Police lobbyists don't represent the average police man, remember that.
Same with unions not representing their workers average view.
Every cop I've met in NY and talked to wants us to be armed. They like when we carry.
Hell, my "friend" is going through the academy right now to be a volunteer police man and he said the trainers and other cops were talking to the class about gun control, and said "I'm sure as fuck never giving MY guns up, ARE YOU?"
And btw, I'm in one of the most liberal parts of NY.
That’s a big problem when conservatives keep quitting the police force. Because guess what’s left over, and guess what the eventual implications of that are.
Police that don't follow orders are not police. The problem is one of orders. There's nothing shameful about quitting a force that makes you do things you know are wrong.
Yup, they are scum, but just like hurting innocent people, it isn't the majority acting that way. It definitely happens, but most cops haven't bothered to intervene in such stupid things.
I’m not insinuating cops are bastards, but there are some (could be many or few) that will follow orders even if they’re ridiculous or unconstitutional.
We should remember this before we say “don’t worry cops would totally be on our side!” Because we simply don’t know that.
“Police lobbyists don't represent the average police man, remember that.”
What about the ones dragging moms out of parks or football games for not wearing masks?
I would argue that we should be calling them out and demanding they start disobeying these orders. We are not doing this. We should be doing this, and loudly.
I would disagree that we should grossly generalize the police who overwhelmingly supported our President. I would argue that it the enemy spends a lot of energy attempting to drive wedges between us and the police, and now our military. If they are doing this then they have a strategy in place we are unprepared for.
I agree that calling them out is the right move, the police are supposed to protect and serve us the people. We need to change that idea that they merely work for local government because that’s what gives them power to “follow orders”. They work for us, the community and individual.
Considering she's out of ft Wayne I'm not surprised. It's one of our big cities and it's a fucking cesspool. Just on a lower scale cause it is still Indiana.
She an NRA member, also big time right to life person. So it’s got to be these lobbyists pissing in her .
Cops don’t need a list to know who the legal gun owners are. They treat every traffic stop as though there is guns in the car. They know that the legal carriers aren’t the problem.
Just because she concedes some right wing points does not make her right wing. Until we begin using purity tests like the left our politicians are going to keep fucking us.
Trust me she was my city councilman /person and senator. She’s is conservative, she is just ignorant on what cops do. Every car could have a gun. Cops don’t check a database. They can later to charge a perp.
Brown is maybe a little too Catholic and passive about guns
I am from Indiana. Stopping CC did not make sense so I did some reading on the bill. There was a rider added to constitutional carry for Indiana none of the other states have. The rider would act as a background check everytime anyone was stopped by police. A heavy infringement of rights.
Rod Bray is the senate member who blocked this. Here’s his contact information (public information).
Phone: 800-382-9467
or 317-232-9400
Email: [email protected]
The one objection from police in the article involves accessibility of information concerning laws they're supposed to enforce. There's nothing there about lobbyists. It's not even clear that there was any direct opposition to the bill.
Objections from the police. Police are lobbying. Are they the voters?
There are 71 Republican senators. This would pass . We DON’T CARE WHAT THE POLICE HAVE TO SAY. our creator bestowed this right that “ SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”
If you don’t understand the process, then you are a cnn viewer
People like you are why we lose. You want things to be convenient and simple, and you don't want to have to learn how things work.
Laws that end up being unenforceable are also likely to be seen as unconstitutional. Even someone functioning at your level should be able to predict legal challenges to this law. Uneven enforcement due to the lack of available information is virtually a slam dunk.
And lobbying isn't what you think it is, either. None of this is simple. The second you try to put it on a bumper sticker, you're wrong. Bumper stickers are for herding sheep. The ignorance and stupidity of some people here when the police are brought up is demoralizing. People love the police, and people hate the police, and it is typically out of ignorance in both cases.
Once again, you oversimplify and break out a slogan (which misses the point). We need people like you who understand the principles of liberty, but we need you to get involved and learn what you're talking about. Ignorance will not advance the cause. If this were simple or easy, we'd still have a Constitution in place. The reason we don't is that too many people who thought they supported the Constitution didn't know how to defend it.
