it's a little ironic seeing as how the ass beating generation are the one's who invented the time out. The only objective logical conclusion being that neither method actually "works."
Perhaps the real culprit causing shittier less disciplined people is the lack of two parent households. The phrase "wait til your father gets home" is what should make the difference... not sure it really matters whether he takes his belt off or gives me a stern talking to.
In my family, the ‘wait til your father gets home’ caused us to run in our rooms and giggle because we knew we were off the hook. My dad was a rough, hard working, hulk of a man but gentle as a lamb. However, if he said no or gently corrected us, we did not make a peep. We just knew that was that for some reason. He barely popped me on the bottom once because I was hanging on a cabinet door and I cried for two hours. Not because it hurt but because it broke my heart that I had disappointed him.
I had a very similar relationship with my dad. If we acted up we would get a stern talking to, or at most a pinch on the ear. Just knowing that we disappointed him was enough to straighten us out. He's probably to best father you could ask for.
My dad is pretty great. Beat my ass a number of times. Belt, hand. I needed it. I was a shit.
I think having a dad willing to do what's necessary to teach some discipline is more important than what needs to be done for the kid to learn that discipline. Some kids learn certain lessons easier than others. Some kids (me) are stubborn dick heads that need fairly constant reminders that there are actual physical consequences for being a stubborn dick head.
With my dad it varied by the situation. Sometimes grounded, sometimes stern talking to, sometimes spanking. I never knew what to expect. One time I got the belt even.
Here here. If you don't have a strong bond in the family, your father being upset or disappointed with you doesn't matter. Once that bond breaks down, nothing matters. Children are vulnerable and need that stability at home.
Make your marriage work, pedes. Do whatever it takes until the kids are grown, for their sake.
Also isn't accurate. Productivity is significantly up. If the ass beating generation wants to bring up the generational conversation, they should probably be answering why they spent so much of the future economic production on themselves in the short term while they implemented communism.
You have no clue what productivity means. Productivity is the economic value produced per hour of labor. Technology is the greatest driver of increased productivity.
Productivity exponentially increased during the industrial revolution, that doesn't mean the people who were born later worked any harder or smarter. Vast amounts of wealth are created autonomously nowadays. People pay Google every time someone clicks on an ad, and their is virtually no labor involved.Same with SAAS, recurring revenue business model, with low labor costs.
It would be nice if people in your generation could do enough research to know what the hell they are talking about before posting comments.
FYI, Don't take the last comment to hard, I was just responding in kind to your comment. their are good and bad people in every generation and in every race. But you are severely misinformed. Deficit spending in the government didn't really blow up until about 20 years ago. 35 years ago, credit cards were not really a thing, if people didn't have the money in the bank to buy something, they didn't.
The government measures debt incorrectly. If you or I sign contracts or create policies that pay out trillions of dollars via db pension or welfare, we're trillions of dollars in debt. The debt problem we have today was created by promises made yesterday; they just don't put it on the balance sheet until the payment is due.
You're right that I was being disingenuous by ignoring technology as a component of production.
It really depends on the child and the home environment. I hit my oldest son a total of 3 times, the next 2 children I never hit and they turned out fine. Frankly, my youngest child gets more disturbed just by seeing he disappointing me than my oldest got when I spanked him.
Almost like situations and individuals are unique or something. The idea that you ever have to hit your child is absurd, but so is the idea that you should never do it under any circumstances no matter what.
I've never met a black single mother who wasn't extremely violent with their kids.
You can't have it both ways. In the context of a solid unbringing, you can certainly physically discipline your kids when they deserve it. That's the biblical prescription. To simply hit your kids for the sake of hitting them, while at the same time failing in every other aspect of morality and discipline yourself, is probably not going to help.
Right so there is a lot of shit in the Bible that is absolutely unacceptable when it comes to raising children, like selling them into slavery.
But "ass beating" like spanking is perfectly acceptable for kids to young to understand why what they did was wrong. Once a child is old enough to understand the why's if all they get is a spanking and no lesson all they will learn is that they need to figure out how to not get cought.
