I'm going to have a hard time trusting any vaccine anymore. It's obvious these companies are up to no good and have the government fully behind them.
I suspect in the future, we'll look back on vaccines like we did cigarettes. I think a lot of modern issues with regards to transgender, low testosterone in men, mental health issues, higher rates of cancer, etc... will be linked to vaccines. I bet some in the medical industry already know it but the pharmaceutical companies are suppressing this knowledge.
These mRNA vaccines are going to be used as a modern form of eugenics and government control of the population. I doubt much good will actually come of it.
The “vaccine” was mass produced at a cost of billions of dollars before even short-term testing could be completed. Also, there was tremendous pressure from Trump to approve it. Therefore the testing was 100% compromised. I will never trust this “vaccine” that they had to literally change the definition of the word to be able to call it that.
Trump played the Left’s game. He sat at there table and by their metric, he won. They said his response to the coronavirus was a “disaster.” They said he would never be able to produce a vaccine. So he took up the challenge and he did.
I’m not getting the vaccine, I don’t trust it at all. I think it’s a money making scam.
But Trump beat the Left at their own game. I don’t think he meant to backstab us.
I think it goes beyond money making scam and creates division and boogeymen/witch-hunt scenarios, and that division is the true first objective. And I think we're losing bc people trusted Trump on this and we will basically be outnumbered by sheep demanding compliance very soon. Worries me. These people aborted American principles bc they were sufficiently scared by lies. I will never.
oh, something tells me this gene modifying shot was being tested for a longtime before c19 BS. David Martin PhD made a report, where he claims works have been started around 2001. UK Column (news) presented leaked documents showing coronavirus ‘vaccine’ was being imported by EU already in 2018.
I expect most if not all vaccines to be mRNA vaccines. They are already working on mRNA flu vaccines.
I think mRNA technology is interesting in that it may help with getting the immune system to attack cancer cells. But right now we don't have any long term research in humans. We know these vaccines have had disastrous effects in mammals and it's just too much of a risk for what is not much worse than a common cold for most people.
The problem with the mRNA vaccines is that they don't create proper herd immunity such that people who aren't vaccinated are also protected. Also, given how the vaccines work, they actually allow viruses to mutate much quicker than if we didn't vaccinate anyone or if we used traditional vaccines.
The end result of large-scale use of mRNA vaccines on the public will be an increase in the deadliness of viruses and no decrease in the prevalence of viruses. Basically: We will all be forced to take mRNA vaccines constantly, every single year for the rest of our lives. This is precisely what the industry wants because it's big money but it's not good for us at all.
The scariest part of mRNA vaccines is the loose connection to prion development. I know a weird protein fold can happen spontaneously, but the way I understand mRNA vaccines is that they can facilitate this mutation much easier. When get overwhelmed, as a species, with rampant prions, that’s a wrap.
Yep, i expect nothing good to come from mRNA vaccines. We're going to get a dystopian future where some people will need constant vaccines to survive and we'll have "naturalist" humans that won't be able to associate with the vaccinated humans or risk dying. The future doesn't look good.
Imagine how to felt like to be an Usenet browser who discussed the 9/11 attacks ahead of their occurrence and who quickly got silenced because the same U.S. government that unironically funded a child trafficking ring with taxpayer money among other crimes spread to the guillible gossip girls that they were "smelly internet weirdos."
The same is happening to the anti-vaccine movement who question the Big Pharma studies that form the "consensus" that vaccines are "99% harmless and effective."
I'm convinced Deus Ex was written by someone who got a copy of the script for the NWO.
Twin towers gone in a terror attack, the people creating the cure created the virus in the first place. the "cure" is meant to be short term and used as a method of blackmail and control. And of course the whole game being about various Illuminati type groups fighting for control of the now globalized nations.
Expect there to be "vaccines" for everything if they eventually get (bribe) the FDA to approve these. They already have "vaccines" for drinking and smoking and I bet this mRNA technology could be applied to those along with any common habit or ailment.
A part of me hopes that this whole thing is successful and it becomes easy to cure things like flu, colds, and maybe even cancer. I'm very skeptical given that past animal trials have resulted in Antibody-Dependent Enhancements that caused the animals to become even sicker or die when exposed to the virus in the wild.
The unspoken tragedy of it all - at their core, vaccines can be a good thing, protecting us from the worst diseases, diseases that would normally claim countless lives, but now even vaccines have been corrupted for political ends.
Right here with you. I travel a ton, and fly around the world. If it becomes mandatory, I will lose mine. Already told my bosses that I will refuse it.
I will dig ditches if thats what i've got to do to keep my family fed. (less than 5 years away from debt free though, which would make that easier)
I am not covid vaccinating. I received a polio vaccine in the late 50's and guess what....polio withered my body. Found research stating government know percentage of population would be susceptible to contracting polio from sabin's oral dose.
"It was for the greater good", "your genes were weak", "it would have been worse, the medicine helped".
Live life fighting good intentions, my body no more experiments.
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I remember a girl in elementary school that had a bad leg from polio. Then again no one had heard of autism, food allergies were unheard of, and maybe one in 30 kids were fat, unlike 29 out of 30 today.
My God, I jumped on a dating app, and 90%+ of the girls are whales! Don't get me wrong, I know a dating app will have... Many less desirable girls, but man... The obesity rate these days seems to be higher amongst women than men honestly.
Both both have such high rates! I'm so glad I'm fit and thin.
