A joke, and christian. And yeah, your god is invented, just like any other. Less religious countries tend to be happier and not-shitholes, unlike religious countries.
You're a slave to your imaginary friend who'll torture you forever if you reject him and don't worship and serve him forever and ever. Don't worry though, I think a car should be close enough to an iron chariot to keep me safe. He can't beat those.
I'm a slave to the good, the beautiful and the true. Things like the rainbow. That's God. It's not part of the material world. In the material world, the rainbow is merely light being fractured as it passes through raindrops. But it's real, it's beautiful and it's there nonetheless. You can ignore it all you want. It doesn't make God any less real.
Without God, you have no society alright? There's no morality outside of the good, the beautiful and the true. You need to be able to say that rape is wrong, because we can all recognize that it's wrong. It's an objective part of reality. But you can't do that if you don't acknowledge God. It's all "just your opinion". It's all subjective. Because in the material world, it doesn't matter. A rock doesn't care about rape.
You're a slave to the egotistical, narcissistic god of slavery, incest, and total planetary genocide. Rainbows are entirely material. Ever played with a hose? Am I a god for being able to make rainbows as I please? What if I think rainbows are ugly?
There were advanced societies before christianity, and there were and still are advanced societies without christianity. There is no objective morality, but we can derive moral tenets through what continues the society, and the empathy we evolved as a social species. Rape is wrong because it causes harm to at the very least one other member of the society, and because we can empathize with the victim and understand it's not something we'd like done to us.
Yeah, I've heard that junk before, and I don't find it in the least convincing.
No, they're not entirely material. If there hadn't been anyone there to measure the raindrop and the light in the first place, what would be left of their existence? The fact of the matter is, every single raindrop is carrying a potential rainbow which is just "waiting" to be discovered by a conscious being.
Yeah, you can have advanced societies without Christianity. You can rank them on a scale. The more it likens a Christian society, in morality and philosophy, the more advanced it will be.
"Rape is wrong because it causes harm to at the very least one other member of the society, and because we can empathize with the victim and understand it's not something we'd like done to us."
Whatever maaan. That's just like... your opinion. If people genuinely believed that there is no God, what incentive would they have to accept this line of thinking? You are just one guy with a voice.
You don't find it convincing because, like I said, you have a personal vendetta against Christianity. It's so obvious, because anyone who genuinely cares about truth, reason and morality would see that Christianity is not like other religions in this regard. We are your closest ally in the world, and yet you treat us like your mortal enemy. No other religion even discusses these things. It's all about doing the rituals and following the scriptures. We invented science. We ended the slave trade. We out bred the rest of the world. We founded numerous high trust societies. The witch trials? 3000 people died in the whole of the Spanish Inquisition (which lasted over 300 years years). 13 of them were witches. Read some history.
The sweet spot is a secular government and a homogeneously religious population.
It's possible to fuse the two by worshipping the Creator-God of Nature and Reason, which is the True God of Europeans. We always circle back, no matter what religious label or doctrine we embrace. God of Nature means if science and the holy words disagree, we must be interpreting the words wrong.
Who's We?
Christ is and will always be King.
My bad Patriopede.
I'm upset about the misdirection of Our Country.
God Bless Fren.
Ah yes, morality, like witch burnings and slavery. Nah, we became a lot more moral when we moved to secular government and away from religious.
disagree . . . we shall see what the future holds for your ideals youngster
God Bless
Future's looking pretty good
Good luck with that as you grow up . . .
God bless
Sure. Friendly reminder the US government is more christian than the general population, by a fair bit.
LMFAO . . . the gubmint is a joke
I am a Christian by choice
If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him - Voltaire
A joke, and christian. And yeah, your god is invented, just like any other. Less religious countries tend to be happier and not-shitholes, unlike religious countries.
ah, so much energy, so young, full on keyboard warrior
Less religious countries tend to be happier and not-shitholes
read and learn history
What? Burning witches and keeping slaves, that's below the pagans?
You have a personal vendetta against Christianity. There's no winning a debate with you people. You are SJW.
I'm not pagan. If you noticed, I said "religious", not "christian".
Yes you are. You are a slave to the material world. That makes you a pagan.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pagan
You're a slave to your imaginary friend who'll torture you forever if you reject him and don't worship and serve him forever and ever. Don't worry though, I think a car should be close enough to an iron chariot to keep me safe. He can't beat those.
I'm a slave to the good, the beautiful and the true. Things like the rainbow. That's God. It's not part of the material world. In the material world, the rainbow is merely light being fractured as it passes through raindrops. But it's real, it's beautiful and it's there nonetheless. You can ignore it all you want. It doesn't make God any less real.
Without God, you have no society alright? There's no morality outside of the good, the beautiful and the true. You need to be able to say that rape is wrong, because we can all recognize that it's wrong. It's an objective part of reality. But you can't do that if you don't acknowledge God. It's all "just your opinion". It's all subjective. Because in the material world, it doesn't matter. A rock doesn't care about rape.
I hope this clarified some things for you.
You're a slave to the egotistical, narcissistic god of slavery, incest, and total planetary genocide. Rainbows are entirely material. Ever played with a hose? Am I a god for being able to make rainbows as I please? What if I think rainbows are ugly?
There were advanced societies before christianity, and there were and still are advanced societies without christianity. There is no objective morality, but we can derive moral tenets through what continues the society, and the empathy we evolved as a social species. Rape is wrong because it causes harm to at the very least one other member of the society, and because we can empathize with the victim and understand it's not something we'd like done to us.
Yeah, I've heard that junk before, and I don't find it in the least convincing.
No, they're not entirely material. If there hadn't been anyone there to measure the raindrop and the light in the first place, what would be left of their existence? The fact of the matter is, every single raindrop is carrying a potential rainbow which is just "waiting" to be discovered by a conscious being.
Yeah, you can have advanced societies without Christianity. You can rank them on a scale. The more it likens a Christian society, in morality and philosophy, the more advanced it will be.
"Rape is wrong because it causes harm to at the very least one other member of the society, and because we can empathize with the victim and understand it's not something we'd like done to us."
Whatever maaan. That's just like... your opinion. If people genuinely believed that there is no God, what incentive would they have to accept this line of thinking? You are just one guy with a voice.
You don't find it convincing because, like I said, you have a personal vendetta against Christianity. It's so obvious, because anyone who genuinely cares about truth, reason and morality would see that Christianity is not like other religions in this regard. We are your closest ally in the world, and yet you treat us like your mortal enemy. No other religion even discusses these things. It's all about doing the rituals and following the scriptures. We invented science. We ended the slave trade. We out bred the rest of the world. We founded numerous high trust societies. The witch trials? 3000 people died in the whole of the Spanish Inquisition (which lasted over 300 years years). 13 of them were witches. Read some history.
The sweet spot is a secular government and a homogeneously religious population.
It's possible to fuse the two by worshipping the Creator-God of Nature and Reason, which is the True God of Europeans. We always circle back, no matter what religious label or doctrine we embrace. God of Nature means if science and the holy words disagree, we must be interpreting the words wrong.
That just sounds like an unnecessary extra element to me.
Yes, and the All-Father is still waiting for us to return to Him. European culture went astray when we abandoned our God, Woden.
meh, he got wednesday named for him . . .