Omg you need to educate. Crimea was always Russian and the people living there want to be part of Russia Crimea voted and chose to return to Russia Obama nor Trump nor anyone has any say on it
The Crimea wanted out because the Ukraine had an unlawful coup (Mossad orchestrated) and it was within it constitution rights to secede but knowing that the Ukraine would militarily occupied it, asked Putin to step in by uniting with the Russian federation. That is exactly what happen and in regards to this, it was the Ukrainians who fired the first.
You know what has me infuriated? That people about me are still pretending that "life has gone back to normal" as "vaccine passports" are being formulated, the "Great Reset" becomes a casual conversational topic, innocent Syrians are dying after several years of "Drumpf" rightfully deciding it was a useless and meaningless farce that preyed upon them for forced profit, the entire American legal system and economy is subverted and decomposing, and China the communist-in-name-but-fascist-in-reality regime plots to take over Taiwan once and for all.
Because, oooh look, their fragile mental health can be alleviated by not being distressed over our global problems being resolved and Hollyweird putting out the latest and shittiest product to consume and distract them from their mental messes and non-issues! Because that takes priority over innocents dying through their taxpayer dollars, why have empathy for those "suckers?"
Why be worried over, say, World War III, when the Internet has so much meaningful culture and distractions (not)?
Or... You could say the US are starting shit up again Ukraine and Crimea.
Inevitable, after getting so involved first time around... And now we know why (Hunter, Burisma).
It is also 2 fronts for Russia to fight on as Syria comes underattack... Again.
Ukraine doesn't need defending . The territories where Russia will annex are all pro Russian and ethnic Russian majority who will welcome the Russians with open arms. They will move in without a fight unless the Ukrainian Military decides to attack Russian forces which is a mistake they will regret. Biden needs to keep his nose out of it because it's none of our business and the regions that Russia will take will be better off afterwards because they are ethnic Russians. Has nothing to do with embolding enemies. More to do with meddling in stuff you shouldnt
It's not the same thing. These lands are populated by ethnic Russians who want to rejoin Russia . They all woke up one day and were told they have to be part of Ukraine. Why does America have any say? They don't. A better analogy would if Russia supported a coup in Texas and then Texas aligns itself wit Russia and now Texas wants to return to the US but Russia keeps funding Nazis and fascist to fight guerilla war against america. Geesh you people see things in such terms where everything that happens in the world has to be attributed to politics that apply to our political discord. If Biden keeps his nose out of it and let's the Ukrainians and Russians solve this among themselves it will be the only thing he's done right. You are all so eager to condemn Biden for something you are not even considering the real issue. Stop supporting Ukraine . That's bama policy. Trump pissed me off when he followed Obama's policy of supporting Ukraine Junta
Your Texas analogy is basically the history of Texas. "They all woke up one day and were Ukrainian". You mean they were CCCP until it collapsed like every communist government does and now they were only Ukrainian. " Let the Ukrainians and Russians solve this" Like Putin did in 2014 and send 1000s of unmarked soldiers and shoot down a Malaysian 777? Obama didnt support Ukraine. Ukraine asked to join NATO and Obama was the main blocking vote. Obama sent blankets when Putin was killing Ukrainians. Trump sent weapons. Where do you live in Russia? I was in Rostov in 2014 when the invasion started.
OMG really? You are regurgitating the very MSM news that you loath . The airliner was shot down by freaking drunk Ukrainians. Not wasting my time with this anymore . Everything you think about this situation is propaganda fed to you by the very same corrupt state dept and media that you loath.
and where do you live Russia? comment is straight out of the Racheal Maddow playbook , you should be proud of yourself. But yes I do have family in both Russia and Ukraine and they all HATE the US installed JUNTA regime. Ukraine did not even exist until Lenin created it.
I voted for Trump and liked Trump but he was not perfect because nobody is. 2 things Trump did that I absolutely did not agree with well 3 . One was supporting the Obama installed Ukraine Junta , the other was bombing Syria on fals flag of chemical weapons attack and the third was selling billions of weapons to Saudi Arabia.