I was shocked in medical school to hear them teach about this. Jones had always said it, but he makes everything sound hyperbolic. And they just dropped this gem.
Of course the Sabin vaccine is still administered in other countries... blech.
There are many facts about this whole situation that give me pause and doubt, but the main one I struggle with is, why aren't General Practitioners being allowed to give the shot?
Don't get me wrong I'm never taking that "vaccine"... But why would I trust some random health care provider who doesn't know anything about my medical history to give me a shot that has very odd or unknown reactions?? My doctor is trusted to give me a whole host of vaccines, but not this one?
If you watch NBC nightly news, every single commercial has “ask your doctor if ____ is right for you”. Yet when it comes to this new vaccine, don’t bother asking your doctor if it’s right for you, just take it!
What do you mean what am I talking about... You answered my issue. So you know what I'm talking about.
You have to be joking, there aren't limited vaccine doses. Currently In my city they are struggling to find people to give these vaccines to. I receive daily emails from my local health department asking me and all my coworkers to talk to my friends, family and neighbors about getting the vaccine and that no appointment is necessary, you can just walk right in. There was a vaccine clinic at work today and I never saw more than 5 people in the room (not including the nurses) the entire day.
I do receive and will continue to receive all ofy vaccines directly from my Dr and his staff. It's not that absurd of an idea to leave my personal health in the hands of the healthcare professionals I know and trust
The lax attitude people have about just randomly getting injected with some unknown, clinically unapproved fluid by a stranger is baffling.
Wow, you really are a cantankerous shrew, aren't you?
Not that I owe you any sort of explanation but of course I did. They're not being provided the option to order the vaccine into their office and per my GP they don't know when or if they will ever be provided the option to order.
And let's call a spade a spade. I used the term "unknown" because yes I'm alluding to the fact that nobody really knows yet what the results of the clinical trials will bring. So at this time you can look on the box all you want, but until a person knows the end results, it really does surprise me that so many people are willing to jump in head first. Again, I don't think this is an absurd concept. Don't even need to go down any weird ass conspiracy routes. Nobody knows yet what the repercussions of these rapidly made vaccines are. It gives me even more pause that they were rushing to create this vaccine before they even know all of the details about Covid or how to even accurately test for it.
How can you create a solution when the full spectrum of the problem wasn't even known?
We can continue to battle this, you throwing your accusations and beliefs at mine, but in the end I know all you want to do is try to prove people wrong.
You will not change my mind that people are injecting themselves with fluid that they don't know much about. That's exactly what is happening. I would never consent to an experimental medical trial of any sort and until the clinical testing on these vaccines are complete, that is exactly what everyone is doing.
I'm on zinc and elderberry everyday, with as much sun time as i can get.
Had a sinus infection (or rona, not sure which) early last year, and these cleared it right up in record time. (Claritin for 4 days too. Usually 10 days)
I got mine back in 1967. My Vax Passport is the little round scar on my left shoulder that was caused as a result from said structured chemical inoculation process. I'm done with your fucking government toxins!
Don't. When I bought MRNA stock 2 years ago, it was with the idea it'd be for gene therapy for cancer, other diseases after maybe 2030. For them to roll all this out for everyone with no track record, I regret ever having given them my cash. They're a threat to society afaic.
Unfortunately some of us were vaccinated because we were forced to. Well, I guess none of us were actually forced to. But our defense contractor employers, who get federal dollars, strongly suggested that we do it. Essentially you couldn't travel, and so you couldn't work, unless you got the vaccine.
Understand that many of us have a particular skill set, and there's only certain places that can employ us. We are still with you 100%. Just know there's many of us.
And do what? Live on handouts? You probably have no concept of just how much us peons working within the military industrial complex are making. Far better than we would do anywhere else. Recognize that you are better off with many conservative leaning people maintaining our employment within key positions. We know we work for the enemy.
Sometimes they get you where you don't have a choice. Its get the vax and continue your modern life or don't and sell off everything and move to the middle of nowhere, off the grid and totally self-subsist
For the very same reason that people work themselves to death and die ar 60. All for a company that doesn't care one bit about them. We all make decisions about our health and life every day, and most people aren't making the right one every time.
That sucks, but someone has to be the first to refuse, get fired, and sue the government. The idea that people can be forced to take something that is under an EUA and has not been even properly tested is absolutely absurd.
While I agree with you, the last part could have been deleted. I think we're all ok with resisting here, I just flat out am not getting jabbed. It's not happening.
I said it once I'll say it twice - I'd rather perish with the DNA God gave me than live as some transhumanist slave in a woke dystopia. Suck my dick, Big Pharma.
This. Now if the mask cultists would be this way we would be set. Unfortunately I don't think we can give them a choice anymore. The masks must be removed by any means necessary. They have to be outlawed and shamed or they won't go away
I have a natural immunity to propaganda! I am an intelligent person! So sad to see all the uneducated people following the rules of the virus that is not even real!
What blows my mind is idiots run out to get this vaccine but won't touch a flu shot. I've been getting flu shots for the last 10 years because of the ass flu but they can eat shit on this fake covid shot.
This last flu shot will probably be my last since I can't trust they won't try to contaminate future flu shots with "covid" ingredients.
I had a conversation with my family yesterday about it. Both parents getting it (one has 1st shot) and brother is in line. There are some preexisting conditions that mom and brother have, that would make sense for them to have. Dad talked extensively with his doctor.
Brother 2 and I both refuse, and will not be getting it. But, because we collectively are conservatives, bro2 and i got no grief for not getting it, nor for not wearing masks.
