The sad part is it’s really a very small and vocal group within MLB ruining it for everyone... we’ll call them the brainwashed moron contingent
The vast majority of baseball players aren’t down with this shit, guaranteed. Baseball is huge in the south where most top American baseball talent comes from... no way it’s a bunch of flaming SJWs in MLB. The normal ones are just cowed into silence by the radicals.
Too fucking bad. They have been cowed into silence because they are too pussy to defend the very people who have made their lifestyles possible for the last few decades. So now that money goes away.
Our side has to be better at fighting back. If 75% of "our side" completely cut MLB out of their lives, Manfred and the rest of the lawyers would be gone by next season and the sport would be back. I was a die-hard baseball fan growing up. I spent tons of time and money on MLB. I haven't watched an inning since 2019. It's not hard. It's sad to throw away one of the few diversions I enjoyed, but I'd rather do what's right than to support what's now the enemy.
I walked out on the NFL in 2015. At this point, I'll never go back. The first year or two I was tempted a few times to turn it on but never gave in. After that I didn't even think about it anymore. Instead of football, Sunday became synonymous with a day to just kick back, relax and maybe do some yard work or other things around the house. It's so much better. I wish more people would give it a try.
I did it with nfl about 5 years ago. Haven't watched a single game. I missed it the first year. After that, I honestly didn't care. It was nice getting my weekends back.
Baseball fans have never had any respect for Manfred. He was a disaster from the start and every decision he has made has been designed to destroy baseball much in the same way every decision made by the Left is designed to destroy America.
Probably also the reason Manfred is trying to kill off Minor League baseball, too. (Which he's actually trying to do.) The small-town local teams answer directly to the people of their community. If they pulled crap like, "Blue haired trannys wearing BLM/Antifa t-shirts get in free" they would be destroyed.
Please let them kill minor league baseball so a new US baseball league can rise up to compete with MLB.
Copy the English Premier League so teams can get relegated to the secondary league and small town teams can match up against bigger teams. Would be a lot of fun
There's already a ton of independent teams/leagues. More now because Manfred, like a moron, disenfranchised many of teams that were formerly affiliated with MLB teams. Way back in 1995 when MLB fought the strike by bringing in replacements I thought it was a great idea. Root out the cancer and start fresh. Eventually all the best players would be back. This should be done again, but with a new league.
Unfortunately, it's been tried before and failed in MLB, so it's more than likely nobody would be willing to take the risk. They'll just be content to be a bunch of independent minor leagues and nothing more.
All of his incredibly stupid decisions we’re done too, in his mind, attract a new audience to the ball parks. The trouble is, the audience he was trying to attract never gave a crap about baseball to begin with and wouldn’t show up even if you gave them free tickets. All it did was alienate the fans that actually attended.
Since he took over and started making his stupid decisions I have only attended one baseball game and I used to go at least once a year.
the audience he was trying to attract never gave a crap about baseball to begin with and wouldn’t show up even if you gave them free tickets. All it did was alienate the fans that actually attended.
I've been making this point non-stop since he began pandering. This is why I almost believe it was done on-purpose to destroy what was an American institution. What other reason would there be to get rid of a lot of what were die-hard, lifelong fans (like myself) who actually spent money on their product in exchange for absolutely nothing?
It's just a shame that there are still plenty of people who are pissed off by all of the MLB political bullshit but don't have the backbone to stop watching. If they just quit for even one season, it would be enough to send a strong message to the owners and maybe get Manfred kicked out. Then they would have their sport back. There's a lot of spinelessness on our side of the aisle. Also why there are still morons walking around with masks on their faces. (Also makes we wonder where all these people who think there's going to be a shooting war/revolution believe they're getting their "troops.")
I invited a friend to a Red Sox game a few years ago as he had never been to an MLB game before. They weren’t really a sports fan but we’re willing to give it a try. After the game they basically said they enjoyed hanging out, but really had no interest in baseball. I can respect that.
