I think we're going about the voter ID problem backwards. We argue that we need voter ID, people claim it's discriminatory against low income minorities, and therefore racist.
So fuck it. Don't mention voting. Let's start a HARD PUSH for free state IDs. Doesn't have to be fancy. Doesn't have to be a driver's license. Just a push for a FREE ID that meets all minimum government issued ID requirements.
It's easy, we just gave BILLIONS of dollars in foreign aid to other countries in our "COVID bill." Just one billion of those dollars would buy a Texas Driver's license for all 330 million Americans 3 times over. We can surely afford as a country paying for a basic government ID.
A basic ID in Texas is $16. That's HALF the cost of a DL. Let's do THAT. Don't talk about voter ID, REMOVE the obstruction. Make a CLEAN argument that no one can object to.
"It's impossible to exist without a government issued ID, so a minimum ID should be provided free of charge by your state government. Driver's license still costs."
Liberals and Democrats CAN'T argue with it, because it's "gimme gimme" and Conservatives/Republicans shouldn't argue with it because it cleanly removes the biggest and only hurtle to Voter ID.
What do you guys think?
You know why many blacks don’t get IDs? Because they have outstanding warrants and they don’t want to be arrested at the DMV. Simple as.
Dems call this racist but what it is, is deadbeat fugitives evading justice. Time to clean up your community, black peoples. Get good or stay mad.
There are not "many blacks" who don't have IDs though. That's a meme.
You know that, I know that. BLACK people know that. But that doesn't make the argument go away. I had a black guy tell me this MORNING that he assumes everyone he knows has an ID - but that doesn't mean those people don't exist.
OK - fine. Let's solve that problem. If there's a program in place that takes care of it - then they can't use it as an argument anymore.
I appreciate your approach, logical and effective. But the problem isn't lack of public support.
The problem is lack of elected officials willing to enact the will of their constituents instead of their overlords.
So we start small. Maybe we can get some cities on board to make this a thing in their area. Get some charities involved. Something, anything. Isn't that how grassroots works?
Lobby the city to provide free bus rides to the DMV with proof of an appointment. Get some charity to provide cash reimbursements for a printed receipt from the DMV. Hell, get the city to provide a bus credit in the amount of the DMV fee PLUS a round trip ride there.
Start small, make it big enough that it can't be ignored. Make it so that either side ignoring it looks nonsensical.
That is a completely valid point. But not one that I think lefties are prepared to put on paper. They may think it, we may agree - it's not one that they can make out loud because it makes them sound racist (which they of course are)
This problem would cease to exist if your voter ID was good for a 50% discount on malt liquor, up to $10, good only after voting, and only on election days.
I like this, alongside the vaccine passports are racist idea. Then of course, the lib’s head goes into a knot because xir would wonder how minorities would be smart enough to get the shot but not a basic ID card.
I actually had someone argue this morning that it's OK to require ID for any financial transaction, but shouldn't be to vote.
That's where I got this idea from. OK. So let's make this problem just GO AWAY bey removing the obstructions to getting an ID.
Also, don’t you need an ID to get the shot? Here in Chicago you have to show an ID proving you are 65 or over to get the shot at clinics.
Right. So as much as lefties argue that "healthcare is a human right" they shouldn't be able to argue against it.
i think this is already available in most states. which makes their stupid arguments agains ID even more stupid.
then let's double down. let's give people "help" in navigating how to do it.
I'll go on record and say that I had to help my grandfather navigate the new ID requirements. He's in his 90s and doesn't have a birth certificate, so he couldn't get his license renewed. But we found the right paperwork to make that happen. Thankfully he has quit driving. but his story is not unique. Plenty of old folks born out in the sticks don't have the right paperwork to get the is new fed ID star on their drivers license. So they need help figuring out how.
Same thing with my late mother. She was declining and unsafe to drive. When her DL expired, we didn't try to renew, but got her a State ID, that she could use at doctor appointments, voting etc. It cost us like $18. But it should be FREE for everyone.
With ID being required for so many things, I agree, it should be FREE nationwide. Wouldn't cost jack shit to implement, then they'd have no fucking argument or excuses.
Exactly. We've watched the left do one thing after another to advance their agenda. We need to start doing the same. Let's start removing obstacles to achieving OUR agendas. And in ways that they can't argue against.
And going further, renewals of the ID - say every 5-7 years like a DL, should ALSO be free. In addition, if people complain they do not have or can't afford to pay for transportation to their local DMV's to obtain an ID- they could have a small fleet of "ID" busses...web connected, print out ID's right on the spot and send them into poor neighborhoods, so they go walk outside and can get an ID for FREE. They fucking use them to sign up new voters don't they? Repurpose those busses to distribute verified ID's.
And that whole thing would costs peanuts to run, in light of so many fucking pork projects.
ABSOLUTELY! They could do vouchers for transportation. Just like Uber was doing for voting. Need to ride the bus to the DMV? Sure. Just make an appointment online and get a voucher to ride the bus. Or pay for the bus ride and let the DMV give you a voucher to get back home, plus another free ride after that to make up for the one you paid for.
Yep! Many different ways to come at this. Although, some people may say they do not have "online", hence the neighborhood ID Busses.
I just came up with the idea to have a city bus give "ride credit" in the amount of the DMV fee PLUS the round trip cost. That makes it a zero dollar expense for the citizen.
If you can get there and back and pay the fee, the bus system will give you that total cost back in credit. Then there's no pre-requisite for doing any online stuff beforehand.