Do what you'd like, its your choice. But I will not be bullied into getting something that has 0 track record, and more deaths than ALL of the vaccines administered last year.
I would rather we go back to old BBSes that didn't even have handles to identify a "user." Where people just decided for themselves through reports if posts deserved to stay up or not, or exercised their own discretion and were able to recognize worthless and emotionally pandering posts that contributed nothing of substance.
"<--- number of pedes that", or "up vote if." It doesn't add anything to the site, doesn't inform, provide new information, or anything of that sort.
If there is a post about the election and it points out the fraud, cites evidence and all that, that's great. I always upvote the post about Donald Trump winning in a landslide.
I got vaccinated... and I fully support your right to choose to not get one. You should not be mandated to get this or have your life so utterly restricted that you can’t reasonable function without your ‘papers’. We should have the right to choose what to do with our bodies....my body my choice? Btw.... Libs... a living being is not a choice... a dead virus I’m fine with. Get bent commies.
It's not so much that, it's that the medical powers will claim there's a mutation and use that to scare people when something kills a significant portion. Now, beyond that, it's far more likely they will squeeze and take away everything from you to force vaccination beyond just being able to go to sporting events, concerts, stores and public gatherings. They'll deny divorced parents visitation rights over vaccination status, you won't be able to be around your family. There are no limits to how far they will go to "incentivize" you to get it but still make it look like you "chose to get it"
You would rather die than get a vax they could kill you. Nice.
The whole point of not getting this vaccine is not to get something that could harm you while the chance of getting harmed by the virus is so small.
Good for you. I think it's stupid that if people get the vaccine they openly declare it and it's even worse when the people virtue signal about how they're "protecting others" by getting it and they're "so caring". And get their picture taken doing it.
I noticed you didn't actually address the core of the argument which is either trusting the Chinese bioweapon or the vaccine.
Did you have anything to add to that argument or are you maybe just a little upset because what I said makes sense and you don't have an substantive reply to it?
One is a thing you may get. The other is something you get 100%.
Like would you rather walk down detroit at night where you may get mugged or killed, or would you rather just eat your own shotgun shell?
Terrible analogy because actual chances of both are 100%.
COVID is becoming endemic. It is going to be part of our lives now just as influenza is. When I received my first dose the infectious disease doc told us to expect a booster within 6-12 months to address variants.
So you either trust the Chinese bioweapon or you trust the weapon that was built to counter it. Other than that I suppose you could start your own commune in the mountains so you can avoid the virus that has a 0.01% fatality rate.
Perhaps its what you tell yourself as you run out to get this year's flu shot injected into you. More so that than, just because you don't trust something doesn't mean you trust the other thing. Its quite possible they were created in tandem. A thing that is super infectious to go ooga booga to make you get the thing that was really wanted you to get. Or I could whip up a vat full of chemicals and put them in a needle and say "Hey lets inject you with this to fight the viruses! You either trust me or you trust the virus. One or the other!"
I don’t believe it’s a bio weapon. I believe it’s purely a psyop led by the media. The nursing home policies and ventilators caused the big death spike. Also why would congress incentivize covid diagnoses and deaths? None of our response was logical. Everything was designed to cause more harm than necessary.
After watching Info Wars Spars Pandemic over the weekend this whole thing was pre planed, as Alex Jones said it’s like getting a role in a play & we are at chapter 2 with 8 more to go they are telling you what is coming next. People better wake up to this depopulation before it’s to late. Go to banned.viedo and watch this bombshell report.
Well if you're in a high risk group you have to weigh your options to help prevent a potential higher risk of death from hospitalization. I hear the J&J vax is made in the more traditional way vaccines are made. Tell me where I am wrong?
Once inside the cell, the adenovirus 26 (the viral vector of the J&J vaccine) will seek out the nucleus of your cell, and inject its DNA (not mRNA) into the nucleus of your cell.
nanolipid encapsulated mRNA enters cell -> mRNA goes to ribosomes -> ribosomes make COVID spike proteins
the J&J and AZ vaccines work like this:
Surfactants bypass cellular defenses depositing a modified adenovirus 26 inside the cell -> modified adenovirus seeks out nucleus and injects its DNA payload into the nucleus of your cell - > nucleus of your cell now has instructions to produce mRNA to instruct the cell's ribosomes to build COVID spike proteins.
The big difference here is the mRNA vaccine is temporary. Although certainly not good, nor safe, your cellular nucleus remains untouched.
The J&J vaccine however, leaves your cell nucleus modified.
How do cells reproduce? Through a duplicating process called mitosis.
During mitosis, the DNA from the cell is basically unzipped, split in two, and two copies of the cell's DNA are created from the original cell.
If the J&J vaccine modifies the nuclei of your cells, and cells duplicate their DNA when reproducing, then the J&J modified cells will continue to duplicate their modified DNA.
It is possible that all cells in your body would then have the modified DNA. If every cell in your body has the same modified DNA, you could then say that your entire DNA has been modified as none of your original DNA is left.
You are now an experimental gene therapy J&J GMO product.
But wouldn't a normal COVID exposure (or any other virus for that matter) essentially do the same thing? Leave your DNA modified? What's the difference?
I really don't know why I bother because when you write a post the length of a damn book you're not likely to listen, vaccines do change your DNA but so do viruses. Humans have tons of junk DNA.
I am a Biologist with a relative who got FUCKED up from a vaccine reaction that cause a fever and screwed up their developing mind as a kid, I still support Vaccines.