If people aren’t interested in the game itself or how it is played no matter how many pitch clocks, piece of play changes, etc. you make they are still not going to attend.
If people aren’t interested in the game itself or how it is played no matter how many pitch clocks, piece of play changes, etc. you make they are still not going to attend.
That's the same problem I always had with MLB's B.A.T. initiative. It's futile to try to get black kids interested in baseball simply by providing them with equipment and sending Mookie Betts and C.C. Sabathia into "the hood." Kids generally get interested in baseball because their dads get them interested. That's not happening in the black neighborhoods when most dads aren't around. Mookie Betts, C.C. Sabathia, etc. are just some rich guys who show up handing out free equipment that the kids probably immediately pawn before they just go back to playing basketball, dealing drugs or doing whatever the hell kids in gangs do.
If I ever became the commissioner of MLB, one of my first acts would be to get rid of the B.A.T. program. I wouldn't stop reaching out to kids but I sure as hell wouldn't be handing out expensive equipment. I'd start them off the way most ballplayers I knew started off: A wiffle bat and ball. If they're bored by that you find out quickly and without pissing away a ton of money on a lost cause. If that means only white kids grow up to be MLB players, oh well. Is that the worst thing ever?
I've mentioned this elsewhere in this thread. That's why nobody has any respect for him. He's not a baseball man and admittedly doesn't even like baseball. It was a disastrous choice from the start. The business equivalent of suicide.
Given that they’re trying to expand into CHYNA tells you everything you need to know. Undoubtedly the Chinese have told mlb you will say XYZ and do any and all subversive actions we ask you to if you want access to our markets.
This shit has been going on since the 70’s. CHYNA has no interest in making a buck, but in getting control over institutions and companies to ensure their hegemony. We haven’t had an organic billionaire in 30 years, not when the road to riches runs through CHYNA.
Manfred like his counterpart Silver are nothing more than the stooges of the major market teams in their leagues. It’s no wonder they make idiotic work decisions, as these teams are in the epicenter of woke degeneracy. Look at baseball, MLB has 11 teams in California, Chicago and New York alone. Then you have Boston, Minneapolis, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC and Toronto.
And we wonder why this shit keeps happening? There is no electoral college to help corporations and sports leagues fall into catastrophic feedback loops.
Fay Vincent was a "baseball man." Manfred is a lawyer who hates baseball.
Remember: Manfred did absolutely nothing when it was proven the Astros and Red Sox won the World Series after being proven to have cheated. Is anyone surprised he has a problem with Georgia's actions to begin fixing their fraudulent elections?
Hell, the guy didn’t even know that the trophy for winning the World Series is called The Commissioner’s Trophy.
Manfred is a truly insulated elite. An example, see how flustered he gets when he gets booed during the post-game 2020 World Series awards ceremony. His brain quite literally shuts down.
Libs ruined MLB like everything else good. The new rules are stupid, the stadiums have been converted into god damn amusement parks for kids. No one watches the damn game. It's over.
They also changed the game play into an unwatchable pile of crap. It's basically a four-hour long home run/strikeout derby with 30-40 seconds of nothing happening in between pitches. I never had a problem with long games. I have a huge problem with long, boring games and that's all there is. Sorry if I don't think it's exciting to watch guys have seasons where they hit 30 HRs but strikeout 170 times and bat .220.
The decline of gameplay made it REALLY easy to walk away last year when they started pandering to the BLM terrorists.
big money midseason transfers broke thr game for me
i cared about my team when i had the roster and bios and stats memorized
then they start rotating guys in and out so fast you never know them long enough to care
plus, i personally stopped playing and switched to pick up games of basketball and soccer because there were no american kids left in my neighborhood who would play anything else without an umpire and league points
I don't think there were so many mid-season transfers as to have a negative affect on the game. In fact, thanks to the moronic expansion of the post season to two wild cards, fewer teams were moving big talent at the deadline the last few years. However, if you want to talk about mediocre players getting ludicrous contracts then we have something there. (Cough, cough Jacoby Ellsbury.)