Oh I definitely do not believe it. Look you are free to believe it all you want I am not trying to attack your religion. I'm jusy saying a book with things like this:
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.(A) 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
-Exodus 21:7-11
Might not be the best place to find literal paranting advice or be used as a source for literal paranting advice.
Got it: you don't believe because you lack a historical perspective on government and law. Even if this judgment didn't exist, and God said nothing about how a daughter must be treated in even the most difficult legal circumstances, an unbeliever would find some other reason to accuse God of doing ill when He is doing good.
you don't believe because you lack a historical perspective on government and law
You literally no nothing about be other then the fact that I'm an atheist. Stop making assumptions, for all yoh know I was raised strict catholic and used to be a priest. Learn how to have a friendly conversation with people who disagree with you and fuck off.
I hate arguing theology with people whose knowledge of religion is limited to quotes out of context taking on from websites. "Selling ones daughter" was not the slavery you think of. It was more akin to a dowry for marriage, the person who "bought her" was under very strict rules on how to treat her, and was expected to either marry her, or have his son marry her.
As far as whether it is right for a father to "marry off" his daughter, in the economy of those days, where physical strength was per-requisite for survival, a girl being married off was essential to secure her future. It was expected for the parents to make the right decision to benefit their child, like parents throughout history have always been responsible for making many decisions for their children
It was more akin to a dowry for marriage, the person who "bought her" was under very strict rules on how to treat her, and was expected to either marry her, or have his son marry her.
it's the "daycare" generation where he/she who screams loudest gets attention, lack of parental guidance and presence (since the mother is stronk independent wahman)
I'm not entirely against hitting, it has its place for real serious shit. However, smacking your kids around for every little thing that they do that's out of line is bullshit parenting.
Agreed. I know a many of people who think a belt to the butt is equal to "Child Abuse". I think having broken bones are quite a bit different than your butt hurting for 5 or 10 minutes because you punched your Brother.
Bullshit. You teach that by making them work for things they want, how to stand up for themselves, by instilling discipline in them, by punishing them when they do wrong, by teaching them the difference between right and wrong, churching them, and leading by example. Not by beating the shit out of them. You’re a grown ass adult. If you can’t control your kids without hitting them, you’ve got the problem.
Yeah. Looks like someone is just a worthless lazy dumb person who likes hurting children because it’s the only way he can control them. Lot of people get off on doing that. Makes them feel powerful. Send my condolences to your kids. Or do you even have any in the first place?
Seriously. You are one confusing dude. I can tell your intelligent. And reading through some of your posts, I agree with you on so many things. Do you just enjoy having attitude? So many of your comments are right on the mark. Except the response to me. Haha. But you’re so hostile. What gives?
My parents didn’t need to hit us when we misbehaved! All my mother had to do was give us a look and we immediately stopped! Italian mothers know how to discipline without lifting a finger!
Had it from my Italian father and yeah, sure, I know I didn't do stuff because I'd be scared I'd get my ass beat, but let's be honest, most situations are better handled with alternative methods of discipline.
The Nose in Corner method only works if you stand there and watch them.
I can tell you, many people I know either need to be heavily medicated with Sedatives or Anti Depressants. OR need a Belt once in a while.
For example those 2 Girls who killed the Uber Eats Driver. I'm willing to bet they never gotten a Belt to the Ass. They have never known serious consequences, and as a result have no fear of committing wrong.
Competent and proportional disciplinary action to train discretion, moral fiber, making good choices, right and wrong stuff to do.
Set high expectations and enforce them, but also encourage good behavior by responding with lots of praise. Kids need to know what to do and get excited about knowing they're doing the right thing. Walking on eggshells all the time also sucks ass for a kid.
A swat never hurt anyone. A proper over-the-knee spanking never did either. What I've never understood is people who insist on having discussions with toddlers. The age of reason is rightly called that. A two- or three-year-old hasn't gotten there. I was spanked four or five times by my father. He always said why. When I was about 14 he back-handed me for mouthing off. Good for him. After that I stuck with mumbling :) Getting sent to my room was no biggie--always have been a bookworm, so I'd just read. My brother, OTOH, was crushed by getting sent to his room. He wanted to be out w/ his pals. Spanking? Sure--get it over so he could head back out!
