It's a false equivalence, but he does have a point. Over the last few months I've seen this place become infested with bitchy, mopey doomers who act like there's no point in fighting or trying anymore and that we should all just lay down and die.
This. I understand being dejected and feeling it is pointless to vote or get involved, but to whine and gripe and simply spout "1776" is stupid as fuck. Do something, get involved somehow. Honestly, at times, seeing how a lot of conservatives have behaved throughout this all has been more demoralizing to me than just about anything from the left.
Despite that, I am still trying to be involved locally. Also finding that I really need to spend less time online, even on more conservative themed sites.
Egg fucking xactly man. It's time to start reporting these people because most of these people are not real Trump supporters, they are either q-tards or leftist shills, but I repeat myself. I'm not going to watch this sub get ruined, it's time for the mods to fucking do something about this.
Sounds like a familiar argument that progressives used to get joe in so he could give them ubi, free health care, college, no kids in cages, etc. They got nothing of what they wanted.
I understand, but most of us Doomers don’t want to lay down and die. Most of us are trying to wake people up so you can realize that voting is not the way to fight.
There’s another way to fight, and I feel like a lot of Conservatives are afraid to go there.
This is the truth, the "vote our way out of this" crowd are the ones trying to give us false hope so we don't resort to violence. Unless dominion is eliminated from all states, audits take place, and we put Trump back in office as the President, then I won't trust the vote or the legal system. The system is rigged and until it's fixed, voting is useless. Can we get the GOP to audit the votes? ... to be fair they are in some places. Can we get rid of dominion machines (its looking unlikely) but they have been prevented from expanding. Can we take over the weak GOP Rinos ? ..not if they are using dominion to cheat. I really hope the nonviolent route can work but they are gonna pass this HR1 bill now which will eliminate any chance of a fair vote in the future. Bill is mistaken we haven't given up, it's just that we realize playing a losing game because we follow the rules (while the enemy cheats) is not the way to win.
I feel exactly the same. Hope and vote all we want, this WILL take violence. Soo many are feverishly hoping that we can vote our way out, we'll try but its highly unlikely it works imo. We'll see
Yup, you can vote your way into communism but you've almost always gotta shoot your way out.
They've taken away any trust in the vote and legal methods to fix things are being ignored and suppressed. Now they're trying to enforce gun legislation.
What alternative is left? There doesn't seem to be a non-violent path out of this mess when every watchdog and representative is on the payroll.
No one is saying we are going to vote our problems away.
The most vocal people here in regards to this have been clear that voting is a necessary (even a necessary evil at times) first step to improve things.
No one is portraying voting as a universal single solution except for you in order to purposely create dissent.
Voting is one piece of a larger puzzle. Getting involved at the grassroots is the answer to corrupted elections, states pushing back against federal overreach, convention of states, etc.
All the "voting doesn't matter" does is come off as "give up and die".
This can only have 2 effects. People give up, or they go lone wolf and start shooting up some mall somewhere so the left can enforce their narrative. IT SERVES NO VALID PURPOSE WHATSOEVER!
If you want to gripe, fine. But if you're trying to pull others down with you rather than look for direction or ways to organize, you're probably a glowie.
And on the reverse side we got another huge group that are way too hopeful and believe we can just vote our way out and not wanting to get more involved than that(and not talking violence, but seriously looking into 2020, getting our people into local, forcing a change in election practices). We need to get to that middle ground between these two groups if we want to have a hope of making it through this.
Exactly. The voters and non violent crowd come off as complacent and unwilling to truly do what it takes to save the union.
Do they think we want violence? I sure don't. But legal and peaceful methods seem to lead to us being led in circles while the noose tightens. Nothing we do legally ever provides tangible results.
Hey that’s just what I’m seeing on here, people either too hopeful to do anything or too depressed to try. If you think you’re already in the middle great we need ya.
I mean, my state voted for Trump and didn't use Dominion.
They cheated, they rigged it, but giving up is stupid. They cheat in California, they cheat in New York, but the election only came down to 5-6 cities with rampant fraud.
And either way, your state laws matter way more than federal, you also have way more control over what your city or state do. Democrats dig in deep, nonstop, and that's why we are where we are.
democrats didn't get busy, all they did was push impeachment, which was sloppy and lazy. they stoked anger and violence through antifa and blm, fear through covid and then waited until election day to cheat! they did as little work as possible knowing they were going to cheat anyway...