I'm right with you on the roster moves though. That crap and the rest of the gimmicks that the Rays invented because they can't develop any talent and are too cheap to shell out for free agents were quickly destroying the game. The massive shifts, the idiotic "opener" instead of a starting rotation and all their other little tricks. They can't play baseball so they had to bastardize it. Then a bunch of crappy franchise lemmings are convinced it's a good idea to make the game massively boring so they try the same tricks. Next thing you know, nobody in MLB actually knows how to play baseball and you have four hour games ending in a 2-1 final with 10 combined hits in the game.
Major League Baseball decided last week to move the All-Star Game out of Atlanta after the Georgia Legislature passed changes to the state’s voting laws that many, including President Biden, called racist. Activists urged Commissioner Robert Manfred to punish Georgia. By rushing to do so without first protesting the substance of the law, Mr. Manfred made a serious mistake.
The use of “muscle” or financial power to influence policy is an ancient tactic. The term “boycott” has its roots in 19th-century Ireland, where the nationalist politician Charles Stewart Parnell urged his followers not to deal with Charles Cunningham Boycott, a highly unpopular British land agent. A boycott is generally an act of desperation, and the original one was largely unsuccessful.
CEOs vs. Georgia / The Economic Climb
Organizations like Major League Baseball have sometimes participated in public debates over policy. Moving directly to an economic sanction suggests that Mr. Manfred believed the Georgia law required drastic intervention. But consider what he didn’t do: He didn’t limit the number of home games the Atlanta Braves will play. He’d need the approval of the players’ union to do that, and Braves owner John Malone would surely resist. To move the site of the All-Star Game is one thing; to ignore union and ownership powers is quite another.
The midsummer All-Star Game is an exhibition that benefits only the city where it’s played. It was reported Tuesday morning that Denver will be the new host. The players will get paid no matter where the game takes place. MLB will get the same television revenue. The only people hurt by Mr. Manfred’s decision will be Atlanta’s stadium workers and local vendors.
The talk shows and editorial pages are full of questions. What is the basis for acting so forcefully against Georgia? If Georgia is racist, how can baseball talk of doing business with China? Mr. Manfred failed to spell out specific criticisms of Georgia’s voting law. Now he’s put himself in the awkward position of having to defend Colorado’s voting laws.
During my time as commissioner, I learned that the American people view baseball as a public trust. They want the game to stand for the best and noblest of our national virtues. They see baseball as the repository of their dreams, even as they root for their favorite teams. They don’t want, and won’t accept, anything that separates them from the game’s history and leadership.
Major League Baseball can’t become a weapon in the culture wars, a hostage for one political party or ideology. It can’t be only for the rich or the poor, nor can it only be for one race, as it was until 1947. Baseball must always stand above politics and its dark elements of corruption, greed and sordid selfishness. It can’t go wrong by standing for national greatness.
The situation calls to mind the 2006 Duke lacrosse case, when many erred—like Mr. Manfred has here—by leaping to a conclusion based on assumptions rather than carefully considered facts. I’ve done the same thing, to my regret. Much rides on Mr. Manfred’s shoulders so he must be prudent. Perhaps he now sees how complicated these issues can become. I wish him well.
Mr. Vincent was commissioner of baseball, 1989-92.
An irony in moving the event from GA to CO over election legislation and processes is that Colorado election law is far more restrictive than GA law even after the changes!
Colorado law sends a ballot to every active registered voter and accounts for that ballots return with every ballot envelope being signature verified before opening. The entire process from picking ballots up at drop boxes through ballot opening and central scanning is chain of custody protected with bi-partisan election workers, not just watchers escorting every ballot every step of the way.
Colorado is the safest place to vote even using an all mail out ballot system. The new Georgia law addresses some critical issues to secure the elections.
The move is totally counter to their objectives.... stupid.