The “ass beating” generation sold out american manufacturing to foreign countries, started all the gun control bullshit we currently have to deal with, sold out our cities to international real estate investors, and invented the concept of globalism. Fuck you boomer faggots
The self esteem movement has produced a lot of adults who are still children. They were raised thinking they're special and everything they do is special. They got trophies for not putting in any effort to succeed.
Now that they're adults, they're finding that they're not special and that you have to put in the effort to succeed. Rather than accepting these things, they're demanding that society and government change to make everyone special and give trophies to everyone.
Far from an "ass beating", a good old fashioned "spanking" always worked for me. Not a torrent of them, 5 or so good whacks was plenty. Heck, my Mom used to give me the Spock shoulder pinch in public and that was enough to straighten me out. I knew I had stepped out of line when that happened. It normally happened a an hour into grocery shopping or something equally as boring.
It has nothing to do with whether you hit your kids or not. That's irrelevant. The difference between generations is CULTURAL.
Parents used to instill discipline in their children, but in comes the boomers and a literal epidemic of divorce and a generation of kids who grew up without their fathers in the home and what do you know? All of a sudden we have a generation of adults who behave like assholes.
For the record, I am a firm believer in discipline, but hitting a child is fucking stupid. It's counter productive because it doesn't teach "discipline" it teaches fear, for a very brief period of time, then the dynamic changes and can go many different ways - few of them good.
I grew up with a boomer father and I recall the last time he tried to spank me. I laughed in his face and it crushed his spirit. He based his entire concept of the father-son power dynamic on being able to overpower me and intimidate me and when he realized he could no longer do either, our relationship, which was already badly broken, turned dead. Never recovered, either.
Participation trophies, I Voted stickers, social media likes and followers, vaccination cards, etc. The things these people do for attention and fake gratification has fucked over 2-3 generations of Americans
"Spare the rod, spoil the child." I think it is timing. If you were beaten and have kids before you learned to appreciate that being a stern disciplinarian on children prepares them for the real world. If you spoil your kids, you fail them whether beaten or not.
One of the scariest things I ever heard growing up was, "Go out to the tree and cut me a switch" and my Dad would hand me a saw. Then he'd stand there and watch. As a kid, you always wanted the smallest switch thinking it'd hurt less. You quickly learned otherwise.
when i misbehaved, my mom would open the oven, pick me up, hold me at the opening, acting like she was about to throw me in, all the while telling me to stop being a little shit. dude, i can remember the intense fear like it was yesterday. i was screaming my ass off.
Divide people against each other based on age? Okay, let's play. So previous generations were beating their children and feeling morally superior about it while they allowed the 1965 immigration act along with letting socialists infiltrate every institution. There was no country left by the time the "time out" generation was raised by the beaten-children generation. The greatest generation wrecked Europe and supported the New Deal and the Federal Reserve to wreck the economy at home, hamstringing western civilization and then raising hordes of hippies to disintegrate the culture. All of that and the only thing you can lament is that your children were not beaten enough.
Ass beatings work when used only when needed. I got those. Too much and you become ammune. I never got too much but mine may have been more real. Today’s kids need it a little but have enough to
Take away to do the job. I’m not against some physical stuff. I’m against doing away with bullying. It can get out it hand but I credit my bullying with making me a man. What we need a lot more of is child labor. I grew up farming on a small scale. It was chores. I wasn’t abused or anything. We worked and earned. Our first cars we had to maintain. It’s not as easy to get a cheap starter car today after cash for clunkers but I think kids now are a product of easy times. Parents put kids in front of LCD pacifiers instead of teaching them. It’s super easy with YouTube available to each them whatever you sang for now. Instead, parents want to play Xbox for 3 hours a day instead of being parents. Be parents.
From what I have seen, parents don't want to upset their kids, they want to be their friend first. That just doesn't work. They need boundaries that only their parents can provide. Be their parent first.