Police union thought-process: “If people can defend themselves, they may not feel the need to spend millions on police budgets... we can’t allow ourselves to be become obsolete”
Remember that a cop (an ass in a badge) is forever on the lookout for that one reason to harass anyone they think is 'suspicious.' A firearm, or a search for a firearm, or pretending they found a firearm, or claiming they saw a firearm, is top on the list for reasons to let the asshole out.
Restoring the right of the people to bear arms will take that away from them.
Not all of them. But way way too many. Which is a serious. Problem. We all need to stop cooperating with any and all of these tyrant agencies. Local and federal. No matter where you live. It's all on the line
"Fort Wayne Republican Sen. Liz Brown, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee where the bill has been sitting, declined to give the bill a hearing before the deadline, effectively killing the legislation." Why exactly does she have the power to deny a hearing of a bill that has passed the house?
Not surprising. Some of us old enough to remember the Fudds from the 90s and the original "assault weapon" ban know the truth.
The road we are currently has a fork coming, and nobody knows we will reach it. When those 2 paths diverge though, they will both have pain and suffering, just a matter of who is suffering more.
You should never give a fuck if people dis where you come from. I was born in CA. Back when it was truly the best state. I remember going to the gun store close to our house, my mom was scared of the night stalker. She took me with her to buy a ruger security 6 with the stainless finish, (.357 mag). Of course the guy recommended her .38 wadcutters. with nickel plated casings. Looking back I think that was an astute salesman because my mom had a limited experience shooting handguns. And that was a good first handgun to buy back in the mid 80s before the autoloaders were the standard.
Sorry to get off track I just love that gun she still lets me shoot it whenever I want. I bought her a bunch of new ammo for it. Some .38 special federal HST hollow points I think are +P as well. Way easier than shooting .357 but more stopping power and nastier wound than the 35 year old wadcutters she always kept in it.
But I just wanted to point out we took home that gun the same day. Idk if there was even background checks. I think Reagan had banned open carry already but that was about it. California was nothing like it is now politically speaking.
Being a conservative and being resilient enough to go against the hive mind isn't easy to do. I'm more impressed by people who hold strong in their beliefs when when every one is against you for irrational reasons
As a fellow Hoosier I am sick of these Rinos running Indiana. Governor Holcomb is a gutless coward and it's sad that so many here in Indiana just vote for him and the other Rinos just because they have an R next to their name.
Holcomb is a huge RINO. All of his proposed legislation is leftist agenda bs. He lost my vote when his first proposal was adding a hate crime law. Most of the Hoosier legislators are fairly based, but there are enough RINOs to get in the way. Most people don’t pay attention to state politics.
All cops care about is revenue. That's why weed is still illegal, and that's why the second amendment has been flushed down the toilet. It's a miracle alcohol prohibition was ended.
Totally agree. Or at least make them equal to the citizens. I want to see those police in CA use the featureless ARs with the fin grips. And 10 round mags.
We get more transplants from failing Chicago and Detroit every day. They move in and keep their social media friends, never talk to rural people, and complain that we don't do things the way Chicago does. What do you recommend we do to assimilate these people? 4th grade curriculum was the year of Indiana history in public school. What do you do when they get taught CRT during that year and then move to your state?
From my understanding it was killed because of an amendment made to the bill giving the police a database of everyone with a carry permit on file to access during traffic stops. It’s bullshit that we didn’t get constitutional carry. It’s absolute horse shit that the police unions had an amendment tacked on to create a database of all people with a carry permit for them to access.
I'm from Indiana, and I couldn't care less about "Constitutional Carry". Indiana is a shall issue state. It's very easy to get a permit, I personally have a lifetime permit. 15% of Hoosiers have a CCW, the highest percent in the country! Exercising the right to keep and bear arms is not being denied in my state period.
I want nationwide reciprocity for people WHO HAVE PERMITS. I sucks that when I go next door to Ohio, I have to leave my pistol at home. That's the law we should be worried about.