You couldn't be any more wrong. They can negate anybody's ballot by only knowing ones name, date of birth and zip code. Anybody with that info (which is publicly available) can request a provisional ballot up until midnight election night which negates the original mail in.
these fuckers all come from Obama, Justin Florence is a counsel at Ropes & Gray and previously served as associate counsel and special assistant to the president in the Obama administration, https://protectdemocracy.org/our-staff/ . save their photo's for when the shit hits the fan, they made my book
People, you have to remember, the Commissioner of every league is elected by, and works for, the team owners. Most of these owners are billionaires. Many own multinationals. They feel no allegiance to America, or Americans. If they stay on point, they will get paid, even if the yearly attendance is zero.
It was around 2017, I believe, that all but 2 NFL teams would have turned a profit, if zero people attended a game. Sports are no longer an in-person product. There’s too much tv money.
Turns out there are a lot of moron former players also "applauding" the decision despite also not knowing any of the facts. Pulling that same crap they always pull with, "[Enter name of former black/hispanic dead player who can't speak for themselves but gives them absolute moral authority] would have agreed with this decision."
You'd have to be quick on a phone but if you are on computer, when you open the site, hit ctrl+A Then ctrl+C and it'll copy the text before the paywall comes up. Then just paste it into a word doc
You have to be racist to see racism in an ID requirement to vote. You have to think so little of the people you are racist against that you think they legitimately don't know how to get ID.
Isn't the current commissioner the one who gave amnesty to the Houston sign stealers after they won a World Series cheating. Looks like he sides with cheaters,,,
What choice do these people have. The Left will completely destroy them if they don't capitulate. They make the trade-off--piss off the conservatives and keep baseball or have th Dems legislate, regulate, and defame them out of business. I don't watch baseball anyway, but they are banking on China to bankroll them when the Americans stop watching and buying jerseys. America's game no more
Pro sports are as real as professional wrestling, real athleticism, predetermined outcomes. The sooner fans realize this the sooner more will move on from these stupid leagues.
this guy is just letting them know it was a bad financial move for MLB, he didn't disagree with the move but said there is no evidence to back up what they did, and this decision is going to hurt the franchise, It's all about the money. screw him to
These sheep morons are simply used to promote the "reasons" to abollish the filibuster and pass HR1. Love IQ Democrat voters are completely vonvinced the a dictatorship is only bad if they are not the dictators. Democrats are retards. Cancer.
Maybe we need to rethink this. I mean, we're assuming the MLB moron, manfred, is woke and ignorant. But what if he's not? What if this move is purposeful. so then what would be the reasoning? the motive for this kind of PR nightmare? EDITED to update to Manfred, not vincent.
Don't care. Rather coach 10 year old little league than watch overpaid woke dopes in the mlb.
My father used to be able to go see a game and buy a soda and hot dog with the money he made mowing lawn.
Now taking your kid to a game is $300+ so you can watch cuban idiots who dont speak English kneel during our anthem. Fuck the MLB
So true.
I would upvote your comment 800000000000000000000 times if I could...
The sad part is it’s really a very small and vocal group within MLB ruining it for everyone... we’ll call them the brainwashed moron contingent
The vast majority of baseball players aren’t down with this shit, guaranteed. Baseball is huge in the south where most top American baseball talent comes from... no way it’s a bunch of flaming SJWs in MLB. The normal ones are just cowed into silence by the radicals.
Too fucking bad. They have been cowed into silence because they are too pussy to defend the very people who have made their lifestyles possible for the last few decades. So now that money goes away.
I hope they all fucking starve.
Our side has to be better at fighting back. If 75% of "our side" completely cut MLB out of their lives, Manfred and the rest of the lawyers would be gone by next season and the sport would be back. I was a die-hard baseball fan growing up. I spent tons of time and money on MLB. I haven't watched an inning since 2019. It's not hard. It's sad to throw away one of the few diversions I enjoyed, but I'd rather do what's right than to support what's now the enemy.