Lots of Democrat voters seemed convinced that Trump actually shook hands with Putin and changed the election somehow. Double think is a very real thing amongst liberals.
Democrats never thought that their own party was in bed with Trump. They never believed that their own representatives were willingly giving up their own power. A big part of the dooming here is based on that fact. There is no real organization to represent us - just a few people who have no real power. We're stuck with fucking Mitch in charge. Pelosi and Schumer would never bend over the way Republican "leadership" does.
That's not what I said, I live in a deep blue area and have spoken to people that believe to this day that Putin steals elections, they believe this unironically.
The funniest part is even after Trump won he was demanding audits. Everyone shutdown and would not comply. Jill Stein did get one going but when Trump started picking up votes they dropped it. Republicans had all the power to lean hard on audits, cleaning voter rolls. They did jack squat. Judical Watch did win one CA case to clean the books but CA never complied. Nobody has said shit. GOP by and large are one in the same as the DNC.
The 2018 midterms was a trial run, with them stealing multiple seats and getting away with it, so 2020 was predictable. The only surprise in 2020 was how obvious the fraud was and the courts allowing it to stand and refusing to even hear the cases. I guess the absolute failure of the GOP to put up any fight was a surprise to some as well.
Democrats got busy ACTUALLY CHEATING. Republicans didn't both to challenge it at all. No point in voting if the right will allow the left to cheat at will.
Quit being a faggot. The country is pretty much done. The Republican party is not going to fight for you at all. They don't work for you. They work for the democrats. Their job is just to move you along down the chain 2 single party control of everything. They never stand up for themselves at all
isn't that what you're bitching about? what kind of fool would bitch about what they perceive as "crying" only to tell people to do it more... the kind of fool that thinks he can beat the left by voting.
We watched as the election was stolen. We watched as the GOP ran and did nothing to fight for voter integrity. We watched the courts refuse to take on voter fraud cases. I GET HIS POINT but until we have the right people fighting the big fight with voter rolls, voter I.D., and those Dominion machines, please share with us how the average American can make a difference.
Yeah, it would look unseemly to disagree with CNN and The New York Times about something. Can't fucking stand up at all for the people that put you in office.
Yeah but Trump didn’t cheat. They blatantly did. And nobody cares but us. We should still vote and do more work to stop cheating. But that’s the difference.
The difference is that the same courts and "justice system" that slept through the Democrat steal and facilitated the illegitimate government installation will drop the fucking hammer on the slightest impropriety when we do it. I mean, look what they did to Dinesh D'Sousa and what they are doing right now to the capitol protesters.
Exactly. They fake 1,000 ballots...we fake 2,000. I want to see a situation where EVERY precinct has more votes than registered voters. If the Left has no problem with doxxing people on our side with paid thugs, we have to stop taking the high road and saying, "We don't resort to those tactics." Within minutes of Josh Hawley claiming he would challenge certification he had paid thugs outside of his home. Is anyone expecting us to believe that all those people simply knew Hawley's home address offhand and organized organically to gather outside of his home? Please.
Actually, all they do is spend their money to pay people to act like a violent mob. The people controlling the piles of money on our side choose to spend the money on themselves. Every phone call I've gotten from GOP/Conservatives looking for donations for the last year have been met with a "go fuck yourselves."
Fuck these faggots. There not trying to do anything to stop anything the democrats are doing. You've got republicans supporting chemical castration of children and plugging in critical race theory garbage into classrooms that has white kids apologising to black kids for shit people did a 150 years ago.
But I agree. It's stupid to say "I'll never vote Republican again". Then that means the Democrat psyop worked. The psyop to demoralize you and crush the Republican party completely.
The solution isn't to abstain from voting republican. The solution is a MAGA takeover of the GOP from the local level to the federal.
Baloney! We have no idea how many Democrats actually turned out to vote. The whole election was fake. All elections are fake. Go away with your "I believe in Democracy" bullshit.
The freak you talking about, we know for a fact their voter turnout was at all time lows, heck we picked up probably 5 million of them to our side. Don’t get me wrong there was a very vocal minority that lost its mind but I’d be shocked if Biden actually limped over 60 million real votes.
We vote, they rig the election. We challenge it in court, they refuse to hear it. We show up and protest, get arrested and declared insurrectionists.
Become a precinct committeeman? Ok great, that works on the local level, they still control the federal level.
