the sacrifice must be consumed. In Jewish tradition, there were unbloody sacrifices which is the bread and wine of the Holy sacrifice of the Eucharist.
Not sure why an all-powerful all-merciful god would require a blood sacrifice to forgive when I'm more than capable of forgiving without the extra step, but ok.