The Garden of Eden was not without labor. God instructed Adam to grow a farm and orchard. However it was without drought, disease, invaders, jealous neighbors, mortgages, guilt, blackmail, taxes, and death.
But Adam and Eve were not satisfied with what God had provided them, so they entertained sin. They were not satisfied with their farm, and they wanted to know what else they could get. They wanted innovation, and so they got obsolescence and rust. They wanted a kingdom, so they became enslaved and raised the kids of others. They wanted riches, and so they got debt, jealousy, theft, and rot. They wanted an enhanced life, and so they got disease, betrayal, and death.
If you doubt God, I encourage you to get to know God by reading the Bible.
If you reject God, I think it's wise to live the most hedonistic life you can afford to live. Get busy living or get busy dying. The faster you become buried in guilt, the faster you will seek Christ's redemption. The faster you become enslaved to addiction, employers, bankers, lovers, blackmailers, bullies, pride, and the government, the sooner you will plead for Christ to set you free. Try to prove me wrong ASAP. But know that you will have to face your slavers even after Christ sets you free, and they will be angry when you proclaim your freedom. It will be a glorious struggle to overcome your oppressors by the grace of God, but it will be filled with hardship and perhaps death. It's much easier to get to know God early and inherit his wisdom and wealth before you take on the debts of your sin.
And it's funny that you say the doctrine is the torture rack. The doctrine is not condemnation. The Word of God is the wisdom to avoid sin and thereby avoid the debts and disease it brings. The torture device we point to is the cross. It's the perfect way to condemn someone for their crimes. It puts you where everyone can see your naked body and mock you. Your sins are labeled on it, so they can point and say to your face that you deserve it. Your lovers will deny ever loving you, and they will mock your genitals, if they even pass by. Your parents can come and weep, for their last name is borne on the cross with you, and they weep for failing to protect you from your sins. Your employer does not even show up because they are embarrassed by you, not that you sinned, but that you have been punished in public and they don't want to be publicly associated with criminality. You will beg for food, but the passersby cannot reach you. They will instead throw stones at you and tell you to shut up for your screams are unbearable to listen to. You will beg them to stone you to death for your hands and feet are burning from infection and each breath strains your wounds, your exhausted muscles, and your stretched ligaments. Your body slumps forward, but your hands are bound to the wood by big nails, so your arms start being ripped from your shoulders. You beg to see your kids one last time, but your family cannot bear to see you like this, even to calm you. Eventually your only friends will be the criminals on their crosses, the flies that bite your face, and the vultures that await your death. You will probably drown before your start to hallucinate from thirst.
We point to the cross.
The cross is what we deserve for our sin. It represents all of the different punishments rolled into one. Jesus takes it upon himself so that we may be justified in heaven. The ultimate oppressor in this world is death, and Jesus makes it such that we do not have to fear it.
We point to the cross to convey that we cannot be enslaved by death.
Even that is far better moral advice than what Jesus taught, which appears to be the reverse of that.
Take that frase and compare it to the sentiments expressed by Jesus in Matthew 6:24-32.
He is literally telling people to not worry about living, that god will provide them just like he provides the flowers and to literally take “no thought about the morrow”.
Those who are not thinking about the future and who are explicitly instructed not to seek to gain or keep the values they need to sustain their lives are literally being told to get busy dying.
Jesus’ teachings are evil since they divide man into two opposites -one spiritual and not of this earth and one material and of this earth- which cannot coexist. Jesus tells you that your body is of this earth and therefore irrelevant, that you shouldn’t concern yourself with material needs. He tell you to give up those things and concern yourself primarily with the afterlife.
You have to die to get there, and his teachings make it easier, more acceptable to you if not desirable, and induce guilt in those who reject it, even if just subtly.
You have a superior moral code to the one Jesus taught and you don’t seem to understand it. Instead, you have reinterpreted this evil teaching as being “relatable” because we all die.
Brother, everyone dies, but unfortunately very few people get to live. And I personally blame Jesus’ evil teachings for that.