Physically harming a child is never the right thing to do. If you can’t control your child without inflicting pain on them, YOU are the one with the problem. I’ve locked my kid in the bathroom for a few minutes, (I was standing there the whole time and the door wasn’t really locked) I’ve grabbed upper arms many times. I’ve swatted a bottom or two when they ran in in the street as toddlers. Ive chased them with a switch but didn’t use it. I’ve taken away privileges when they were older. I’ve had to get into a couple of teenagers faces many times. I’ve screamed at them in anger. I’ve been so angry at times I’ve wanted to beat the shit out of them. But they grew up to be fine adults. hitting them with an object, or hard enough to leave a mark is out of the question. I have boys and girls of all different personalities. Parenting is tough. It’s hard to keep your temper. I sure as HELL wasn’t a perfect parent. And my kids were absolutely not perfect. But hitting kids is never the answer. I’m a mother but my husband felt the same way.
it's a little ironic seeing as how the ass beating generation are the one's who invented the time out. The only objective logical conclusion being that neither method actually "works."
Perhaps the real culprit causing shittier less disciplined people is the lack of two parent households. The phrase "wait til your father gets home" is what should make the difference... not sure it really matters whether he takes his belt off or gives me a stern talking to.
In my family, the ‘wait til your father gets home’ caused us to run in our rooms and giggle because we knew we were off the hook. My dad was a rough, hard working, hulk of a man but gentle as a lamb. However, if he said no or gently corrected us, we did not make a peep. We just knew that was that for some reason. He barely popped me on the bottom once because I was hanging on a cabinet door and I cried for two hours. Not because it hurt but because it broke my heart that I had disappointed him.
I had a very similar relationship with my dad. If we acted up we would get a stern talking to, or at most a pinch on the ear. Just knowing that we disappointed him was enough to straighten us out. He's probably to best father you could ask for.
My dad is pretty great. Beat my ass a number of times. Belt, hand. I needed it. I was a shit.
I think having a dad willing to do what's necessary to teach some discipline is more important than what needs to be done for the kid to learn that discipline. Some kids learn certain lessons easier than others. Some kids (me) are stubborn dick heads that need fairly constant reminders that there are actual physical consequences for being a stubborn dick head.
Isn’t love and respect amazing!
With my dad it varied by the situation. Sometimes grounded, sometimes stern talking to, sometimes spanking. I never knew what to expect. One time I got the belt even.
Here here. If you don't have a strong bond in the family, your father being upset or disappointed with you doesn't matter. Once that bond breaks down, nothing matters. Children are vulnerable and need that stability at home.
Make your marriage work, pedes. Do whatever it takes until the kids are grown, for their sake.
IMO it's really in the hierarchy of the order of life.
God>Christ>Man>Woman>Child
There's really no other way for it to work out properly.
Don't know why the downvotes, this is a perfectly reasonable statement.
Also isn't accurate. Productivity is significantly up. If the ass beating generation wants to bring up the generational conversation, they should probably be answering why they spent so much of the future economic production on themselves in the short term while they implemented communism.
You have no clue what productivity means. Productivity is the economic value produced per hour of labor. Technology is the greatest driver of increased productivity.
Productivity exponentially increased during the industrial revolution, that doesn't mean the people who were born later worked any harder or smarter. Vast amounts of wealth are created autonomously nowadays. People pay Google every time someone clicks on an ad, and their is virtually no labor involved.Same with SAAS, recurring revenue business model, with low labor costs.
It would be nice if people in your generation could do enough research to know what the hell they are talking about before posting comments.
FYI, Don't take the last comment to hard, I was just responding in kind to your comment. their are good and bad people in every generation and in every race. But you are severely misinformed. Deficit spending in the government didn't really blow up until about 20 years ago. 35 years ago, credit cards were not really a thing, if people didn't have the money in the bank to buy something, they didn't.
The government measures debt incorrectly. If you or I sign contracts or create policies that pay out trillions of dollars via db pension or welfare, we're trillions of dollars in debt. The debt problem we have today was created by promises made yesterday; they just don't put it on the balance sheet until the payment is due.
You're right that I was being disingenuous by ignoring technology as a component of production.
