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Dictator_Bob 10 points ago +11 / -1

It's amazing how fucking stupid some peoples' conspiracy theories are.

I don't know what to believe surrounding 9/11 and I've considered much of the arguments out there. I do know that what you're saying here leaves out much. For example, the two poorly executed wars Bush dragged us into. Then the pointless wars Obama dragged us into.

There are claims that Israel lobbied and possibly subverted the US political system to destroy the militaries and cripple these civilizations. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't.

This doesn't make Israel guilty of 9/11. I think the consensus now is that it was the Saudis. It could have been some rogue nutjobs. What matters to me is not the unknowable or unprovable.

What matters to me is what happened after 9/11 and how it exactly matched the wishes of PNAC. PNAC who was in power at the time. There is no refuting this as what they declared is in writing. What the neocons did after 9/11 is not controversial.

We have been at war with Iran and Iraq since the Shah was deposed. We went hot in the 80's and are still there today. This should shape the discussion and the policy, not the act of terrorists. We should be focusing on doing the right thing for America. We focus on terrorists because we are told to.

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Cyber1776 0 points ago +3 / -3

Most conspiracy's around it are just blatantly retarded, especially the ones that try to analyze how the debris fell or claim that there was secret bombs planted in the buildings or whatever. But the political fall out with all these different countries after the fact is peculiar even though theres an obvious x factor of just chaos and scrambling. Too much of conspiracies is based on this idea that EVERYTHING is part of this complex multinational plan where ever single event that happens in a preplanned step.

The Hunt for KSM is a pretty good book on the build up to the attacks though. It goes all into the network he created and how he operated basically a terrorist cell group in the same way a drug dealer network would work.

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derzahl 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you buy the Official Story about 9/11 I've got a bridge to sell you. I suppose you think JFK was just murdered by a single crazed wannabe communist who was then just coincidentally murdered by a jewish mafia member who had fatal stomach cancer so LHO coincidentally couldnt be interrogated and neither could his murder. No conspiracy there...none at all.

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Cyber1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just look at how sporadic and unhinged your post is, conspiracytards have no solid narrative of their own and no solid proof of anything. You guys just find little holes in the story (some of which are just based on your own ignorance of the event) conclude that the entire official story is bullshit, then just make up a situation of your own with NO proof to back it up and pretend its the truth and anyone who doesnt get it is a shill sheep or whatever.