Run for Congress? Ok, then you can be like MTG and Boebert and be labeled super fringe and have them constantly attack you and keep you from getting good committee spots. And that is IF you run and they don’t either steal the election from you, make up some bullshit and get you removed, or make up bullshit that their friends in the media will push and make people not vote for you.
You can cite Jim Jordan or Ron Paul or Josh Hawley all you want. That’s three guys, with three votes. Or shit, even Nunez. Look at what he’s uncovered and talked about, and the deafening silence it’s been met with.
Let’s say you actually make it to Congress. Ok, now contend with the Lindsey Grahams and Bitch McConnells who are equally as bad as any on the left.
We had control of all three branches and absolutely not one thing was done to help Trump. We are constantly fucked by our own side. This is what some don’t get. I’m not a doomer. I think we can save the republic. The unfortunate thing is that no one knows how, and suggesting certain methods is verboten.
If we don’t identify and resolve the root cause, nothing will change. And the root cause is crooked politicians. Personally, I think paying them is the first mistake. Allowing corporations to act as persons is also part of the problem, in the political realm.
Until we set things back to OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE, we are in for a rough go.
I wonder if he realizes that Biden probably had the lowest number of living, legitimate voters turn out for him. So in effect, they didn’t show up. If it wasn’t for all the vote switching and fake ballots, Biden wouldn’t have won. Actual voter turnout will never matter again as long as these systems are still in place.
Except Trump didn’t cheat and couldn’t have even if he wanted to, and the Uniparty did cheat and can do so indefinitely because their own courts are never going to make them stop.
There are solutions. None of them involve trying to beat the Uniparty within the rules (rules which only apply when it suits them) of their own rigged system.
It is less "they cheated and I will never vote again" and more "they cheated and the people we elected to represent us are OK with it" is what got a lot of people discouraged. That is the biggest difference, if the Republicans fought like hell for Trump and against the fraud then more people would have continued fighting. It is going to take time for most people to trust the system again.
I don't think Democrats truly thought Trump cheated. They were just rationalizing how Hillary could lose when they themselves cheated but not hard enough in the blue cities like detroit, philly.
Hillary was so bad she made Bernie look like a good candidate.
Fuck this guy. The Democrats are cheating pieces of shit. Conservatives want fair elections, not to steal them better. The Democrats have no standards, utterly retarded talking points, and rule by fear. The Democrats want to bastardize the constitution and enslave the population while making it look legitimate. Absolutely evil.
Fuck this guy for comparing the two sets of people.
Democrats cheated bigly. President Trump got record number of votes by a lot and still “lost”.
Why in the absolute fuck do any republicans DESERVE our votes when they let it happen and some were in on the steal?
fuckups that I pinched my nose and voted for “because they aren’t democrats” aren’t getting my vote again. Besides a few select people who are actually fighting, why in the world would I waste my time giving out of touch republicans a vote? I showed up because president Trump asked me to and they stabbed him and by proxy, us, in the back. Fuck them all
When Dems "get mad and busy" they're bailed out by celebrities, heralded as heroes by the media, and get their own flavor of ice cream. When Conservatives do it, they're called "terrorists" and put in jail.
The more perfervid the rhetoric on both sides becomes, the harder it is not to succumb to rage and to despair---if you have to unplug from the Noise to stay focused on the end goal occasionally, do so. Giving up is NOT an option---this is a global war and no one is exempt anywhere...
A conundrum here is that part of the DNC plan simply involved flooding the government at every level with frauds, simpletons, and lazy pieces of shit.
We try to avoid those people at all costs, and they are the majority. Some of their votes can be converted to support the forces of good, but it's temporary. These people are slaves to short term pleasure.
MAGA is a journey, and a difficult one at that. Similar to Christianity, which is why there are so many charlatans there as well. Giving up obviously is wrong, and probably a crime against humanity given what we're up against. We're just going to need a completely different strategy.
Given we're not going to face a physical invasion to get tleven the most normiest of normies motivated, I don't know what large-scale strategy that would be.
Not a good parallel. Democrats knew Trump didn't actually cheat. They were just salty. On the other hand, anyone who watched the 2020 election, even if they wanted Biden, knew exactly what happened. I'm not talking about the videos, affidavits, statistics, whistleblowers, lawsuits etc. If you watched it that night, you knew exactly what happened. They didn't even try to hide it. They just pretended it never happened and silence anyone who spoke out.
The problem with this statement is that the left got busy cheating because they can't win a fair election.