Good news is it's only there to protect you not me. If you don't want it I'm not at risk. Polio, Small Pox, hell even Chicken Pox now are all prevented with Vaccination or have nearly completely been eradicated from vaccination.
For the Covid Vaccine be rushed to availability it did have to bypass safety testing, Trump was who made that possible. I understand being leery of an under tested vaccine but overall Vaccination is a good thing.
We know a corona virus vaccine for cats caused immune dependent enhancement making the casts much sicker after encountering the real virus. Another vaccine for a similar virus for people killed a lot of kids in the Philippines for the same reason.
no upvote. If I can't travel, can't shop, if I can't go through life without "papers please", then I will have to. I will relocate to a free land if one exists to avoid this and other illegal nonsense
So you'll leave your brothers and sisters in the fight of our lives?
What is with people like you?
You must not have much crossover with my bloodline, because if you are in mine for centuries
and centuries we fight. We hold the line for real.
And only flee when the only other choice is death.
You should hurry up and get gone.
We're better off without you.
I appreciate the crusade against this "vaccine" but in the long run you know you won't win. They will take everything from you if they have to so you're either forced to or isolated from society permanently
I'm going to have a hard time trusting any vaccine anymore. It's obvious these companies are up to no good and have the government fully behind them.
I suspect in the future, we'll look back on vaccines like we did cigarettes. I think a lot of modern issues with regards to transgender, low testosterone in men, mental health issues, higher rates of cancer, etc... will be linked to vaccines. I bet some in the medical industry already know it but the pharmaceutical companies are suppressing this knowledge.
These mRNA vaccines are going to be used as a modern form of eugenics and government control of the population. I doubt much good will actually come of it.
The “vaccine” was mass produced at a cost of billions of dollars before even short-term testing could be completed. Also, there was tremendous pressure from Trump to approve it. Therefore the testing was 100% compromised. I will never trust this “vaccine” that they had to literally change the definition of the word to be able to call it that.
Trump played the Left’s game. He sat at there table and by their metric, he won. They said his response to the coronavirus was a “disaster.” They said he would never be able to produce a vaccine. So he took up the challenge and he did.
I’m not getting the vaccine, I don’t trust it at all. I think it’s a money making scam.
But Trump beat the Left at their own game. I don’t think he meant to backstab us.
I think it goes beyond money making scam and creates division and boogeymen/witch-hunt scenarios, and that division is the true first objective. And I think we're losing bc people trusted Trump on this and we will basically be outnumbered by sheep demanding compliance very soon. Worries me. These people aborted American principles bc they were sufficiently scared by lies. I will never.
Don't forget who was advising him. He later turned on Fauci and to a lesser degree Birx, but the globalists really got to him.
It's only called that because the mod team had a bitch tantrum meltdown...
oh, something tells me this gene modifying shot was being tested for a longtime before c19 BS. David Martin PhD made a report, where he claims works have been started around 2001. UK Column (news) presented leaked documents showing coronavirus ‘vaccine’ was being imported by EU already in 2018.
except never finished testing in humans... until now
Never started testing in humans until now!
FTFY
I expect most if not all vaccines to be mRNA vaccines. They are already working on mRNA flu vaccines.
I think mRNA technology is interesting in that it may help with getting the immune system to attack cancer cells. But right now we don't have any long term research in humans. We know these vaccines have had disastrous effects in mammals and it's just too much of a risk for what is not much worse than a common cold for most people.
The problem with the mRNA vaccines is that they don't create proper herd immunity such that people who aren't vaccinated are also protected. Also, given how the vaccines work, they actually allow viruses to mutate much quicker than if we didn't vaccinate anyone or if we used traditional vaccines.
The end result of large-scale use of mRNA vaccines on the public will be an increase in the deadliness of viruses and no decrease in the prevalence of viruses. Basically: We will all be forced to take mRNA vaccines constantly, every single year for the rest of our lives. This is precisely what the industry wants because it's big money but it's not good for us at all.
The scariest part of mRNA vaccines is the loose connection to prion development. I know a weird protein fold can happen spontaneously, but the way I understand mRNA vaccines is that they can facilitate this mutation much easier. When get overwhelmed, as a species, with rampant prions, that’s a wrap.
Yep, i expect nothing good to come from mRNA vaccines. We're going to get a dystopian future where some people will need constant vaccines to survive and we'll have "naturalist" humans that won't be able to associate with the vaccinated humans or risk dying. The future doesn't look good.
Like the Eloi and Morelocks?
Naturalist it is.
"Why contain it?"
Imagine how to felt like to be an Usenet browser who discussed the 9/11 attacks ahead of their occurrence and who quickly got silenced because the same U.S. government that unironically funded a child trafficking ring with taxpayer money among other crimes spread to the guillible gossip girls that they were "smelly internet weirdos."
The same is happening to the anti-vaccine movement who question the Big Pharma studies that form the "consensus" that vaccines are "99% harmless and effective."
I'm convinced Deus Ex was written by someone who got a copy of the script for the NWO.
Twin towers gone in a terror attack, the people creating the cure created the virus in the first place. the "cure" is meant to be short term and used as a method of blackmail and control. And of course the whole game being about various Illuminati type groups fighting for control of the now globalized nations.
Super leaky innoculation is super leaky. Be wary.
Expect there to be "vaccines" for everything if they eventually get (bribe) the FDA to approve these. They already have "vaccines" for drinking and smoking and I bet this mRNA technology could be applied to those along with any common habit or ailment.