I did the same thing with the NFL, Demolition Man. It's not as difficult as people might think and you gain extra hours of life to do other things.
I walked out on the NFL in 2015. At this point, I'll never go back. The first year or two I was tempted a few times to turn it on but never gave in. After that I didn't even think about it anymore. Instead of football, Sunday became synonymous with a day to just kick back, relax and maybe do some yard work or other things around the house. It's so much better. I wish more people would give it a try.
I did it with nfl about 5 years ago. Haven't watched a single game. I missed it the first year. After that, I honestly didn't care. It was nice getting my weekends back.
It’s all so drivel
Yeah my dad used to skip school with a $1.00 take the subway into the Bronx and see Mickey mantle play from the stands and have a hot dog and soda.
We tend towards respect for people who rise to lead large organizations like this, but the reality is many are incredibly dumb highly paid puppets.
Baseball fans have never had any respect for Manfred. He was a disaster from the start and every decision he has made has been designed to destroy baseball much in the same way every decision made by the Left is designed to destroy America.
Pro Sports is a government-connected monopoly. Rising to the top will not depend on ability or adherence to any ideals.
Probably also the reason Manfred is trying to kill off Minor League baseball, too. (Which he's actually trying to do.) The small-town local teams answer directly to the people of their community. If they pulled crap like, "Blue haired trannys wearing BLM/Antifa t-shirts get in free" they would be destroyed.
Please let them kill minor league baseball so a new US baseball league can rise up to compete with MLB.
Copy the English Premier League so teams can get relegated to the secondary league and small town teams can match up against bigger teams. Would be a lot of fun
There's already a ton of independent teams/leagues. More now because Manfred, like a moron, disenfranchised many of teams that were formerly affiliated with MLB teams. Way back in 1995 when MLB fought the strike by bringing in replacements I thought it was a great idea. Root out the cancer and start fresh. Eventually all the best players would be back. This should be done again, but with a new league.
Unfortunately, it's been tried before and failed in MLB, so it's more than likely nobody would be willing to take the risk. They'll just be content to be a bunch of independent minor leagues and nothing more.
All of his incredibly stupid decisions we’re done too, in his mind, attract a new audience to the ball parks. The trouble is, the audience he was trying to attract never gave a crap about baseball to begin with and wouldn’t show up even if you gave them free tickets. All it did was alienate the fans that actually attended.
Since he took over and started making his stupid decisions I have only attended one baseball game and I used to go at least once a year.
I've been making this point non-stop since he began pandering. This is why I almost believe it was done on-purpose to destroy what was an American institution. What other reason would there be to get rid of a lot of what were die-hard, lifelong fans (like myself) who actually spent money on their product in exchange for absolutely nothing?
It's just a shame that there are still plenty of people who are pissed off by all of the MLB political bullshit but don't have the backbone to stop watching. If they just quit for even one season, it would be enough to send a strong message to the owners and maybe get Manfred kicked out. Then they would have their sport back. There's a lot of spinelessness on our side of the aisle. Also why there are still morons walking around with masks on their faces. (Also makes we wonder where all these people who think there's going to be a shooting war/revolution believe they're getting their "troops.")
I invited a friend to a Red Sox game a few years ago as he had never been to an MLB game before. They weren’t really a sports fan but we’re willing to give it a try. After the game they basically said they enjoyed hanging out, but really had no interest in baseball. I can respect that.
If people aren’t interested in the game itself or how it is played no matter how many pitch clocks, piece of play changes, etc. you make they are still not going to attend.
That's the same problem I always had with MLB's B.A.T. initiative. It's futile to try to get black kids interested in baseball simply by providing them with equipment and sending Mookie Betts and C.C. Sabathia into "the hood." Kids generally get interested in baseball because their dads get them interested. That's not happening in the black neighborhoods when most dads aren't around. Mookie Betts, C.C. Sabathia, etc. are just some rich guys who show up handing out free equipment that the kids probably immediately pawn before they just go back to playing basketball, dealing drugs or doing whatever the hell kids in gangs do.