Us on the right want fair elections and don't want to cheat to win, so how do we overcome this when the very entities that are supposed to guard our elections are part of the problem?
That's because Trump didn't cheat and the democrats did.
It's a case of false equivalence.
It's a false equivalence, but he does have a point. Over the last few months I've seen this place become infested with bitchy, mopey doomers who act like there's no point in fighting or trying anymore and that we should all just lay down and die.
This. I understand being dejected and feeling it is pointless to vote or get involved, but to whine and gripe and simply spout "1776" is stupid as fuck. Do something, get involved somehow. Honestly, at times, seeing how a lot of conservatives have behaved throughout this all has been more demoralizing to me than just about anything from the left.
Despite that, I am still trying to be involved locally. Also finding that I really need to spend less time online, even on more conservative themed sites.
The resistance you seek will materialize when HARD COMMUNISM has vanquished the GOP Operation Trust illusion.
The Mafia cannot be reformed. It must be DESTROYED. Until then, YOU will be destroyed.
DON'T EVER ASK ME TO VOTE FOR THE MAFIA AGAIN.
Bill Mitchell is implying that Trump actually lost and wasn’t cheated out of the Presidency. He’s a dumbass and he’s wrong
"I'm nOt a DoOmEr, i'M A rEaLiSt!"
Whenever I hear that, I wish it was physically possible to strangle someone through a computer monitor.
You might be an asshole if...
Egg fucking xactly man. It's time to start reporting these people because most of these people are not real Trump supporters, they are either q-tards or leftist shills, but I repeat myself. I'm not going to watch this sub get ruined, it's time for the mods to fucking do something about this.
Hey. Fuck you too buddy. I'm not voting for GOP bastards that capitulate.
That means that you're voting for communists.
Sounds like a familiar argument that progressives used to get joe in so he could give them ubi, free health care, college, no kids in cages, etc. They got nothing of what they wanted.
No it means I'm not voting. Let them wallow in their own shit.
I understand, but most of us Doomers don’t want to lay down and die. Most of us are trying to wake people up so you can realize that voting is not the way to fight.
There’s another way to fight, and I feel like a lot of Conservatives are afraid to go there.
This is the truth, the "vote our way out of this" crowd are the ones trying to give us false hope so we don't resort to violence. Unless dominion is eliminated from all states, audits take place, and we put Trump back in office as the President, then I won't trust the vote or the legal system. The system is rigged and until it's fixed, voting is useless. Can we get the GOP to audit the votes? ... to be fair they are in some places. Can we get rid of dominion machines (its looking unlikely) but they have been prevented from expanding. Can we take over the weak GOP Rinos ? ..not if they are using dominion to cheat. I really hope the nonviolent route can work but they are gonna pass this HR1 bill now which will eliminate any chance of a fair vote in the future. Bill is mistaken we haven't given up, it's just that we realize playing a losing game because we follow the rules (while the enemy cheats) is not the way to win.
I feel exactly the same. Hope and vote all we want, this WILL take violence. Soo many are feverishly hoping that we can vote our way out, we'll try but its highly unlikely it works imo. We'll see
Yup, you can vote your way into communism but you've almost always gotta shoot your way out.
They've taken away any trust in the vote and legal methods to fix things are being ignored and suppressed. Now they're trying to enforce gun legislation.
What alternative is left? There doesn't seem to be a non-violent path out of this mess when every watchdog and representative is on the payroll.
This is such a dumbass straw man.
No one is saying we are going to vote our problems away.
The most vocal people here in regards to this have been clear that voting is a necessary (even a necessary evil at times) first step to improve things.
No one is portraying voting as a universal single solution except for you in order to purposely create dissent.
Lead by example, tough guy.
Voting is one piece of a larger puzzle. Getting involved at the grassroots is the answer to corrupted elections, states pushing back against federal overreach, convention of states, etc.
All the "voting doesn't matter" does is come off as "give up and die".
This can only have 2 effects. People give up, or they go lone wolf and start shooting up some mall somewhere so the left can enforce their narrative. IT SERVES NO VALID PURPOSE WHATSOEVER!
If you want to gripe, fine. But if you're trying to pull others down with you rather than look for direction or ways to organize, you're probably a glowie.
You’re still worried about optics?
No, I'm worried about desperate people getting roped into something they don't deserve.
That is a valid concern. I don’t want that to happen, either.
Be a paramilitary larper somewhere else.
