If I "internally feel" that I am fat but I'm not, that's called Anorexia Nervousa... A mental illness. If I internally feel that everyone around me is plotting my demise but they are not that's called paranoia... a mental illness. If I internally feel anxious even though there is no legitimate danger, that's called anxiety disorder. It's important to point out, in all of these conditions, the sufferers may be intellectually aware that their delusion is not real. For example, people with anxiety disorder often have these anxieties, the fight or flight response, while being completely aware that there is nothing to fear.... But they still feel that way. It's a mental illness. They know it's not real, but they can't help it. We don't help people with anxiety disorder by pretending there is a legitimate reason for them to be fearful.
When someone internally feels that they are male, even though they are female (or vice versa), that too is a mental illness. We do them harm by pretending it's true just as it would be harmful to pretend an anorexic is really fat.
People have tried this argument since this crap started, and it doesn't work.
The left is immune to logical reasoning. They get their kicks by making up excuses to feel they're right about the most ridiculous things.
Indeed. The way to get to them is to out-stupid them. Claim to be a quadriplegic, blind, deaf, homosexual woman of color who survived the Holocaust, and current Queen of Dahomey. Demand to be treated with all of the respect, reverence, and care that such a life demands by their own idiotic standards. Any time they question any of it, verbally abuse them twice as hard as they would do to you. Take their stupidity, push it to the extremes, and shove their faces in it until they either treat you like the Second Coming of Christ or admit their ideology is moronic. Either way, you win.
lol, exactly. They want to humiliate you, so mock them relentlessly using their own idiocy and they'll back down. Once they realize they've been had they'll surrender. Use their lack of a spine against them.
Don’t use logic, use emotional appeals, like mockery, derision, & exclusion.
It's the logical endpoint of the crap we were all taught growing up. In America you can be whatever you want!
Totally. They've got shirts for little girls now that say "believe in unicorns."
Weird. I heard that all the time growing up and never thought it had anything to do with anything other than an occupation. Even as a child this was obvious to me. But then again we didn’t have the internet or Commie teachers where I grew up.
No amount of logic will convince a zealot.
You can't use logic to change an opinion that wasn't reached using logic.
Realizing this can save so much time.
The doctor show with Freddie Highmore already covered this. The doc with Aspergers force fed the woman with anorexia and chopped off the dick of the boy with gender dysphoria.
Zero awareness.
They know it causes harm.
These people are just useful IDIOTS.
You shouldn't put to much effort into arguing with IDIOTS.
You should if it’s in front of people that might fall victim to the same nonsense. Ridicule and shame their dangerous and delirious ideas.
Oh I definitely leave a trail so people understand what the actual answer is but you can't try to change the mind of the one you are engaging with.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
The application of intellectual logic to the rotten liberal mind is a waste of our time.
They just modify the meaning of words, create their own "science".
Thank you for sharing that and I agree.
I simply don't understood the way gender dysphoria is currently being 'treated.' You don't treat a schizophrenic who thinks someone is out to get him by telling him, "You're right, let's go find some more hidden messages in the clouds." You don't treat an anorexic who weighs 80 pounds and thinks she's fat by telling her, "You're right, you're a fattie. Maybe you should try bulimia, too?" You don't treat a bipolar case by telling him, "Yes, you just ride that mania for days and days, it'll be fun!"
So how does it make sense to tell someone with gender dysphoria, "You're right. Despite the fact that you are a man, since you feel female right at this stage in your life, you are indeed a female! How about we give you some hormones to block puberty and consider chopping off that dick sometime in the future?"
WHY is gender dysphoria not treated the same as any other mental illness? It makes absolutey no sense.
You know, there's also that one fetish for getting your limbs chopped off...and sadly the folks into this sometimes find a willing doc. And if they can't? They get themselves injured to the point that a doc is forced into it.
different problems have different treatments.
It’s not about logic. It’s about not being mean to people. The left would rather lie to people than to make them feel bad. Doing so makes them feel good about themselves
Can we cut all this phobicphobia out? It's not a good look.
I don't talk to authoritarian leftist assholes. Life is too short.
Got into a debate with friend about this. My belief is that people who want to cut off their limbs have body dysmorphia..some people want to cut off their arms, blind themselves, some hate their penis. Her rebuttal is that they don't just want to chop off their penises they want to add things too (like brrast implants) and many people get plastic surgery so it's not the same thing.
You cannot reason somebody out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
I straight up ask people the difference between anorexia and trans identity and they just get pissed. So I offer up 41% suicide is the difference.
Logic alone doesn’t work. Use logic plus IDGAF attitude.
That’s way too reasonable for clown world.
I say we prescribe ipecac to the bulimic.
On a real note, been using this argument for years now at this point. They can’t argue against it, so they just gloss over it and go on to further repeat their demented crap else where. They’re just perverse and vile people.
You can't logic someone out of a position that they did not logic themselves into.
True. Remember, though, that we're talking about people whose M.O. is delusion.
Logic, reasoning, and efficacy of science is just part of the malleable metanarrative for leftists.
Liberals are stupid fucking animals that are now beneath any effort to speak to as though they are human. They are incapable of understanding facts.
Right...But we should still tell them to kill themselves.
You have these conversations with people?
Weird it's just something I see on pathetic parts of the internet that I tend to avoid.
I have enjoyed trolling them on reddit for. Couple of days