I don't want just anybody to carry a gun. As it stands right now, if I get pulled over with a gun, I just whip out my permit, and I'm good to go. With CC, if I get pulled over, the cop will then need to find out whether I'm banned from carrying.
I prefer having that question answered in advance.
The only concern raised by police in the story is that they need information on who's not allowed to carry if they have to enforce the law. That's CNN levels of selective reading you got going on there.
I’m “backing the blue” who uphold their oaths state and our federal constitutions, like many based sheriffs have done across our country within the last year.
If you’re a cop shutting down a church service while allowing BLM to burn down cities, then you can eat a bag of d*cks
I don't understand the Senators in Indiana. We were one of the first states that had legal carry permits (back into the 1980s), but we lag behind on this and we were one of the first states to institute a bullshit "red flag" law (which has since been made slightly less unconstitutional). Indiana Republicans are too timid. They go out of their way to avoid being provocative in the slightest sense. When they do something provocative and face pressure from media groups (who hate what Republicans do, regardless), they fold like a cheap suit (e.g. Pence with the RFRA several years back). If Indiana were in Georgia's position regarding MLB, Coke, and Delta, they would've already repealed the election reform bill and capitulated to all the leftist demands.
Fuck the police. Sorry back the blue fanboys!! I never liked the police. I live in nyc and it has been a police state for 20 years now!!! Im not saying defund or we don't need them!!! We just don't need them writing tickets or harassing people who sell loose cigarettes for a quarter outside of deli on the corner street they themselves live on!!! IRS and tix nazis!! Most of them!!
Another enemy that came out in this process was the National Association of Gun Rights and their indiana branch "Hoosier Gun Rights". They fought this bill and fed false information about some sort of database/poison pill the bill would set up and the two senators who were able to block this bill from moving forward used that as justification to outright ignore it and prevent it from getting a vote. Don't give them any money!
RINOs are worse than Democrats, I'm almost at the point where I will come out to vote for the Democrat just so the RINO loses, rather than just not showing up.
At least I know where the Democrat stands, she's gonna stab me in the face not the back.
I have never voted for a Democrat in my life but there is some merit to your line of thinking vs any RINO that survives a primary. The RINO would be out, the Dem helps the other Dems screw things up, the people are pissed and we vote a MAGA into office in the next cycle.
Indiana: Grow a pair and drag that weak-kneed cock gobbler from her office and make her put it to a vote. Call her day and night. Put her name in the editorial section. Be sure to get multiple threads going questioning her mental well being. Start slanderous rumors of her sleeping with the police unions reps.
Make them feel from us what they fear the left will do to them. But be more viscous about it. Make all RINOs be on alert that their careers, their home life, their spouses home and work life will be destroyed for cucking out.
Either they stand strong and do what is right in the face of evil, or we show them a taste of the evil they are letting in.
I’m glad people are seeing this now. Previously Rinos could kill votes without it being reported, and continue to pretend to stand up for the constitution. No longer!!
bAcK tHe bLuE
Back Constitutionalists
Police lobbyists don't represent the average police man, remember that.
Same with unions not representing their workers average view.
Every cop I've met in NY and talked to wants us to be armed. They like when we carry.
Hell, my "friend" is going through the academy right now to be a volunteer police man and he said the trainers and other cops were talking to the class about gun control, and said "I'm sure as fuck never giving MY guns up, ARE YOU?"
And btw, I'm in one of the most liberal parts of NY.
Probably the 2nd or 3rd.
All the based cops in my family moved on to other jobs. There are good cops out there im sure but as a group i dont fucking trust them anymore.
I agree with that. I definitely don't trust them. I trust the ones I know, and that's it.
Plenty of corruption in departments across the country.
That’s a big problem when conservatives keep quitting the police force. Because guess what’s left over, and guess what the eventual implications of that are.
Police that don't follow orders are not police. The problem is one of orders. There's nothing shameful about quitting a force that makes you do things you know are wrong.
Saying you are a conservative wont stop you from getting the bullet when you come to get my guns i lost in a boating accident.