And on the reverse side we got another huge group that are way too hopeful and believe we can just vote our way out and not wanting to get more involved than that(and not talking violence, but seriously looking into 2020, getting our people into local, forcing a change in election practices). We need to get to that middle ground between these two groups if we want to have a hope of making it through this.
Ding ding ding! They “got busy”, but not by campaigning or voting. They made other plans. That’s why they won.
We need a paramilitary wing that can be used as our attack dogs.
The only problem with that is that the FBI will be on us faster than Hunter on crack.
Exactly. The voters and non violent crowd come off as complacent and unwilling to truly do what it takes to save the union.
Do they think we want violence? I sure don't. But legal and peaceful methods seem to lead to us being led in circles while the noose tightens. Nothing we do legally ever provides tangible results.
Straw man.
No one serious on the right is presenting voting as a universal solution.
Hey that’s just what I’m seeing on here, people either too hopeful to do anything or too depressed to try. If you think you’re already in the middle great we need ya.
No we need to just go back to being high energy and ban all these fake Trump supporters, these are not real Trump supporters, these are shills.
We are not afraid to fight. We just understand that normal legal means of fighting are no longer possible.
You confuse fighting with the definition of insanity
I mean, my state voted for Trump and didn't use Dominion.
They cheated, they rigged it, but giving up is stupid. They cheat in California, they cheat in New York, but the election only came down to 5-6 cities with rampant fraud.
And either way, your state laws matter way more than federal, you also have way more control over what your city or state do. Democrats dig in deep, nonstop, and that's why we are where we are.
What percentage of The Mafia is comprised of Good Guys?
START A NEW PARTY OR DIE OF HARD COMMUNISM.
NEVER. GOING. BACK.
came here to say the same thing.
democrats didn't get busy, all they did was push impeachment, which was sloppy and lazy. they stoked anger and violence through antifa and blm, fear through covid and then waited until election day to cheat! they did as little work as possible knowing they were going to cheat anyway...
It helps to have the entire DOJ, FBI, and Media to run cover for you.
And the Dems knew he didn't cheat. We know they did.
Came here to say this.
People who make calls not to vote are low energy but the reason libs didn’t give up is because they all knew Trump didn’t cheat.
And because democrats are fucking stupid so cause, effect, and consequences mean nothing.
because the democrats KNEW trump's side didn't cheat
there's a difference between NARRATIVE and REALITY, mitchell... try learning it
Lots of Democrat voters seemed convinced that Trump actually shook hands with Putin and changed the election somehow. Double think is a very real thing amongst liberals.
Yes they fucking were I talked to these people you idiot.
Those are the same people who say “BLM” but live in white, gated communities.
They lie to you. Sure...they believed it was “stolen” in 2016. Riighhttt......
It’s taqiya, but with liberals instead of Muslims.
So suburban white liberals don't exist, okay then. You're deluded.
Democrats never thought that their own party was in bed with Trump. They never believed that their own representatives were willingly giving up their own power. A big part of the dooming here is based on that fact. There is no real organization to represent us - just a few people who have no real power. We're stuck with fucking Mitch in charge. Pelosi and Schumer would never bend over the way Republican "leadership" does.
I mean you kind of admitted that you think they could have been bullshitting. You said “seemed”.
That's not what I said, I live in a deep blue area and have spoken to people that believe to this day that Putin steals elections, they believe this unironically.
The funniest part is even after Trump won he was demanding audits. Everyone shutdown and would not comply. Jill Stein did get one going but when Trump started picking up votes they dropped it. Republicans had all the power to lean hard on audits, cleaning voter rolls. They did jack squat. Judical Watch did win one CA case to clean the books but CA never complied. Nobody has said shit. GOP by and large are one in the same as the DNC.
If the GOP was the same as the DNC, the GOP would have a spine, as you clearly demonstrated they do not.
They do.....haven't you noticed the gop standing up against conservatives at every opportunity?
I noticed them boldly flipping off the American people
They do not have enough of a spine.
You fight fire with fire.
Now we are “fixing” election laws. Now we can’t play the way THEY did...we should have left everything the same and done a better job.
Bill Mitchell, the gun grabber, calling others pathetic? Eat shit, asshole!
"our side"
The GOP is the reason why people don't want to vote. Has little to do with cheating.
Hey fucktard they won by rigging the election and the republican party endorsed the steal. Let that FUCKING SINK IN!!!!
What a cretin.
The Dems didn't "get busy".