The Garden of Eden was not without labor. God instructed Adam to grow a farm and orchard. However it was without drought, disease, invaders, jealous neighbors, mortgages, guilt, blackmail, taxes, and death.
But Adam and Eve were not satisfied with what God had provided them, so they entertained sin. They were not satisfied with their farm, and they wanted to know what else they could get. They wanted innovation, and so they got obsolescence and rust. They wanted a kingdom, so they became enslaved and raised the kids of others. They wanted riches, and so they got debt, jealousy, theft, and rot. They wanted an enhanced life, and so they got disease, betrayal, and death.
If you doubt God, I encourage you to get to know God by reading the Bible.
If you reject God, I think it's wise to live the most hedonistic life you can afford to live. Get busy living or get busy dying. The faster you become buried in guilt, the faster you will seek Christ's redemption. The faster you become enslaved to addiction, employers, bankers, lovers, blackmailers, bullies, pride, and the government, the sooner you will plead for Christ to set you free. Try to prove me wrong ASAP. But know that you will have to face your slavers even after Christ sets you free, and they will be angry when you proclaim your freedom. It will be a glorious struggle to overcome your oppressors by the grace of God, but it will be filled with hardship and perhaps death. It's much easier to get to know God early and inherit his wisdom and wealth before you take on the debts of your sin.
And it's funny that you say the doctrine is the torture rack. The doctrine is not condemnation. The Word of God is the wisdom to avoid sin and thereby avoid the debts and disease it brings. The torture device we point to is the cross. It's the perfect way to condemn someone for their crimes. It puts you where everyone can see your naked body and mock you. Your sins are labeled on it, so they can point and say to your face that you deserve it. Your lovers will deny ever loving you, and they will mock your genitals, if they even pass by. Your parents can come and weep, for their last name is borne on the cross with you, and they weep for failing to protect you from your sins. Your employer does not even show up because they are embarrassed by you, not that you sinned, but that you have been punished in public and they don't want to be publicly associated with criminality. You will beg for food, but the passersby cannot reach you. They will instead throw stones at you and tell you to shut up for your screams are unbearable to listen to. You will beg them to stone you to death for your hands and feet are burning from infection and each breath strains your wounds, your exhausted muscles, and your stretched ligaments. Your body slumps forward, but your hands are bound to the wood by big nails, so your arms start being ripped from your shoulders. You beg to see your kids one last time, but your family cannot bear to see you like this, even to calm you. Eventually your only friends will be the criminals on their crosses, the flies that bite your face, and the vultures that await your death. You will probably drown before your start to hallucinate from thirst.
We point to the cross.
The cross is what we deserve for our sin. It represents all of the different punishments rolled into one. Jesus takes it upon himself so that we may be justified in heaven. The ultimate oppressor in this world is death, and Jesus makes it such that we do not have to fear it.
We point to the cross to convey that we cannot be enslaved by death.
Yup. Creepy death cult.
Seek help dude.
Hey, death is relatable. Everyone suffers it.
"Get busy livin', or get busy dyin'"
“Get busy livin’, or get busy dyin”
Even that is far better moral advice than what Jesus taught, which appears to be the reverse of that.
Take that frase and compare it to the sentiments expressed by Jesus in Matthew 6:24-32.
He is literally telling people to not worry about living, that god will provide them just like he provides the flowers and to literally take “no thought about the morrow”.
Those who are not thinking about the future and who are explicitly instructed not to seek to gain or keep the values they need to sustain their lives are literally being told to get busy dying.
Jesus’ teachings are evil since they divide man into two opposites -one spiritual and not of this earth and one material and of this earth- which cannot coexist. Jesus tells you that your body is of this earth and therefore irrelevant, that you shouldn’t concern yourself with material needs. He tell you to give up those things and concern yourself primarily with the afterlife.
You have to die to get there, and his teachings make it easier, more acceptable to you if not desirable, and induce guilt in those who reject it, even if just subtly.
You have a superior moral code to the one Jesus taught and you don’t seem to understand it. Instead, you have reinterpreted this evil teaching as being “relatable” because we all die.
Brother, everyone dies, but unfortunately very few people get to live. And I personally blame Jesus’ evil teachings for that.