Okay, but if you're waiting to act against the low-level functionaries instead of going up the chain, you're going to lose.
Tell that to the Vietnamese
They all enforce unconstitutional edict. They're all bad.
100% agree. I am sure their were Germans who said there were a lot of good men in the Gestapo also
“Police lobbyists don't represent the average police man, remember that.”
What about the ones dragging moms out of parks or football games for not wearing masks?
Yup, they are scum, but just like hurting innocent people, it isn't the majority acting that way. It definitely happens, but most cops haven't bothered to intervene in such stupid things.
policeman is one of the top jobs for psychopaths, like politicians and executives
This and police shootings does not make all cops bastards.
I’m not insinuating cops are bastards, but there are some (could be many or few) that will follow orders even if they’re ridiculous or unconstitutional.
We should remember this before we say “don’t worry cops would totally be on our side!” Because we simply don’t know that.
That wasn't the point you made with this.
I would argue that we should be calling them out and demanding they start disobeying these orders. We are not doing this. We should be doing this, and loudly.
I would disagree that we should grossly generalize the police who overwhelmingly supported our President. I would argue that it the enemy spends a lot of energy attempting to drive wedges between us and the police, and now our military. If they are doing this then they have a strategy in place we are unprepared for.
I agree that calling them out is the right move, the police are supposed to protect and serve us the people. We need to change that idea that they merely work for local government because that’s what gives them power to “follow orders”. They work for us, the community and individual.
Cool story. Still not trusting cops.
Definitely not telling you to blindly trust anyone, especially cops! Never trust authorities blindly.
But just making it known that lobbyist groups and unions don't necessarily represent the most common views of the bunch.
They usually don't, so I don't blame union workers for the way their union decides to back their own demise.
You know the auto workers union sold out to Biden for a price. No way in hell they were representing their workers.
Westchester? I'm very curious about police attitudes in Westchester county, if that's where you are.
I don’t care. They’re all fucking traitors that deserve a noose.
into a corner
The police force exists To Protect and Serve the uni-party, not you
WHO IS FROM INDIANA ?? OH , PENCE IS FROM INDIANA. YOU KNOW NOW THAT YOU WILL LOSE YOUR GUNS IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM !
"Senators deny vote to uphold constitutional rights of citizens."
It was actually just the chair of a committee that blocked this. 1 person
Then we need him (her apparently) named, and stickied, later to be tarred and feathered.
FOUND UR PROBLEM M8
Her name is Liz Brown (public information). Let her know how you feel. Phone: 800-382-9467 or 317-232-9400 Email: [email protected]
Considering she's out of ft Wayne I'm not surprised. It's one of our big cities and it's a fucking cesspool. Just on a lower scale cause it is still Indiana.
She an NRA member, also big time right to life person. So it’s got to be these lobbyists pissing in her .
Cops don’t need a list to know who the legal gun owners are. They treat every traffic stop as though there is guns in the car. They know that the legal carriers aren’t the problem.
Just because she concedes some right wing points does not make her right wing. Until we begin using purity tests like the left our politicians are going to keep fucking us.
Trust me she was my city councilman /person and senator. She’s is conservative, she is just ignorant on what cops do. Every car could have a gun. Cops don’t check a database. They can later to charge a perp.
Brown is maybe a little too Catholic and passive about guns
Yeah I remember all those democrat politicians that disagree with certain points of the democrats plan too.
It's probably more the "woman" part than anything else. Emotional decision making, easily cowed with "for the children".
I am from Indiana. Stopping CC did not make sense so I did some reading on the bill. There was a rider added to constitutional carry for Indiana none of the other states have. The rider would act as a background check everytime anyone was stopped by police. A heavy infringement of rights.
Hoosier Gun Rights Org Their last three posts go into details.This letter especially.
They want a clean law that will stand up to legal scrutiny.
https://www.pdclarion.com/news/state/senate-leader-kills-proposal-to-eliminate-handgun-carry-licensing-in-indiana/article_0baa5d1f-ea6f-5d69-bfe8-dbe204253390.html Looks like Rod Bray is the outspoken opponent.
