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sustainable_saltmine 3 points ago +3 / -0

well, that's not entirely why businesses won't pay a "livable wage". They pay you based on what you bring to the company, how hard it'd be to replace you, and what they think is fair based on your job function while still being able to profit off the work you do for them. People don't just wake up one day, decide to go through all the red tape just to start a business by saying "I want to start a business just to employ people". Employees are a necessary evil. It's none of your employer's business if you can live the way you want off the pay they give you. If you can't make ends meet, it's YOUR responsibility to quit the job and get a better one, or find a way to make it work. Lower your standard of living or find a second job. Your employer isn't responsible for making sure you can live off the money they pay. Competition in the job market is what drives wages up. If his competitor pays better, people will go there to work and he will have to find a way to raise wages to compete. A government mandate NEVER works.

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R-A-T-S- 1 point ago +1 / -0

Course though, people are easily replaceable cogs in the machine if you can just keep bringing more of them in. Not just illegal aliens and the like, but also stuff like over seas tech departments. They probably don't even have to worry about minimum wage laws to pay those people

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Gnometard 1 point ago +1 / -0

I worked at a pizza place in college that abused the system like that. The owners owned the business and 2 three bedroom houses.

When I started, we had 4 excellent cooks making $11/hr. They were fast, clean, and efficient. Because of them I was making nearly $300 every night in tips (delivery driver) along with 8 other drivers.

After a year the owners decided to use the seasonal visa workers and fire the cooks that had been there forever. They could rotate them through, legally, every few months. They paid them something ridiculous like $4/hr because if housing was provided they could count that as wages.

They had these people living 8 to a fucking room.

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Gnometard 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's the issue. We don't care about our communities anymore and by allowing illegal immigrants living 10 to a bedroom are able to take all the jobs the owners no longer see the PEOPLE (citizens only) as people.

I don't think any business should go bankrupt over wages but I also don't think it's ethical to pay someone $300/week if you're in an area where the most ghetto apartments are gonna cost you $275/week.

The issue is far more complicated than just wages though. Big corporations lobby for laws that hurt the bottom line of smaller businesses. Collectivist ideology brings about policies that increase the cost of living without bringing in the opportunity.

This is how they've been easing into the communist revolution, class. They tell the poor people it's the business. They tell the business it's the people. *they've since moved to using race and gender to accelerate the revolution

And the root cause of it all is government.... which we're ignoring because the communists told us it's our neighbors and communities causing the issues and not the government.