If I ever became the commissioner of MLB, one of my first acts would be to get rid of the B.A.T. program. I wouldn't stop reaching out to kids but I sure as hell wouldn't be handing out expensive equipment. I'd start them off the way most ballplayers I knew started off: A wiffle bat and ball. If they're bored by that you find out quickly and without pissing away a ton of money on a lost cause. If that means only white kids grow up to be MLB players, oh well. Is that the worst thing ever?
Manfred's also a lawyer.
I've mentioned this elsewhere in this thread. That's why nobody has any respect for him. He's not a baseball man and admittedly doesn't even like baseball. It was a disastrous choice from the start. The business equivalent of suicide.
Given that they’re trying to expand into CHYNA tells you everything you need to know. Undoubtedly the Chinese have told mlb you will say XYZ and do any and all subversive actions we ask you to if you want access to our markets.
This shit has been going on since the 70’s. CHYNA has no interest in making a buck, but in getting control over institutions and companies to ensure their hegemony. We haven’t had an organic billionaire in 30 years, not when the road to riches runs through CHYNA.
1000% correct
Manfred like his counterpart Silver are nothing more than the stooges of the major market teams in their leagues. It’s no wonder they make idiotic work decisions, as these teams are in the epicenter of woke degeneracy. Look at baseball, MLB has 11 teams in California, Chicago and New York alone. Then you have Boston, Minneapolis, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC and Toronto.
And we wonder why this shit keeps happening? There is no electoral college to help corporations and sports leagues fall into catastrophic feedback loops.
Fay Vincent was a "baseball man." Manfred is a lawyer who hates baseball.
Remember: Manfred did absolutely nothing when it was proven the Astros and Red Sox won the World Series after being proven to have cheated. Is anyone surprised he has a problem with Georgia's actions to begin fixing their fraudulent elections?
Hell, the guy didn’t even know that the trophy for winning the World Series is called The Commissioner’s Trophy.
Manfred is a truly insulated elite. An example, see how flustered he gets when he gets booed during the post-game 2020 World Series awards ceremony. His brain quite literally shuts down.
He also called it "just a piece of metal"
Libs ruined MLB like everything else good. The new rules are stupid, the stadiums have been converted into god damn amusement parks for kids. No one watches the damn game. It's over.
They also changed the game play into an unwatchable pile of crap. It's basically a four-hour long home run/strikeout derby with 30-40 seconds of nothing happening in between pitches. I never had a problem with long games. I have a huge problem with long, boring games and that's all there is. Sorry if I don't think it's exciting to watch guys have seasons where they hit 30 HRs but strikeout 170 times and bat .220.
The decline of gameplay made it REALLY easy to walk away last year when they started pandering to the BLM terrorists.
big money midseason transfers broke thr game for me
i cared about my team when i had the roster and bios and stats memorized
then they start rotating guys in and out so fast you never know them long enough to care
plus, i personally stopped playing and switched to pick up games of basketball and soccer because there were no american kids left in my neighborhood who would play anything else without an umpire and league points
I don't think there were so many mid-season transfers as to have a negative affect on the game. In fact, thanks to the moronic expansion of the post season to two wild cards, fewer teams were moving big talent at the deadline the last few years. However, if you want to talk about mediocre players getting ludicrous contracts then we have something there. (Cough, cough Jacoby Ellsbury.)
I'm right with you on the roster moves though. That crap and the rest of the gimmicks that the Rays invented because they can't develop any talent and are too cheap to shell out for free agents were quickly destroying the game. The massive shifts, the idiotic "opener" instead of a starting rotation and all their other little tricks. They can't play baseball so they had to bastardize it. Then a bunch of crappy franchise lemmings are convinced it's a good idea to make the game massively boring so they try the same tricks. Next thing you know, nobody in MLB actually knows how to play baseball and you have four hour games ending in a 2-1 final with 10 combined hits in the game.
