Yes, much room for variations in translation. As far as Camel riders go I responded because a Jockey would be someone of some status while Mohamed was more of a raggedy Camel tender with a switch. With the Camels loaded Mohamed would just walk alongside, with likely the only rider the caravan owner. He was pretty much of a nobody until he married into money. But yes, languages can be misunderstood. Like in Spanish a Caballero. A horseman of distinction who is a "gentleman". Verses a Vaquero who is also a horseman but a lowly "cowboy". Both are horseman, but a world apart. Another twist in languages that will upset a Muslim is the promise in the Koran of 72 virgins if you die in the service of Islam a martyr. But the word "hur" for virgins in the Aramaic language also meant "white grapes" which were a delicacy of the times. 72 white grapes could disappoint a lot of people !
I see, and that makes a lot of sense... I only attempted the joke because camel jockey is a comical epithet towards arab people, and I was trying to make a funny. Also, how pissed would some dipshit suicide vest prick be if all he got for blowing himself up was a bowl of grapes lol
A lot of funny stuff about Islam, but also serious results that have killed untold numbers. At the time of Mohamed Arabs were basically uneducated and literally stone, and Moon worshipers. It took little to influence them with an invented religion to control them. Even today their most holy icon is a black rock that fell from the sky. "a meteorite". Not just Mohamed but others used that ignorance to create armies with promises of paradise, and rewards. A deadly example was Hassen-i Sabbath, a Shia Muslim also known as (The Old Man of the Mountain) that created his Syrian Nizari cult of Assassins. His Castle had a secret garden in the hills with secret passages. A lush garden with fruit trees, fountains, "virgin" girls, and all manner of food, and treats. He would bring in young men drug them with hashish, and in a drugged state induce them into his garden for a couple days. He told them that they had been in paradise, and if they served him, and died that would be their home forever. His assassins were so deadly, and willing to die doing there assignments that Muslim kings, and rich men paid ransom under threats of death after many had been killed by his assassins. A long story but just an example of how a few smart, and tricky Arabs could manipulate the primitive masses with rewards, or threats of death.
Yes, much room for variations in translation. As far as Camel riders go I responded because a Jockey would be someone of some status while Mohamed was more of a raggedy Camel tender with a switch. With the Camels loaded Mohamed would just walk alongside, with likely the only rider the caravan owner. He was pretty much of a nobody until he married into money. But yes, languages can be misunderstood. Like in Spanish a Caballero. A horseman of distinction who is a "gentleman". Verses a Vaquero who is also a horseman but a lowly "cowboy". Both are horseman, but a world apart. Another twist in languages that will upset a Muslim is the promise in the Koran of 72 virgins if you die in the service of Islam a martyr. But the word "hur" for virgins in the Aramaic language also meant "white grapes" which were a delicacy of the times. 72 white grapes could disappoint a lot of people !
I see, and that makes a lot of sense... I only attempted the joke because camel jockey is a comical epithet towards arab people, and I was trying to make a funny. Also, how pissed would some dipshit suicide vest prick be if all he got for blowing himself up was a bowl of grapes lol
A lot of funny stuff about Islam, but also serious results that have killed untold numbers. At the time of Mohamed Arabs were basically uneducated and literally stone, and Moon worshipers. It took little to influence them with an invented religion to control them. Even today their most holy icon is a black rock that fell from the sky. "a meteorite". Not just Mohamed but others used that ignorance to create armies with promises of paradise, and rewards. A deadly example was Hassen-i Sabbath, a Shia Muslim also known as (The Old Man of the Mountain) that created his Syrian Nizari cult of Assassins. His Castle had a secret garden in the hills with secret passages. A lush garden with fruit trees, fountains, "virgin" girls, and all manner of food, and treats. He would bring in young men drug them with hashish, and in a drugged state induce them into his garden for a couple days. He told them that they had been in paradise, and if they served him, and died that would be their home forever. His assassins were so deadly, and willing to die doing there assignments that Muslim kings, and rich men paid ransom under threats of death after many had been killed by his assassins. A long story but just an example of how a few smart, and tricky Arabs could manipulate the primitive masses with rewards, or threats of death.