Matthew 27:22-25 reports on the topic: "'What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?' Pilate asked. They all answered, 'Crucify him!' 'Why? What crime has he committed?' asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, 'Crucify him!' When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. 'I am innocent of this man's blood,' he said. 'It is your responsibility!' All the people answered, 'Let his blood be on us and on our children!'"
In Acts 2 Peter delivers a sermon on the day of Pentecost, addressing the people of Israel. And Peter says to them, “Men of Israel…Hear these words…this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men” In other words, Peter is telling the Jews that they were responsible for the crucifixion and death of Jesus.
You are responsible too. You have sinned. I have sinned. We ALL are responsible for the crucifixion of Christ. We make His sacrifice necessary every time we sin.
What part of those verses am I "misinterpreting"?
Is it this part?
1 John 2:22 KJV Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Do the Jews except Jesus as the savior and son of God?
Am I misinterpreting this also?
1 John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
The same passage notes that the hardening is partial, God has not abandoned the Jews forever, and the ones living at the second coming will adopt Jesus and be saved.
Romans 11.
and the ones that didn't? You know the ones you hold in such on esteem that follow the Talmud.
Even Christ himself asked God's forgiveness for them all as he hung on the cross.
Matthew 27:22-25 reports on the topic: "'What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?' Pilate asked. They all answered, 'Crucify him!' 'Why? What crime has he committed?' asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, 'Crucify him!' When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. 'I am innocent of this man's blood,' he said. 'It is your responsibility!' All the people answered, 'Let his blood be on us and on our children!'"
Because every jew was was in attendance, right? All of them in one place, to witness and call for the crucifixion? All of them?
So the verse is meaningless to you?
Are the Jews liars?
In Acts 2 Peter delivers a sermon on the day of Pentecost, addressing the people of Israel. And Peter says to them, “Men of Israel…Hear these words…this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men” In other words, Peter is telling the Jews that they were responsible for the crucifixion and death of Jesus.
You are responsible too. You have sinned. I have sinned. We ALL are responsible for the crucifixion of Christ. We make His sacrifice necessary every time we sin.
Go read the stoning of Stephen in Acts.
Look at the point the listeners got ticked off enough to stone him...
Yep we all have but I accept Jesus as the son of God and he died so that I might live These ppl who you call Jews don't. So where does that lead them?
So are you saying the KJV Bible is lying to us?
I am stating you are misinterpreting it and are falling into satan's trap of division.
What part of those verses am I "misinterpreting"? Is it this part? 1 John 2:22 KJV Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Do the Jews except Jesus as the savior and son of God?
Am I misinterpreting this also? 1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
He's saying that Christ died for the sins of all mankind. None are righteous, not one, remember?
Hebrews notes that those who sin after conversion crucify Christ again.
I see them as imperfect beings worthy of forgiveness. And you? Would you put yourself in God's place in the seat if judgement?
No forgiveness after you traffic and/or fuck a kid. Mercy is a fast death after a day and fair trial
Mans justice is a separate issue. Mercy is a last chance before execution from this mortal realm into God's hands to judge the second death.
Go read St. Paul. A temporary hardening of the heart has happened to Israel, so that God may allow Himself to have mercy on the Gentiles as well.
Key words: as well. Means also
The same passage notes that the hardening is partial, God has not abandoned the Jews forever, and the ones living at the second coming will adopt Jesus and be saved. Romans 11.
Granted. But that does not excuse nor justify their hardness of heart, nor make it "crimethink" to point it out.
Forgiveness does not eschew responsibility for stopping bad behavior if you have the capability to do so.
And you prosecute them criminally