A part of me hopes that this whole thing is successful and it becomes easy to cure things like flu, colds, and maybe even cancer. I'm very skeptical given that past animal trials have resulted in Antibody-Dependent Enhancements that caused the animals to become even sicker or die when exposed to the virus in the wild.
Cancer cells are caused by the continual break down of the body with warped cell information caused by drugs, chemicals, bad diet etc.
To fix cancer is to heal the body.
To build your organs with proper cells you need proper nutrients. It’s actually not complicated.
But cancer is at the bad of end of the health spectrum for how poor condition your body is in.
But with a lack of nutrients because of fasting your body starts breaking down old cells that may become cancerous via autophagy.
By lack of nutrients I don’t mean deprivation. Eating chips is a lot different than eating cold pressed veggie juice.
I do think fasting is good though because it gives your body more time to fully process and cleanse the body of what’s gone in.
I like to eat an earlier dinner and then do breakfast at 9:30-10.
The unspoken tragedy of it all - at their core, vaccines can be a good thing, protecting us from the worst diseases, diseases that would normally claim countless lives, but now even vaccines have been corrupted for political ends.
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I personally know a DC lobbyist for Pfizer. He let me know that his job is no different than selling hamburgers in his own opinion.
He stated that the only purpose is to sell as many units as possible.
I’m willing to lose my job not to take it, and I just might.
Im willing to relocate to a rural area and raise my own chickens and pigs over this. Go back to a barter/subsistence way of life.
Me too
Me three.
Me four.
Right here with you. I travel a ton, and fly around the world. If it becomes mandatory, I will lose mine. Already told my bosses that I will refuse it.
I will dig ditches if thats what i've got to do to keep my family fed. (less than 5 years away from debt free though, which would make that easier)
I am not covid vaccinating. I received a polio vaccine in the late 50's and guess what....polio withered my body. Found research stating government know percentage of population would be susceptible to contracting polio from sabin's oral dose. "It was for the greater good", "your genes were weak", "it would have been worse, the medicine helped". Live life fighting good intentions, my body no more experiments.
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I remember a girl in elementary school that had a bad leg from polio. Then again no one had heard of autism, food allergies were unheard of, and maybe one in 30 kids were fat, unlike 29 out of 30 today.
My God, I jumped on a dating app, and 90%+ of the girls are whales! Don't get me wrong, I know a dating app will have... Many less desirable girls, but man... The obesity rate these days seems to be higher amongst women than men honestly.
Both both have such high rates! I'm so glad I'm fit and thin.
And they still demand perfect super model dudes with millions of dollars.
I was shocked in medical school to hear them teach about this. Jones had always said it, but he makes everything sound hyperbolic. And they just dropped this gem.
Of course the Sabin vaccine is still administered in other countries... blech.
There are many facts about this whole situation that give me pause and doubt, but the main one I struggle with is, why aren't General Practitioners being allowed to give the shot?
Don't get me wrong I'm never taking that "vaccine"... But why would I trust some random health care provider who doesn't know anything about my medical history to give me a shot that has very odd or unknown reactions?? My doctor is trusted to give me a whole host of vaccines, but not this one?
Your health doesn't matter when harming it is the intention.
your doctor can't lie to you about you participating in an experiment, you'd sue him into parallel timeline
It's hard to talk someone who knows you into poisoning you.
If you watch NBC nightly news, every single commercial has “ask your doctor if ____ is right for you”. Yet when it comes to this new vaccine, don’t bother asking your doctor if it’s right for you, just take it!
What do you mean what am I talking about... You answered my issue. So you know what I'm talking about.
You have to be joking, there aren't limited vaccine doses. Currently In my city they are struggling to find people to give these vaccines to. I receive daily emails from my local health department asking me and all my coworkers to talk to my friends, family and neighbors about getting the vaccine and that no appointment is necessary, you can just walk right in. There was a vaccine clinic at work today and I never saw more than 5 people in the room (not including the nurses) the entire day.
I do receive and will continue to receive all ofy vaccines directly from my Dr and his staff. It's not that absurd of an idea to leave my personal health in the hands of the healthcare professionals I know and trust
The lax attitude people have about just randomly getting injected with some unknown, clinically unapproved fluid by a stranger is baffling.
Wow, you really are a cantankerous shrew, aren't you?
Not that I owe you any sort of explanation but of course I did. They're not being provided the option to order the vaccine into their office and per my GP they don't know when or if they will ever be provided the option to order.
And let's call a spade a spade. I used the term "unknown" because yes I'm alluding to the fact that nobody really knows yet what the results of the clinical trials will bring. So at this time you can look on the box all you want, but until a person knows the end results, it really does surprise me that so many people are willing to jump in head first. Again, I don't think this is an absurd concept. Don't even need to go down any weird ass conspiracy routes. Nobody knows yet what the repercussions of these rapidly made vaccines are. It gives me even more pause that they were rushing to create this vaccine before they even know all of the details about Covid or how to even accurately test for it.
How can you create a solution when the full spectrum of the problem wasn't even known?
We can continue to battle this, you throwing your accusations and beliefs at mine, but in the end I know all you want to do is try to prove people wrong.
You will not change my mind that people are injecting themselves with fluid that they don't know much about. That's exactly what is happening. I would never consent to an experimental medical trial of any sort and until the clinical testing on these vaccines are complete, that is exactly what everyone is doing.