It really depends on the child and the home environment. I hit my oldest son a total of 3 times, the next 2 children I never hit and they turned out fine. Frankly, my youngest child gets more disturbed just by seeing he disappointing me than my oldest got when I spanked him.
Almost like situations and individuals are unique or something. The idea that you ever have to hit your child is absurd, but so is the idea that you should never do it under any circumstances no matter what.
It's very tempting to call your logical conclusion bullshit.
But, since you make a good point later, I won't.
"Ass beating" works, period. See the Bible.
Regular old "ass beatings" always work. But the abuse that happens in single-mom households, under the guise of "ass beatings", does not work.
Dad plus "ass beatings" works every time.
I've never met a black single mother who wasn't extremely violent with their kids.
You can't have it both ways. In the context of a solid unbringing, you can certainly physically discipline your kids when they deserve it. That's the biblical prescription. To simply hit your kids for the sake of hitting them, while at the same time failing in every other aspect of morality and discipline yourself, is probably not going to help.
Right so there is a lot of shit in the Bible that is absolutely unacceptable when it comes to raising children, like selling them into slavery.
But "ass beating" like spanking is perfectly acceptable for kids to young to understand why what they did was wrong. Once a child is old enough to understand the why's if all they get is a spanking and no lesson all they will learn is that they need to figure out how to not get cought.
Stop lying. There isn't "a lot of shit ... that is absolutely unacceptable when it comes to raising children...".
You simply haven't read or believed it.
Oh I definitely do not believe it. Look you are free to believe it all you want I am not trying to attack your religion. I'm jusy saying a book with things like this:
-Exodus 21:7-11
Might not be the best place to find literal paranting advice or be used as a source for literal paranting advice.
Got it: you don't believe because you lack a historical perspective on government and law. Even if this judgment didn't exist, and God said nothing about how a daughter must be treated in even the most difficult legal circumstances, an unbeliever would find some other reason to accuse God of doing ill when He is doing good.
You literally no nothing about be other then the fact that I'm an atheist. Stop making assumptions, for all yoh know I was raised strict catholic and used to be a priest. Learn how to have a friendly conversation with people who disagree with you and fuck off.
I hate arguing theology with people whose knowledge of religion is limited to quotes out of context taking on from websites. "Selling ones daughter" was not the slavery you think of. It was more akin to a dowry for marriage, the person who "bought her" was under very strict rules on how to treat her, and was expected to either marry her, or have his son marry her.
As far as whether it is right for a father to "marry off" his daughter, in the economy of those days, where physical strength was per-requisite for survival, a girl being married off was essential to secure her future. It was expected for the parents to make the right decision to benefit their child, like parents throughout history have always been responsible for making many decisions for their children
And you think THAT is acceptable today?
I know you likely have ADD, but try to make it to the end of my previous comment
it's the "daycare" generation where he/she who screams loudest gets attention, lack of parental guidance and presence (since the mother is stronk independent wahman)
Probably the more accurate reasoning.
I'm not entirely against hitting, it has its place for real serious shit. However, smacking your kids around for every little thing that they do that's out of line is bullshit parenting.
the world doesn't put you in time out when you fuck with it. the world punches you in the mouth
if you didn't adequately instill that in your children with liberal application of the belt when necessary then you've failed as a parent
Agreed. I know a many of people who think a belt to the butt is equal to "Child Abuse". I think having broken bones are quite a bit different than your butt hurting for 5 or 10 minutes because you punched your Brother.
Bullshit. You teach that by making them work for things they want, how to stand up for themselves, by instilling discipline in them, by punishing them when they do wrong, by teaching them the difference between right and wrong, churching them, and leading by example. Not by beating the shit out of them. You’re a grown ass adult. If you can’t control your kids without hitting them, you’ve got the problem.
looks like someone didn't learn his lesson
idiot
Yeah. Looks like someone is just a worthless lazy dumb person who likes hurting children because it’s the only way he can control them. Lot of people get off on doing that. Makes them feel powerful. Send my condolences to your kids. Or do you even have any in the first place?
you only have to hurt them if they misbehave
are your kids misbehaving? mine aren't
they know better
Seriously. You are one confusing dude. I can tell your intelligent. And reading through some of your posts, I agree with you on so many things. Do you just enjoy having attitude? So many of your comments are right on the mark. Except the response to me. Haha. But you’re so hostile. What gives?
no
Right. I corrected that already. I know how to spell and use proper grammar.