Rod Bray is the senate member who blocked this. Here’s his contact information (public information). Phone: 800-382-9467 or 317-232-9400 Email: [email protected]
Hmm. Why would law enforcement lobby against something that makes their jobs easier? Perhaps getting rid of criminals isn't actually what they're for?
Less crime, less need for them and our tax money.
This, here in NYC the nypd probably has a bigger militarized presence than a lot of countries, I'd rather have my 2nd amendment rights.
Did you read the article, or did you just accept the characterization of the OP?
*The truth the OP Presented.
FIFY
The one objection from police in the article involves accessibility of information concerning laws they're supposed to enforce. There's nothing there about lobbyists. It's not even clear that there was any direct opposition to the bill.
You're being CNN.
Objections from the police. Police are lobbying. Are they the voters?
There are 71 Republican senators. This would pass . We DON’T CARE WHAT THE POLICE HAVE TO SAY. our creator bestowed this right that “ SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”
If you don’t understand the process, then you are a cnn viewer
People like you are why we lose. You want things to be convenient and simple, and you don't want to have to learn how things work.
Laws that end up being unenforceable are also likely to be seen as unconstitutional. Even someone functioning at your level should be able to predict legal challenges to this law. Uneven enforcement due to the lack of available information is virtually a slam dunk.
And lobbying isn't what you think it is, either. None of this is simple. The second you try to put it on a bumper sticker, you're wrong. Bumper stickers are for herding sheep. The ignorance and stupidity of some people here when the police are brought up is demoralizing. People love the police, and people hate the police, and it is typically out of ignorance in both cases.
Yeah it is. The "complexity" is an illusion that exists to cover up the CORRUPTION.
Go back to Reddit.
The second amendment is not a right given to us by the government.
Once again, you oversimplify and break out a slogan (which misses the point). We need people like you who understand the principles of liberty, but we need you to get involved and learn what you're talking about. Ignorance will not advance the cause. If this were simple or easy, we'd still have a Constitution in place. The reason we don't is that too many people who thought they supported the Constitution didn't know how to defend it.
The more I work to get stuff done, the more I realize everyone else is working just to keep working.
When people realize open carry = no crime we won't need police.
More laws means more things that they can selectively enforce.
Police union thought-process: “If people can defend themselves, they may not feel the need to spend millions on police budgets... we can’t allow ourselves to be become obsolete”
In Indiana, there is plenty of revenue in requiring a CC permit as well.
Remember that a cop (an ass in a badge) is forever on the lookout for that one reason to harass anyone they think is 'suspicious.' A firearm, or a search for a firearm, or pretending they found a firearm, or claiming they saw a firearm, is top on the list for reasons to let the asshole out.
Restoring the right of the people to bear arms will take that away from them.
Not all of them. But way way too many. Which is a serious. Problem. We all need to stop cooperating with any and all of these tyrant agencies. Local and federal. No matter where you live. It's all on the line
"Fort Wayne Republican Sen. Liz Brown, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee where the bill has been sitting, declined to give the bill a hearing before the deadline, effectively killing the legislation." Why exactly does she have the power to deny a hearing of a bill that has passed the house?
The "Pocket veto" is abused far and wide.
The head of these committees have immense power that most people aren't aware of. Our system has been rigged against us for a long time.
BaCk ThE bLuE 🤡🌎
Not surprising. Some of us old enough to remember the Fudds from the 90s and the original "assault weapon" ban know the truth.
The road we are currently has a fork coming, and nobody knows we will reach it. When those 2 paths diverge though, they will both have pain and suffering, just a matter of who is suffering more.
I don't know what people in Indiana expected when they elected a woman.
19A was a mistake.
almost as bad as the 17th and 14th
They are all from the same Gay sauna bathhouses Mike Pence comes from. Same low T faggotery state.