When do we get to fight the commies.
a commie a day keeps the communism at bay
I wish. We Noah to kill a lot more than that.
Vitamin D, zinc every day ivermectin once/month https://covid19criticalcare.com/
I like it the old school way: honeygar, fish, pre-fermented foods, red meat, and sunshine, but to each his own :)
I'm on zinc and elderberry everyday, with as much sun time as i can get.
Had a sinus infection (or rona, not sure which) early last year, and these cleared it right up in record time. (Claritin for 4 days too. Usually 10 days)
Waiting for those black market vaccine cards for the family.
My 'government' job only recognizes the jab for three months. It's gonna be the new flu shot, I've been saying it for at least 8 months.
"Oh Im sorry, I'm allergic to the ingredients in the new vaccine. I really wish I could take it"
I got mine back in 1967. My Vax Passport is the little round scar on my left shoulder that was caused as a result from said structured chemical inoculation process. I'm done with your fucking government toxins!
you've been marked
You are allergic to propylene glycol, remember? Tell your doc, get exemption!
tell your doctor to hand you the documents for enlistment in a Phase 3 human experiments... then don't sign them
And then vape right after because normies are too dumb to connect the two ;D
mRNA treatment shouldn't be labeled as a "vaccine" because it isn't, it's gene therapy.
Don't. When I bought MRNA stock 2 years ago, it was with the idea it'd be for gene therapy for cancer, other diseases after maybe 2030. For them to roll all this out for everyone with no track record, I regret ever having given them my cash. They're a threat to society afaic.
Unfortunately some of us were vaccinated because we were forced to. Well, I guess none of us were actually forced to. But our defense contractor employers, who get federal dollars, strongly suggested that we do it. Essentially you couldn't travel, and so you couldn't work, unless you got the vaccine.
Understand that many of us have a particular skill set, and there's only certain places that can employ us. We are still with you 100%. Just know there's many of us.
I don't have kids, so if work essentially forced me to vaccinate, I'd 100% quit. I'm never giving up my freedom to choose.
I'm never working for someone who forces a vaccine to have freedom.
What's next? More vaccines? A microchip? For your health of course!
Microchips in 15 years aren't far off at all. In fact, I bet 50 million + will be chipped within 20 or less years.
I'd sooner off myself than be chipped like livestock.
By the way, not knocking you.
You are welcome to make your own decisions. You are an adult, and can weigh the postivies / negatives and decide what is best for your life.
Good luck. Hopefully you are in the majority so far who haven't had any serious issues.
So far it's just a small minority with serious issues, but even if it's 1%, that's millions. So it adds up.
I've been vaccinated for months now, no issues.
Then quit.
And do what? Live on handouts? You probably have no concept of just how much us peons working within the military industrial complex are making. Far better than we would do anywhere else. Recognize that you are better off with many conservative leaning people maintaining our employment within key positions. We know we work for the enemy.
If you know you work for the enemy, and you continue to do so, you are the enemy.
What the fuck is wrong with you.
I bet you live a completely principled life, always taking the high road, no compromise. Right?
I don't work for the fucking enemy, you stupid fuck.
Life isn't about absolutes, but working for the enemy should make you ashamed.
Go start a business. Stop empowering those who want to destroy you.
Wow, you are an inspiration to all of us. Someday you will lead a revolution, we will all follow you
Fuck that. Revolutions are for useful idiots of the left.
Yes, quit. I do very well myself, but the vax is the line in the sand.
I'd rather them fire me and hold my head high then slowly die taking their blood money.
Retard. You’re not a compliant anything.
I don’t get why would You make the rest of your life ( immunity system) totally dependant on someone else, under any circumstances.
Don't insult the guy. We'll need his vaccine ID template to make believable fakes. The New Resistance needs infiltrators at every level.
Exactly
Sometimes they get you where you don't have a choice. Its get the vax and continue your modern life or don't and sell off everything and move to the middle of nowhere, off the grid and totally self-subsist
The way life should be. Technology has spread so much evil throughout the world, disconnecting from the Matrix is not a bad way to live.
For the very same reason that people work themselves to death and die ar 60. All for a company that doesn't care one bit about them. We all make decisions about our health and life every day, and most people aren't making the right one every time.
That sucks, but someone has to be the first to refuse, get fired, and sue the government. The idea that people can be forced to take something that is under an EUA and has not been even properly tested is absolutely absurd.
I hope you got the Johnson one
Nope. Moderna
Even if it says "666" on the needle and implant a barcode tracker in your wrist? Come on man!
Here's a new word.. "Vaxcitizenship".
I would, but I reject "UPVOTE IF X!" posts as much as I reject the vaccine.
I'm not either.
While I agree with you, the last part could have been deleted. I think we're all ok with resisting here, I just flat out am not getting jabbed. It's not happening.
Nice try CDC.
I said it once I'll say it twice - I'd rather perish with the DNA God gave me than live as some transhumanist slave in a woke dystopia. Suck my dick, Big Pharma.
It’s not a vaccine just because they call it that, OP.
It’s not a vaccine according to the 2020 dictionary. It is according to the 2021 edition. Take that for what it’s worth!
never ever
I'll be fighting for that right tomorrow! Wish me luck!
The vaccines may have a 1-2 year lag until the most serious symptoms/death start occurring. Proceed accordingly
https://patriots.win/p/12i48ZliFi/the-alex-jones-show--emergency-s/c/
If the vaccine in questions is actually a vaccine that has undergone rigorous testing and is demonstrably safe and effective, sure, I'd consider that.