Obama shouldn't have even sent blanket much less weapons . He should have never even incited the coup in the first place with the CIA and state dept meddling. He should have told the Ukrainians and Russians to kiss and make up
I won’t argue all the points you are shotgunning at me except this one. I standby the fact that the SAM came from territory occupied by Russian “ little green men” but a Ukrainian ( ethnic Russian ) could have fired it. But whoever fired it, it was fired because Putin had sent troops into Ukraine.
There are no battles between Russia and Europe. This is all contrived nonsense. Russia gets a long with most of Europe . Its only the NATO and US sticking its nose in Russian border nations and ex-CIS countries with a large Russian population that is the issue. Ukraine , Georgia , Belarus etc.
I challenge you to fly to Crimea go to downtown walk in a cafe and tell them all that they should still be under Ukraine control. You will not make it out alive.
That's not the point. Forget Crimea. That's just an example. It doesn't matter that Crimea wanted to join Russia. It matters that Ukraine freaked out about it and the Biden/Obama talked such a big game about defending Ukraine's sovereignty but did fuck all about it. Biden spent the whole 2020 election cycle smearing Trump as a puppet of Putin and saying Trump withheld aid to the Ukraine (they impeached Trump over it, remember), but when push comes to shove, Biden is all talk.
That's my point. The crimean people are free to join Russia on their own accord. But Biden doesnt get a pass to slander his political opponent (who did far more to defend Ukraine than Obama ever did) as a Russian stooge while being such a pushover himself. That was my only point.
that's what makes the issue so stupid. Over here in America we are having a pissing contest to see which side can do the wrong thing first. Why do American politicians have to prove their medal by competing to who can fuck over Russia the most for no fucking reason other than fucking over Russia makes you look good in the eyes of a bunch of REd Scare Russophobes that use Russia as a scape goat boogey man that is the cause of All our problems sniff sniff. Russia Russia Russia., What did they ever do to us ? think about it
I agree with your point here. With Trump, he was at least supplying Ukraine to maintain the territory it actually legitimately holds. Obama/Biden were bitching about Crimea purely for optics and it mostly picked up in the 2016 election cycle because Trump was viewed as somewhat friendly to Russia.
That's not to say Russia hasn't done stuff to us. They've hit us with a few cyber attacks. We also generally have some competing interests with Russia that could have us stepping on each others toes in the future. But ever since Trump, the demand to be anti-Russia has been far over-inflated. I remember when Romney got dinged by Obama in 2012 for having "outdated cold-war thinking" for saying Russia is a threat to the US. I remember when Clinton sold out uranium to Russia. I remember when Obama promised Russia "more flexibility" after the 2012 election. Russia, is frankly the geopolitical step-child issue of US foreign policy debate. Up until 2016, we were dating to look at Russia in terms of increasingly normalized ties. Frankly, the political left was willing to sacrifice all that to smear Trump, and the Neocon right went along with it because they hate Trump. And Trump acquiesced somewhat to it, so as to not upset some of his necessary political allyships.
Well no shit.
US military is run by women and trannies who want o be inclusive.
What does Russia have to fear lol
I'm pretty sure the deep state has been pushing for a war with russia for a looooong time.
bingo
Obama gave them Crimea, why would he not give them Ukraine?
Omg you need to educate. Crimea was always Russian and the people living there want to be part of Russia Crimea voted and chose to return to Russia Obama nor Trump nor anyone has any say on it
No one here has any say in Europe period. IDGAF if Russia takes it all over
The Crimea wanted out because the Ukraine had an unlawful coup (Mossad orchestrated) and it was within it constitution rights to secede but knowing that the Ukraine would militarily occupied it, asked Putin to step in by uniting with the Russian federation. That is exactly what happen and in regards to this, it was the Ukrainians who fired the first.
Victoria Nuland and John McCain and Biden orchestrated.
I suspect China wouldn't mind Russia-US bogged down while they continue to strengthen.