I don't have a WSJ account and I'm not getting one.
Full article, opens free for me.
Major League Baseball decided last week to move the All-Star Game out of Atlanta after the Georgia Legislature passed changes to the state’s voting laws that many, including President Biden, called racist. Activists urged Commissioner Robert Manfred to punish Georgia. By rushing to do so without first protesting the substance of the law, Mr. Manfred made a serious mistake.
The use of “muscle” or financial power to influence policy is an ancient tactic. The term “boycott” has its roots in 19th-century Ireland, where the nationalist politician Charles Stewart Parnell urged his followers not to deal with Charles Cunningham Boycott, a highly unpopular British land agent. A boycott is generally an act of desperation, and the original one was largely unsuccessful.
CEOs vs. Georgia / The Economic Climb
Organizations like Major League Baseball have sometimes participated in public debates over policy. Moving directly to an economic sanction suggests that Mr. Manfred believed the Georgia law required drastic intervention. But consider what he didn’t do: He didn’t limit the number of home games the Atlanta Braves will play. He’d need the approval of the players’ union to do that, and Braves owner John Malone would surely resist. To move the site of the All-Star Game is one thing; to ignore union and ownership powers is quite another.
The midsummer All-Star Game is an exhibition that benefits only the city where it’s played. It was reported Tuesday morning that Denver will be the new host. The players will get paid no matter where the game takes place. MLB will get the same television revenue. The only people hurt by Mr. Manfred’s decision will be Atlanta’s stadium workers and local vendors.
The talk shows and editorial pages are full of questions. What is the basis for acting so forcefully against Georgia? If Georgia is racist, how can baseball talk of doing business with China? Mr. Manfred failed to spell out specific criticisms of Georgia’s voting law. Now he’s put himself in the awkward position of having to defend Colorado’s voting laws.
During my time as commissioner, I learned that the American people view baseball as a public trust. They want the game to stand for the best and noblest of our national virtues. They see baseball as the repository of their dreams, even as they root for their favorite teams. They don’t want, and won’t accept, anything that separates them from the game’s history and leadership.
Major League Baseball can’t become a weapon in the culture wars, a hostage for one political party or ideology. It can’t be only for the rich or the poor, nor can it only be for one race, as it was until 1947. Baseball must always stand above politics and its dark elements of corruption, greed and sordid selfishness. It can’t go wrong by standing for national greatness.
The situation calls to mind the 2006 Duke lacrosse case, when many erred—like Mr. Manfred has here—by leaping to a conclusion based on assumptions rather than carefully considered facts. I’ve done the same thing, to my regret. Much rides on Mr. Manfred’s shoulders so he must be prudent. Perhaps he now sees how complicated these issues can become. I wish him well.
Mr. Vincent was commissioner of baseball, 1989-92.
Why you link to paywall article?
https://archive.is/a08MK Here you go. Using archive gets around the paywall.
Gotta give MSM those ad clicks right
An irony in moving the event from GA to CO over election legislation and processes is that Colorado election law is far more restrictive than GA law even after the changes!
Colorado law sends a ballot to every active registered voter and accounts for that ballots return with every ballot envelope being signature verified before opening. The entire process from picking ballots up at drop boxes through ballot opening and central scanning is chain of custody protected with bi-partisan election workers, not just watchers escorting every ballot every step of the way.
Colorado is the safest place to vote even using an all mail out ballot system. The new Georgia law addresses some critical issues to secure the elections.
The move is totally counter to their objectives.... stupid.
You couldn't be any more wrong. They can negate anybody's ballot by only knowing ones name, date of birth and zip code. Anybody with that info (which is publicly available) can request a provisional ballot up until midnight election night which negates the original mail in.
these fuckers all come from Obama, Justin Florence is a counsel at Ropes & Gray and previously served as associate counsel and special assistant to the president in the Obama administration, https://protectdemocracy.org/our-staff/ . save their photo's for when the shit hits the fan, they made my book
This group is a bunch of globalist fuck anything they have to say, The CEO comes from this group https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/hiring/
It is not voter intimidation if they don't ask who they voted for, only if they ask if they voted or not and for ID,** that's not voter intimidation**
People, you have to remember, the Commissioner of every league is elected by, and works for, the team owners. Most of these owners are billionaires. Many own multinationals. They feel no allegiance to America, or Americans. If they stay on point, they will get paid, even if the yearly attendance is zero.