The "vaccine" in question is none of these, though.
I got the vaccine but I respect those that don't want it
Hope you already had kids.
This. Now if the mask cultists would be this way we would be set. Unfortunately I don't think we can give them a choice anymore. The masks must be removed by any means necessary. They have to be outlawed and shamed or they won't go away
Thank you for respecting my choice. I respect yours as well.
Shut up faggot.
I certainly didn’t just get lucky this past year.
The is another class of animal and person who has no right to make medical choices for themselves.
Didn’t you just start a thread “wife convinced me to get the vaccine”?
I have a natural immunity to propaganda! I am an intelligent person! So sad to see all the uneducated people following the rules of the virus that is not even real!
What blows my mind is idiots run out to get this vaccine but won't touch a flu shot. I've been getting flu shots for the last 10 years because of the ass flu but they can eat shit on this fake covid shot. This last flu shot will probably be my last since I can't trust they won't try to contaminate future flu shots with "covid" ingredients.
Never conform
Agreed. Totally sketch!
I had a conversation with my family yesterday about it. Both parents getting it (one has 1st shot) and brother is in line. There are some preexisting conditions that mom and brother have, that would make sense for them to have. Dad talked extensively with his doctor.
Brother 2 and I both refuse, and will not be getting it. But, because we collectively are conservatives, bro2 and i got no grief for not getting it, nor for not wearing masks.
Do what you'd like, its your choice. But I will not be bullied into getting something that has 0 track record, and more deaths than ALL of the vaccines administered last year.
I disagree I think YOU will be vaccinated.
And take this up vote if you agree karma whoring back to reddit. This exact one comes up every other day.
I have no problem with this being posted daily. Same with the reminder that election was stolen.
I would rather we go back to old BBSes that didn't even have handles to identify a "user." Where people just decided for themselves through reports if posts deserved to stay up or not, or exercised their own discretion and were able to recognize worthless and emotionally pandering posts that contributed nothing of substance.
My problem is with the...
"<--- number of pedes that", or "up vote if." It doesn't add anything to the site, doesn't inform, provide new information, or anything of that sort.
If there is a post about the election and it points out the fraud, cites evidence and all that, that's great. I always upvote the post about Donald Trump winning in a landslide.
This should be sticky'd and you should feel bad.
I bet you're on your third dose.
I got vaccinated... and I fully support your right to choose to not get one. You should not be mandated to get this or have your life so utterly restricted that you can’t reasonable function without your ‘papers’. We should have the right to choose what to do with our bodies....my body my choice? Btw.... Libs... a living being is not a choice... a dead virus I’m fine with. Get bent commies.
We love you too, fren!
https://youtu.be/-aHRMjVHggI
https://youtu.be/V_deYlKJWOk
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/video-chapters/vaccines-do-not-deserve-the-credit-for-reducing-contagious-diseases/
http://www.laleva.org/eng/2007/07/jon_rappoport_interview_of_ex_vaccine_researcher.html
Saying "no circumstances" is stupid. If a mutation appears that kills 10% of the population of all ages would you reconsider? I would.
It's not so much that, it's that the medical powers will claim there's a mutation and use that to scare people when something kills a significant portion. Now, beyond that, it's far more likely they will squeeze and take away everything from you to force vaccination beyond just being able to go to sporting events, concerts, stores and public gatherings. They'll deny divorced parents visitation rights over vaccination status, you won't be able to be around your family. There are no limits to how far they will go to "incentivize" you to get it but still make it look like you "chose to get it"
Nope. I’d rather die.
You would rather die than get a vax they could kill you. Nice. The whole point of not getting this vaccine is not to get something that could harm you while the chance of getting harmed by the virus is so small.
I think it's stupid that the same people that swear it's a bioweapon engineered by the Chinese refuse the vaccine because it was also engineered.
The logic (Which doesn't make sense) is that they trust a weaponized virus more than the vaccine engineered to fight it.
I got my 2nd round of the Moderna vaccine on Feb 25th.
Good for you. I think it's stupid that if people get the vaccine they openly declare it and it's even worse when the people virtue signal about how they're "protecting others" by getting it and they're "so caring". And get their picture taken doing it.
I noticed you didn't actually address the core of the argument which is either trusting the Chinese bioweapon or the vaccine.
Did you have anything to add to that argument or are you maybe just a little upset because what I said makes sense and you don't have an substantive reply to it?
One is a thing you may get. The other is something you get 100%. Like would you rather walk down detroit at night where you may get mugged or killed, or would you rather just eat your own shotgun shell?
Terrible analogy because actual chances of both are 100%.
COVID is becoming endemic. It is going to be part of our lives now just as influenza is. When I received my first dose the infectious disease doc told us to expect a booster within 6-12 months to address variants.
So you either trust the Chinese bioweapon or you trust the weapon that was built to counter it. Other than that I suppose you could start your own commune in the mountains so you can avoid the virus that has a 0.01% fatality rate.
Chances of both are not 100%.
Perhaps its what you tell yourself as you run out to get this year's flu shot injected into you. More so that than, just because you don't trust something doesn't mean you trust the other thing. Its quite possible they were created in tandem. A thing that is super infectious to go ooga booga to make you get the thing that was really wanted you to get. Or I could whip up a vat full of chemicals and put them in a needle and say "Hey lets inject you with this to fight the viruses! You either trust me or you trust the virus. One or the other!"