BuT dRuMpF wAs A rUsSiAn PuPpEt
You know what has me infuriated? That people about me are still pretending that "life has gone back to normal" as "vaccine passports" are being formulated, the "Great Reset" becomes a casual conversational topic, innocent Syrians are dying after several years of "Drumpf" rightfully deciding it was a useless and meaningless farce that preyed upon them for forced profit, the entire American legal system and economy is subverted and decomposing, and China the communist-in-name-but-fascist-in-reality regime plots to take over Taiwan once and for all.
Because, oooh look, their fragile mental health can be alleviated by not being distressed over our global problems being resolved and Hollyweird putting out the latest and shittiest product to consume and distract them from their mental messes and non-issues! Because that takes priority over innocents dying through their taxpayer dollars, why have empathy for those "suckers?"
Why be worried over, say, World War III, when the Internet has so much meaningful culture and distractions (not)?
Fuck.
Taiwan will be invaded before Biden’s first term is over
Or... You could say the US are starting shit up again Ukraine and Crimea. Inevitable, after getting so involved first time around... And now we know why (Hunter, Burisma). It is also 2 fronts for Russia to fight on as Syria comes underattack... Again.
True
It will only be ww3 if we invade Russia
Or defend Ukraine. Which Biden said he would do.
Ukraine doesn't need defending . The territories where Russia will annex are all pro Russian and ethnic Russian majority who will welcome the Russians with open arms. They will move in without a fight unless the Ukrainian Military decides to attack Russian forces which is a mistake they will regret. Biden needs to keep his nose out of it because it's none of our business and the regions that Russia will take will be better off afterwards because they are ethnic Russians. Has nothing to do with embolding enemies. More to do with meddling in stuff you shouldnt
Syria didn't "need our involvement" but TPTB/the Kabal just see too much profit in the matter to deem it worth artificially stoking.
So the Mexican army can take California and Texas without fear? That’s not how countries work.
It's not the same thing. These lands are populated by ethnic Russians who want to rejoin Russia . They all woke up one day and were told they have to be part of Ukraine. Why does America have any say? They don't. A better analogy would if Russia supported a coup in Texas and then Texas aligns itself wit Russia and now Texas wants to return to the US but Russia keeps funding Nazis and fascist to fight guerilla war against america. Geesh you people see things in such terms where everything that happens in the world has to be attributed to politics that apply to our political discord. If Biden keeps his nose out of it and let's the Ukrainians and Russians solve this among themselves it will be the only thing he's done right. You are all so eager to condemn Biden for something you are not even considering the real issue. Stop supporting Ukraine . That's bama policy. Trump pissed me off when he followed Obama's policy of supporting Ukraine Junta
Your Texas analogy is basically the history of Texas. "They all woke up one day and were Ukrainian". You mean they were CCCP until it collapsed like every communist government does and now they were only Ukrainian. " Let the Ukrainians and Russians solve this" Like Putin did in 2014 and send 1000s of unmarked soldiers and shoot down a Malaysian 777? Obama didnt support Ukraine. Ukraine asked to join NATO and Obama was the main blocking vote. Obama sent blankets when Putin was killing Ukrainians. Trump sent weapons. Where do you live in Russia? I was in Rostov in 2014 when the invasion started.
OMG really? You are regurgitating the very MSM news that you loath . The airliner was shot down by freaking drunk Ukrainians. Not wasting my time with this anymore . Everything you think about this situation is propaganda fed to you by the very same corrupt state dept and media that you loath.
and where do you live Russia? comment is straight out of the Racheal Maddow playbook , you should be proud of yourself. But yes I do have family in both Russia and Ukraine and they all HATE the US installed JUNTA regime. Ukraine did not even exist until Lenin created it.
I voted for Trump and liked Trump but he was not perfect because nobody is. 2 things Trump did that I absolutely did not agree with well 3 . One was supporting the Obama installed Ukraine Junta , the other was bombing Syria on fals flag of chemical weapons attack and the third was selling billions of weapons to Saudi Arabia.