It was around 2017, I believe, that all but 2 NFL teams would have turned a profit, if zero people attended a game. Sports are no longer an in-person product. There’s too much tv money.
Seemed like a good article. Anyone got an archive of the full text?
Not me, but Daily Mail has a decent summation of what Vincent had to say.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9444995/Ex-MLB-commissioner-Fay-Vincent-slams-successor-Rob-Manfreds-decision-Star-Game.html
Turns out there are a lot of moron former players also "applauding" the decision despite also not knowing any of the facts. Pulling that same crap they always pull with, "[Enter name of former black/hispanic dead player who can't speak for themselves but gives them absolute moral authority] would have agreed with this decision."
You'd have to be quick on a phone but if you are on computer, when you open the site, hit ctrl+A Then ctrl+C and it'll copy the text before the paywall comes up. Then just paste it into a word doc
Thanks. Ill try that.
Did he hit a home run or strike out?
He balked. All joggers advance to the next Nike store.
Seeing as how Vincent has really no say over MLB matters anymore, I'd say he's not even on the roster.
He’s a guest in the booth during the 7th inning stretch on a local broadcast.
??? This isn’t news????
The law is a god damned travesty and we are supposed to be happy about it. Fuckim stupidity is the biggest threat to our collective future
Question: What SPECIFICALLY is racist about this voter legislation?
Ask the fucking question
You have to be racist to see racism in an ID requirement to vote. You have to think so little of the people you are racist against that you think they legitimately don't know how to get ID.
Manfred has been asked that question and cannot/will not answer. Which in itself is an answer.
Too late, sparky.
But he had to kiss Biden's Ass. That's more important than ANYTHING!
Isn't the current commissioner the one who gave amnesty to the Houston sign stealers after they won a World Series cheating. Looks like he sides with cheaters,,,
does "a law he hadn't read" mean Biden didn't read it, or Manfred didn't read it?
yes
What choice do these people have. The Left will completely destroy them if they don't capitulate. They make the trade-off--piss off the conservatives and keep baseball or have th Dems legislate, regulate, and defame them out of business. I don't watch baseball anyway, but they are banking on China to bankroll them when the Americans stop watching and buying jerseys. America's game no more
Honestly, what baseball did is so bizarre, so inexplicable, so wrong, I simply cannot understand what the fuck is going on anymore.
Pro sports are as real as professional wrestling, real athleticism, predetermined outcomes. The sooner fans realize this the sooner more will move on from these stupid leagues.
Fuck the Chinese Communist Baseball League and all their commissioners.
But MLB's logic they can never play a game in a state that has voter ID laws.
Play baseball w friends and neighbors. Help each other out w chores and childcare. Fuck all these corporate/CCP shill motherfuckers.
this guy is just letting them know it was a bad financial move for MLB, he didn't disagree with the move but said there is no evidence to back up what they did, and this decision is going to hurt the franchise, It's all about the money. screw him to
These sheep morons are simply used to promote the "reasons" to abollish the filibuster and pass HR1. Love IQ Democrat voters are completely vonvinced the a dictatorship is only bad if they are not the dictators. Democrats are retards. Cancer.
Maybe we need to rethink this. I mean, we're assuming the MLB moron, manfred, is woke and ignorant. But what if he's not? What if this move is purposeful. so then what would be the reasoning? the motive for this kind of PR nightmare? EDITED to update to Manfred, not vincent.
Rob Manfred is the current commissioner. Fay Vincent was commissioner from 1989 until 1992.