I don’t believe it’s a bio weapon. I believe it’s purely a psyop led by the media. The nursing home policies and ventilators caused the big death spike. Also why would congress incentivize covid diagnoses and deaths? None of our response was logical. Everything was designed to cause more harm than necessary.
After watching Info Wars Spars Pandemic over the weekend this whole thing was pre planed, as Alex Jones said it’s like getting a role in a play & we are at chapter 2 with 8 more to go they are telling you what is coming next. People better wake up to this depopulation before it’s to late. Go to banned.viedo and watch this bombshell report.
the COVID death rate is lower than seasonal flu... and I dont get the flu vaccine ever.
This is stupid.
I am absolutely supportive of the vaccine and encourage people to get it.
However I oppose anything that would force people to do so.
But gloating like some tough guy is just pathetic.
Downvote all karma whores!
If enough don't get vaccinated, the virus will hang around for years, mutating.
Maybe when you're 70 you'll catch a hard case and be very sorry for your armchair virologist hubris when younger.
Literally sitting in the waiting area after getting vaccinated at ford field. It's fine.
Men who get the Rona are 3x more likely to have ED.
Well if you're in a high risk group you have to weigh your options to help prevent a potential higher risk of death from hospitalization. I hear the J&J vax is made in the more traditional way vaccines are made. Tell me where I am wrong?
No, the JJ vaccine is a viral vector vaccine that modifies your DNA.
Viral vector vaccines use a living virus to carry out the work of cell nucleus modification.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines us a nanolipid polymer encapsulating layer to deliver mRNA to your cells.
Viral vector vaccines on the other hand use surfactants like polysorbate-80 to breach the cell wall and deposit the virus into the cell.
Here are the ingredients of the J&J vaccine.
Once inside the cell, the adenovirus 26 (the viral vector of the J&J vaccine) will seek out the nucleus of your cell, and inject its DNA (not mRNA) into the nucleus of your cell.
There's some nice visualizing pictures of the process here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html
Basically P & M vaccines work like this:
nanolipid encapsulated mRNA enters cell -> mRNA goes to ribosomes -> ribosomes make COVID spike proteins
the J&J and AZ vaccines work like this:
Surfactants bypass cellular defenses depositing a modified adenovirus 26 inside the cell -> modified adenovirus seeks out nucleus and injects its DNA payload into the nucleus of your cell - > nucleus of your cell now has instructions to produce mRNA to instruct the cell's ribosomes to build COVID spike proteins.
The big difference here is the mRNA vaccine is temporary. Although certainly not good, nor safe, your cellular nucleus remains untouched.
The J&J vaccine however, leaves your cell nucleus modified.
How do cells reproduce? Through a duplicating process called mitosis.
https://biologydictionary.net/mitosis/
During mitosis, the DNA from the cell is basically unzipped, split in two, and two copies of the cell's DNA are created from the original cell.
If the J&J vaccine modifies the nuclei of your cells, and cells duplicate their DNA when reproducing, then the J&J modified cells will continue to duplicate their modified DNA.
It is possible that all cells in your body would then have the modified DNA. If every cell in your body has the same modified DNA, you could then say that your entire DNA has been modified as none of your original DNA is left.
You are now an experimental gene therapy J&J GMO product.
But wouldn't a normal COVID exposure (or any other virus for that matter) essentially do the same thing? Leave your DNA modified? What's the difference?
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91604 Says Viral vector vaccines can't change DNA. Where are they wrong?
I really don't know why I bother because when you write a post the length of a damn book you're not likely to listen, vaccines do change your DNA but so do viruses. Humans have tons of junk DNA.
I am a Biologist with a relative who got FUCKED up from a vaccine reaction that cause a fever and screwed up their developing mind as a kid, I still support Vaccines.
Good news is it's only there to protect you not me. If you don't want it I'm not at risk. Polio, Small Pox, hell even Chicken Pox now are all prevented with Vaccination or have nearly completely been eradicated from vaccination.
For the Covid Vaccine be rushed to availability it did have to bypass safety testing, Trump was who made that possible. I understand being leery of an under tested vaccine but overall Vaccination is a good thing.
The J&J vaccine also hasn't been fully tested.
We know a corona virus vaccine for cats caused immune dependent enhancement making the casts much sicker after encountering the real virus. Another vaccine for a similar virus for people killed a lot of kids in the Philippines for the same reason.
Yea not fully tested is a real troublesome part aside from trying to sort out the BS from the facts with the tremendous amount of confusion out there.
Maybe in the long run safer than mRNA vaccines?
no upvote. If I can't travel, can't shop, if I can't go through life without "papers please", then I will have to. I will relocate to a free land if one exists to avoid this and other illegal nonsense
So you'll leave your brothers and sisters in the fight of our lives? What is with people like you? You must not have much crossover with my bloodline, because if you are in mine for centuries and centuries we fight. We hold the line for real. And only flee when the only other choice is death. You should hurry up and get gone. We're better off without you.
I appreciate the crusade against this "vaccine" but in the long run you know you won't win. They will take everything from you if they have to so you're either forced to or isolated from society permanently
I know absolutely nothing of the kind. I know we will win if we stick together. It sounds like you plan to choose hang separately.
Can't travel when you're stuck in the hospital or die either.
I'll sooner drop bodies than accept them trying to twist my arm at every corner.
Make it hard enough for me and i'll pick a target instead.
if vaccination passporting takes hold I will declare war.
This is the only answer to the vax problem.
Just remember your local nurses and Walmart greeters are at the very, very bottom of this totem pole.