Obama shouldn't have even sent blanket much less weapons . He should have never even incited the coup in the first place with the CIA and state dept meddling. He should have told the Ukrainians and Russians to kiss and make up
I won’t argue all the points you are shotgunning at me except this one. I standby the fact that the SAM came from territory occupied by Russian “ little green men” but a Ukrainian ( ethnic Russian ) could have fired it. But whoever fired it, it was fired because Putin had sent troops into Ukraine.
Mexican armies or the Cartels ?
Is there a difference?
Exactly my point, let’s not let the Cartels off easy
Which we shouldn’t. Russia and Europe can fight their own battles now. We have too many trannies and traitors in our military to be of any use
There are no battles between Russia and Europe. This is all contrived nonsense. Russia gets a long with most of Europe . Its only the NATO and US sticking its nose in Russian border nations and ex-CIS countries with a large Russian population that is the issue. Ukraine , Georgia , Belarus etc.
I sure as hell won’t fight in a war against them. Send the soys
Russians didn't start shit no that was Biden and his thugs
Serious question. How much worse would it actually be if Russia today took over?
Compare Crimea to rest of Ukraine. Crimea is a hot spot tourist destination with luxury resorts and Ukraine is an impoverished shit hole
They probably have more freedoms than us at this point
the real war is already being waged against Americans by the commies in OUR own country
This is Crimea under Obama all over again
I challenge you to fly to Crimea go to downtown walk in a cafe and tell them all that they should still be under Ukraine control. You will not make it out alive.
Send in the transvestite platoon!
pravda...dasvidania
Putin please come save us!!!
Russia won't start WW3. They'll just annex Donbas Ukraine because the last time Biden was in the white house, they got crimea without a fuss.
Again Crimea voted to rejoin Russia. It was Crimeas choice
That's not the point. Forget Crimea. That's just an example. It doesn't matter that Crimea wanted to join Russia. It matters that Ukraine freaked out about it and the Biden/Obama talked such a big game about defending Ukraine's sovereignty but did fuck all about it. Biden spent the whole 2020 election cycle smearing Trump as a puppet of Putin and saying Trump withheld aid to the Ukraine (they impeached Trump over it, remember), but when push comes to shove, Biden is all talk.
That's my point. The crimean people are free to join Russia on their own accord. But Biden doesnt get a pass to slander his political opponent (who did far more to defend Ukraine than Obama ever did) as a Russian stooge while being such a pushover himself. That was my only point.
that's what makes the issue so stupid. Over here in America we are having a pissing contest to see which side can do the wrong thing first. Why do American politicians have to prove their medal by competing to who can fuck over Russia the most for no fucking reason other than fucking over Russia makes you look good in the eyes of a bunch of REd Scare Russophobes that use Russia as a scape goat boogey man that is the cause of All our problems sniff sniff. Russia Russia Russia., What did they ever do to us ? think about it
I agree with your point here. With Trump, he was at least supplying Ukraine to maintain the territory it actually legitimately holds. Obama/Biden were bitching about Crimea purely for optics and it mostly picked up in the 2016 election cycle because Trump was viewed as somewhat friendly to Russia.
That's not to say Russia hasn't done stuff to us. They've hit us with a few cyber attacks. We also generally have some competing interests with Russia that could have us stepping on each others toes in the future. But ever since Trump, the demand to be anti-Russia has been far over-inflated. I remember when Romney got dinged by Obama in 2012 for having "outdated cold-war thinking" for saying Russia is a threat to the US. I remember when Clinton sold out uranium to Russia. I remember when Obama promised Russia "more flexibility" after the 2012 election. Russia, is frankly the geopolitical step-child issue of US foreign policy debate. Up until 2016, we were dating to look at Russia in terms of increasingly normalized ties. Frankly, the political left was willing to sacrifice all that to smear Trump, and the Neocon right went along with it because they hate Trump. And Trump acquiesced somewhat to it, so as to not upset some of his necessary political allyships.