Don't lump us all into one you dick
Stares longingly over the state line in based Chicagoan
Laughs in Gulf Coast 24/7 MAGA Rally
You should never give a fuck if people dis where you come from. I was born in CA. Back when it was truly the best state. I remember going to the gun store close to our house, my mom was scared of the night stalker. She took me with her to buy a ruger security 6 with the stainless finish, (.357 mag). Of course the guy recommended her .38 wadcutters. with nickel plated casings. Looking back I think that was an astute salesman because my mom had a limited experience shooting handguns. And that was a good first handgun to buy back in the mid 80s before the autoloaders were the standard.
Sorry to get off track I just love that gun she still lets me shoot it whenever I want. I bought her a bunch of new ammo for it. Some .38 special federal HST hollow points I think are +P as well. Way easier than shooting .357 but more stopping power and nastier wound than the 35 year old wadcutters she always kept in it.
But I just wanted to point out we took home that gun the same day. Idk if there was even background checks. I think Reagan had banned open carry already but that was about it. California was nothing like it is now politically speaking.
Being a conservative and being resilient enough to go against the hive mind isn't easy to do. I'm more impressed by people who hold strong in their beliefs when when every one is against you for irrational reasons
Okay fair enough
If you dont take a dump on Pence front lawn twice a week. You are part of the problem.
If I didn't live 3 hours away from him then I would. Every night
As a fellow Hoosier I am sick of these Rinos running Indiana. Governor Holcomb is a gutless coward and it's sad that so many here in Indiana just vote for him and the other Rinos just because they have an R next to their name.
I voted for Rainwater
Only about 10% of us had our shit together.
Holcomb is a huge RINO. All of his proposed legislation is leftist agenda bs. He lost my vote when his first proposal was adding a hate crime law. Most of the Hoosier legislators are fairly based, but there are enough RINOs to get in the way. Most people don’t pay attention to state politics.
ACAB.
All cops care about is revenue. That's why weed is still illegal, and that's why the second amendment has been flushed down the toilet. It's a miracle alcohol prohibition was ended.
The only reason it ended is because people rose up. If people flex their power, change happens. If they sit timidly, they get the boot on their face.
Stoners too lazy and not pissed enough
The use of leftist catch phrases is for faggots. Therefore, your opinion is invalid.
I cant gear you over the sound of MAGA.
We need to disarm the police
Totally agree. Or at least make them equal to the citizens. I want to see those police in CA use the featureless ARs with the fin grips. And 10 round mags.
Our leaders are all RINO'S. Vote em out!
Pence’s state. Understandable
Don’t judge me by pence. Or Holcomb.
Don’t judge me by blunt. Deal
We get more transplants from failing Chicago and Detroit every day. They move in and keep their social media friends, never talk to rural people, and complain that we don't do things the way Chicago does. What do you recommend we do to assimilate these people? 4th grade curriculum was the year of Indiana history in public school. What do you do when they get taught CRT during that year and then move to your state?
Beam me up God. I'm ready to leave.
that is what I was thinking, came to comments to see if anyone else was thinking the same thing.
From my understanding it was killed because of an amendment made to the bill giving the police a database of everyone with a carry permit on file to access during traffic stops. It’s bullshit that we didn’t get constitutional carry. It’s absolute horse shit that the police unions had an amendment tacked on to create a database of all people with a carry permit for them to access.
This lawyer explains in this letter the problems with the bill. It had legal problems that none of the 19 other states have.
they already do that....
There should always be a Rino to spoil the day. Take his name down and vote him out
"voting" lolololol
I'm from Indiana, and I couldn't care less about "Constitutional Carry". Indiana is a shall issue state. It's very easy to get a permit, I personally have a lifetime permit. 15% of Hoosiers have a CCW, the highest percent in the country! Exercising the right to keep and bear arms is not being denied in my state period.
I want nationwide reciprocity for people WHO HAVE PERMITS. I sucks that when I go next door to Ohio, I have to leave my pistol at home. That's the law we should be worried about.
Very easy to go to shall issue to shall not issues. If liberals get any type of arm they will take a leg.
I don't want just anybody to carry a gun. As it stands right now, if I get pulled over with a gun, I just whip out my permit, and I'm good to go. With CC, if I get pulled over, the cop will then need to find out whether I'm banned from carrying. I prefer having that question answered in advance.