Bullshit. Boomers are still incredibly selfish and entitled. They created this mess.
This meme is an oversimplification of an extremely complicated situation pertaining to the development of the US.
My parents didn’t need to hit us when we misbehaved! All my mother had to do was give us a look and we immediately stopped! Italian mothers know how to discipline without lifting a finger!
That's because it wasn't an idle threat. She would beat your ass if you didn't.
Fear the bark because of the bite
That or they bring out the dreaded Wooden Spoon.
Had it from my Italian father and yeah, sure, I know I didn't do stuff because I'd be scared I'd get my ass beat, but let's be honest, most situations are better handled with alternative methods of discipline.
The Nose in Corner method only works if you stand there and watch them.
I can tell you, many people I know either need to be heavily medicated with Sedatives or Anti Depressants. OR need a Belt once in a while.
For example those 2 Girls who killed the Uber Eats Driver. I'm willing to bet they never gotten a Belt to the Ass. They have never known serious consequences, and as a result have no fear of committing wrong.
Same here!
Competent and proportional disciplinary action to train discretion, moral fiber, making good choices, right and wrong stuff to do.
Set high expectations and enforce them, but also encourage good behavior by responding with lots of praise. Kids need to know what to do and get excited about knowing they're doing the right thing. Walking on eggshells all the time also sucks ass for a kid.
Boomer meme , boomer logic
The ass beating generation stood by as globalists seized power.
200% agree!
Both. Both is good.
A swat never hurt anyone. A proper over-the-knee spanking never did either. What I've never understood is people who insist on having discussions with toddlers. The age of reason is rightly called that. A two- or three-year-old hasn't gotten there. I was spanked four or five times by my father. He always said why. When I was about 14 he back-handed me for mouthing off. Good for him. After that I stuck with mumbling :) Getting sent to my room was no biggie--always have been a bookworm, so I'd just read. My brother, OTOH, was crushed by getting sent to his room. He wanted to be out w/ his pals. Spanking? Sure--get it over so he could head back out!
The “ass beating” generation sold out american manufacturing to foreign countries, started all the gun control bullshit we currently have to deal with, sold out our cities to international real estate investors, and invented the concept of globalism. Fuck you boomer faggots
nah the ass beating generation gave us the boomer and they suck as bad as the millennial.
You need both. Time outs work. So do spankings. Spend time with your kids.
The self esteem movement has produced a lot of adults who are still children. They were raised thinking they're special and everything they do is special. They got trophies for not putting in any effort to succeed.
Now that they're adults, they're finding that they're not special and that you have to put in the effort to succeed. Rather than accepting these things, they're demanding that society and government change to make everyone special and give trophies to everyone.
Far from an "ass beating", a good old fashioned "spanking" always worked for me. Not a torrent of them, 5 or so good whacks was plenty. Heck, my Mom used to give me the Spock shoulder pinch in public and that was enough to straighten me out. I knew I had stepped out of line when that happened. It normally happened a an hour into grocery shopping or something equally as boring.
It has nothing to do with whether you hit your kids or not. That's irrelevant. The difference between generations is CULTURAL.
Parents used to instill discipline in their children, but in comes the boomers and a literal epidemic of divorce and a generation of kids who grew up without their fathers in the home and what do you know? All of a sudden we have a generation of adults who behave like assholes.
For the record, I am a firm believer in discipline, but hitting a child is fucking stupid. It's counter productive because it doesn't teach "discipline" it teaches fear, for a very brief period of time, then the dynamic changes and can go many different ways - few of them good.
I grew up with a boomer father and I recall the last time he tried to spank me. I laughed in his face and it crushed his spirit. He based his entire concept of the father-son power dynamic on being able to overpower me and intimidate me and when he realized he could no longer do either, our relationship, which was already badly broken, turned dead. Never recovered, either.
