Basically what I’m getting at is it doesn’t matter what the hell they do. It can look bad and they’ll just lie and tell you how even though it looks bad, this is why it’s good. Or they’re enemy can do something that looks good and they just lie and say even though it looks good, here’s why it’s bad.

I don’t consider that optics. I consider that lying, and having enough money and influence to amplify and spread those lies.

Most of the people pushing them don’t even actually believe any of the shit they’re saying, they just say it because it advances their own interests in some other way.