Politicians aren't your friends.
I'm more and more convinced cops shouldn't be considered human beings every single day
POLICE ARE CITIZENS
They just fight tooth and nail to have a special class of citizen, who are allowed to defend their life with lethal force unlike us plebs
The only concern raised by police in the story is that they need information on who's not allowed to carry if they have to enforce the law. That's CNN levels of selective reading you got going on there.
Why would police not want citizens armed. Saves a lot of paper work if the perp is ice cold.
Indiana RINOs are the worst. Right, Mike?
They are all corrupt rinos like Pence
At the end of the day police are still just citizens. If the local citizens like being oppressed what can we do?
Back that blue bitches..
It's unbelievable how RINO Indiana is. 2020 was an eye opener.
That really sux. Sorry to hear that. All these new states help my argument for NV to look at CC.
Pence is gay
I’m “backing the blue” who uphold their oaths state and our federal constitutions, like many based sheriffs have done across our country within the last year. If you’re a cop shutting down a church service while allowing BLM to burn down cities, then you can eat a bag of d*cks
I don't understand the Senators in Indiana. We were one of the first states that had legal carry permits (back into the 1980s), but we lag behind on this and we were one of the first states to institute a bullshit "red flag" law (which has since been made slightly less unconstitutional). Indiana Republicans are too timid. They go out of their way to avoid being provocative in the slightest sense. When they do something provocative and face pressure from media groups (who hate what Republicans do, regardless), they fold like a cheap suit (e.g. Pence with the RFRA several years back). If Indiana were in Georgia's position regarding MLB, Coke, and Delta, they would've already repealed the election reform bill and capitulated to all the leftist demands.
Sorry... I'm angry in Indiana right now. >:(
Fuck.
Police are your friends.
Plenty of dirty scumbags in uniform these days.
Fuck the police. Sorry back the blue fanboys!! I never liked the police. I live in nyc and it has been a police state for 20 years now!!! Im not saying defund or we don't need them!!! We just don't need them writing tickets or harassing people who sell loose cigarettes for a quarter outside of deli on the corner street they themselves live on!!! IRS and tix nazis!! Most of them!!
RINOs are worse than democrats.
Another enemy that came out in this process was the National Association of Gun Rights and their indiana branch "Hoosier Gun Rights". They fought this bill and fed false information about some sort of database/poison pill the bill would set up and the two senators who were able to block this bill from moving forward used that as justification to outright ignore it and prevent it from getting a vote. Don't give them any money!
Cancel Liz next election.
To the gallows with them.
Funny, I don't recall the police having a right to bear arms...
RINOs are worse than Democrats, I'm almost at the point where I will come out to vote for the Democrat just so the RINO loses, rather than just not showing up.
At least I know where the Democrat stands, she's gonna stab me in the face not the back.
I have never voted for a Democrat in my life but there is some merit to your line of thinking vs any RINO that survives a primary. The RINO would be out, the Dem helps the other Dems screw things up, the people are pissed and we vote a MAGA into office in the next cycle.
Same in GA
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Fuck that entire piece of cock-sucking cowards.
Indiana: Grow a pair and drag that weak-kneed cock gobbler from her office and make her put it to a vote. Call her day and night. Put her name in the editorial section. Be sure to get multiple threads going questioning her mental well being. Start slanderous rumors of her sleeping with the police unions reps.
Make them feel from us what they fear the left will do to them. But be more viscous about it. Make all RINOs be on alert that their careers, their home life, their spouses home and work life will be destroyed for cucking out.
Either they stand strong and do what is right in the face of evil, or we show them a taste of the evil they are letting in.
I’m glad people are seeing this now. Previously Rinos could kill votes without it being reported, and continue to pretend to stand up for the constitution. No longer!!
Yep get rid of them.
The more these weak ass fucks are exposed the more they're going to be outed and the more they're going to lose their jobs!
Yup same outcry police had when every other state got constitutional carry (police are dirty liberals who only want the government to have guns)
ACAB