Participation trophies, I Voted stickers, social media likes and followers, vaccination cards, etc. The things these people do for attention and fake gratification has fucked over 2-3 generations of Americans
I'd argue that both are tools that can be used as a situation warrants, but if they're your only options as a parent, then you're a shitty parent.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child." I think it is timing. If you were beaten and have kids before you learned to appreciate that being a stern disciplinarian on children prepares them for the real world. If you spoil your kids, you fail them whether beaten or not.
One of the scariest things I ever heard growing up was, "Go out to the tree and cut me a switch" and my Dad would hand me a saw. Then he'd stand there and watch. As a kid, you always wanted the smallest switch thinking it'd hurt less. You quickly learned otherwise.
when i misbehaved, my mom would open the oven, pick me up, hold me at the opening, acting like she was about to throw me in, all the while telling me to stop being a little shit. dude, i can remember the intense fear like it was yesterday. i was screaming my ass off.
ah, the good ole days.
I remember my first time out... Only because it was immediately followed by an ass whooping when I didn't give a shit about it.
Agree
https://youtu.be/WiVAVJs1T6o
"as good of"
sigh
Divide people against each other based on age? Okay, let's play. So previous generations were beating their children and feeling morally superior about it while they allowed the 1965 immigration act along with letting socialists infiltrate every institution. There was no country left by the time the "time out" generation was raised by the beaten-children generation. The greatest generation wrecked Europe and supported the New Deal and the Federal Reserve to wreck the economy at home, hamstringing western civilization and then raising hordes of hippies to disintegrate the culture. All of that and the only thing you can lament is that your children were not beaten enough.
Beaten = to a Belt on the Butt for doing something Wrong (ex, Hitting a Sibling)
Sorry but I don't count your butt hurting for 5 minutes as a beating.
Yeah, as if most people who got hit as kids only got a belt to the butt and only when they committed an act of violence...
Back-talking your elders... that's a paddlin'.
Ass beatings work when used only when needed. I got those. Too much and you become ammune. I never got too much but mine may have been more real. Today’s kids need it a little but have enough to Take away to do the job. I’m not against some physical stuff. I’m against doing away with bullying. It can get out it hand but I credit my bullying with making me a man. What we need a lot more of is child labor. I grew up farming on a small scale. It was chores. I wasn’t abused or anything. We worked and earned. Our first cars we had to maintain. It’s not as easy to get a cheap starter car today after cash for clunkers but I think kids now are a product of easy times. Parents put kids in front of LCD pacifiers instead of teaching them. It’s super easy with YouTube available to each them whatever you sang for now. Instead, parents want to play Xbox for 3 hours a day instead of being parents. Be parents.
From what I have seen, parents don't want to upset their kids, they want to be their friend first. That just doesn't work. They need boundaries that only their parents can provide. Be their parent first.
Yeah those pre-Gen X post-GG Boomers haven't fucked anything up at all ever.
Ffs
One method was used for thousands of years one for 30 years. The difference is very noticeable.
AMEN!
Can this sign get an AMEN?
Spanking is anti liberty and produces people with blue hair who use timeouts.
No spanking can substitute a good relationship between a parent and their child.
says a person who physically abuses their kids :)
Physically harming a child is never the right thing to do. If you can’t control your child without inflicting pain on them, YOU are the one with the problem. I’ve locked my kid in the bathroom for a few minutes, (I was standing there the whole time and the door wasn’t really locked) I’ve grabbed upper arms many times. I’ve swatted a bottom or two when they ran in in the street as toddlers. Ive chased them with a switch but didn’t use it. I’ve taken away privileges when they were older. I’ve had to get into a couple of teenagers faces many times. I’ve screamed at them in anger. I’ve been so angry at times I’ve wanted to beat the shit out of them. But they grew up to be fine adults. hitting them with an object, or hard enough to leave a mark is out of the question. I have boys and girls of all different personalities. Parenting is tough. It’s hard to keep your temper. I sure as HELL wasn’t a perfect parent. And my kids were absolutely not perfect. But hitting kids is never the answer. I’m a mother but my husband felt the same way.