I dont want u to be polite. I take u at ur word, take me at mine. I am not upset, and u shouldnt be either. We just disagree and thats fine. I just dont want to be told that we should reject God in society because that has led to a lot of the ills in society imo.
Pretending you dont have snark is just disingenous. I have it too, and I dont pretend not to.
I don't need to pretend to be polite to people on the internet whom ill never really meet. I say what's on my mind. I'm just not an overtly combative person. You just have this odd understanding of atheism and how it injects other beliefs into peoples minds. Do you blame socialism on the lack of belief in the tooth fairy? Or better yet, how does christianity prevent socialism?
I'll admit this to you that I did grow up as a christian. I had preachers show up to my church and complain about the evil satan worshiping atheists. I fully understand why you hate them so much. I also know that islam teaches that anyone that leaves the muslim faith should be put to death. When you have a belief system that scares you into staying, it may not really be worth having. After leaving the faith my rape and murder count are still both at zero. Maybe im not that great of an atheist :p
Yeah, its just it goes hand in hand. There are exceptions. I grant you that, but we should not operate on the whole based upon the fact exceptions exist. Thats my argument. Not very well stated by me, but stated nonetheless.
Dude, I really do believe socialism and atheism go together because that is what Karl Marx wrote. I dont base it on nothing. He wanted to end religion because it competed with communism. I say dont end religion.
The "opiate of the masses" has some truth to it. Without it communism spread death and destruction of freedom. It is antithetical to MAGA, therefore to rid the movement of God. Make sense?
I'll come off my horse too. Yes there are lots of atheists out there who hate religious people, but they normally hate religion more. Yes I will admit that if all you taught people is that we are biological machines and we have zero consequences to our actions that our society would fall apart. That's why its still important to teach right from wrong. Atheists still feel the same emotions you do. Most of would recoil at the thought of rape, not because we are scared of a lake of fire, but because in our core being we can empathize how we would feel if that happened to our mothers, or wife, or daughters. If i see a dog get hit by a car i feel bad even thought it did not have a soul, do you? Why would you care about something without a soul?
I went through a period in my life where i thought it was bad to indoctrinate children to say the pledge of allegiance every day. In my mind at that time i looked at it like north korea. They are forced to worship dear leader so they will be mindless drones. I felt that you should love america because its ACTUALLY the best, not just because someone told you it was the best over and over.
Needless to say I've change my position here a bit. Yes I think we should force kids to love America and freedom, but I also think we should fully explain why when they are old enough to understand.
I think socialism is often rooted in people that think the world owes them something. They were never taught to be self reliant and earn. I also think socialism can be the product of unfettered capitalism. If you look at the wealth gap in the US it feels that more and more billionaires are steering our ship. At some point there is a revolt. That revolt will come from those who are the have nots. The have nots will want a system that was not like the one before. Its a very difficult balancing game to make a system that encourages freedom, but at the same time is not manipulated by the 1%.
I dont want u to be polite. I take u at ur word, take me at mine. I am not upset, and u shouldnt be either. We just disagree and thats fine. I just dont want to be told that we should reject God in society because that has led to a lot of the ills in society imo.
Pretending you dont have snark is just disingenous. I have it too, and I dont pretend not to.
I don't need to pretend to be polite to people on the internet whom ill never really meet. I say what's on my mind. I'm just not an overtly combative person. You just have this odd understanding of atheism and how it injects other beliefs into peoples minds. Do you blame socialism on the lack of belief in the tooth fairy? Or better yet, how does christianity prevent socialism?
I'll admit this to you that I did grow up as a christian. I had preachers show up to my church and complain about the evil satan worshiping atheists. I fully understand why you hate them so much. I also know that islam teaches that anyone that leaves the muslim faith should be put to death. When you have a belief system that scares you into staying, it may not really be worth having. After leaving the faith my rape and murder count are still both at zero. Maybe im not that great of an atheist :p
Yeah, its just it goes hand in hand. There are exceptions. I grant you that, but we should not operate on the whole based upon the fact exceptions exist. Thats my argument. Not very well stated by me, but stated nonetheless.
Dude, I really do believe socialism and atheism go together because that is what Karl Marx wrote. I dont base it on nothing. He wanted to end religion because it competed with communism. I say dont end religion.
The "opiate of the masses" has some truth to it. Without it communism spread death and destruction of freedom. It is antithetical to MAGA, therefore to rid the movement of God. Make sense?
Not attacking now. Ive come off my high horse!
I'll come off my horse too. Yes there are lots of atheists out there who hate religious people, but they normally hate religion more. Yes I will admit that if all you taught people is that we are biological machines and we have zero consequences to our actions that our society would fall apart. That's why its still important to teach right from wrong. Atheists still feel the same emotions you do. Most of would recoil at the thought of rape, not because we are scared of a lake of fire, but because in our core being we can empathize how we would feel if that happened to our mothers, or wife, or daughters. If i see a dog get hit by a car i feel bad even thought it did not have a soul, do you? Why would you care about something without a soul?
I went through a period in my life where i thought it was bad to indoctrinate children to say the pledge of allegiance every day. In my mind at that time i looked at it like north korea. They are forced to worship dear leader so they will be mindless drones. I felt that you should love america because its ACTUALLY the best, not just because someone told you it was the best over and over.
Needless to say I've change my position here a bit. Yes I think we should force kids to love America and freedom, but I also think we should fully explain why when they are old enough to understand.
I think socialism is often rooted in people that think the world owes them something. They were never taught to be self reliant and earn. I also think socialism can be the product of unfettered capitalism. If you look at the wealth gap in the US it feels that more and more billionaires are steering our ship. At some point there is a revolt. That revolt will come from those who are the have nots. The have nots will want a system that was not like the one before. Its a very difficult balancing game to make a system that encourages freedom, but at the same time is not manipulated by the 1%.
Sorry for the wall of text.