Biden had some of the most pathetically small rallies in history. He "declared lids" during the campaign.
He picked a VP running mate who didn't get a single delegate on her own.
He said "we have the largest voter fraud organization in history" and told one of his supporters "I don't need you to get elected."
THEY GOT BUSY CHEATING.
WE NEED TO STOP THAT, AND MAKE THE RINOS PAY PERSONALLY IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE LIVES FOR ENABLING IT.
Cut them off from all jobs and bankrupt them with petty charges ("the process is the punishment.").
Because they are the ones who allow Dems to do that to us; in return for a promise that they will be eaten last.
The DNC got busy getting ready to steal the 2020 Election. They've been planning all this shit since 2017.
The 2018 midterms was a trial run, with them stealing multiple seats and getting away with it, so 2020 was predictable. The only surprise in 2020 was how obvious the fraud was and the courts allowing it to stand and refusing to even hear the cases. I guess the absolute failure of the GOP to put up any fight was a surprise to some as well.
The GOP enabled it.
The whole system needs to be destroyed.
They got busy . . . cheating. You fucking morons.
Yep.
Fuck bill Mitchell. Trump didn't cheat and the left blatantly did. I don't want to work with cheaters or give them a pass. I want them dead.
Democrats got busy ACTUALLY CHEATING. Republicans didn't both to challenge it at all. No point in voting if the right will allow the left to cheat at will.
Cry more shill.
Quit being a faggot. The country is pretty much done. The Republican party is not going to fight for you at all. They don't work for you. They work for the democrats. Their job is just to move you along down the chain 2 single party control of everything. They never stand up for themselves at all
Keep dooming. You're going to look stupid next year.
Personally I think you're delusional but I'd love to be proven wrong. Time will tell...
isn't that what you're bitching about? what kind of fool would bitch about what they perceive as "crying" only to tell people to do it more... the kind of fool that thinks he can beat the left by voting.
Charlie Brown should get busy and just try harder to kick that damn football! Piss off Bill.
We watched as the election was stolen. We watched as the GOP ran and did nothing to fight for voter integrity. We watched the courts refuse to take on voter fraud cases. I GET HIS POINT but until we have the right people fighting the big fight with voter rolls, voter I.D., and those Dominion machines, please share with us how the average American can make a difference.
So...more "vote harder" from our side then? Yeah, that'll fix everything.
Yeah vote for republicans that will turn around and bend over for the nearest Democrat to take the cock long and hard
Difference is we didn’t cheat and they did. On camera. And got away with it. And no one tried stopping them. Go ahead and vote again... no point.
Yeah, it would look unseemly to disagree with CNN and The New York Times about something. Can't fucking stand up at all for the people that put you in office.
What?
They got mad, they got busy, and they cheated
And they got the courts and the fake opposition GOP to drag their asses across the finish line and hand them the crown.
And for absolutely no reason at all, Germany once elected............
You do realize that in your logic we’re the Nazis, right?
I wish some people would use their fucking brains.
I'm using mine. Are you sure you're using yours?
Push people to extremes and we get extremes.
It's ok, sweetie. I can spell it out for you.
Leftist shill. Reported
Edit: lmao So we're seriously accepting people that use effeminate language as genuine Trump supporters now okay then.
Nazis are better than Communists.
Wrong. They cheated
Yeah but Trump didn’t cheat. They blatantly did. And nobody cares but us. We should still vote and do more work to stop cheating. But that’s the difference.
Or we could just cheat too since it's clown world 100% now
The difference is that the same courts and "justice system" that slept through the Democrat steal and facilitated the illegitimate government installation will drop the fucking hammer on the slightest impropriety when we do it. I mean, look what they did to Dinesh D'Sousa and what they are doing right now to the capitol protesters.
Courts are made out of people. People are made out of meat. Meat can be removed.
Exactly. They fake 1,000 ballots...we fake 2,000. I want to see a situation where EVERY precinct has more votes than registered voters. If the Left has no problem with doxxing people on our side with paid thugs, we have to stop taking the high road and saying, "We don't resort to those tactics." Within minutes of Josh Hawley claiming he would challenge certification he had paid thugs outside of his home. Is anyone expecting us to believe that all those people simply knew Hawley's home address offhand and organized organically to gather outside of his home? Please.
It's a really big cult and they're networked, organized and fanatical.
Actually, all they do is spend their money to pay people to act like a violent mob. The people controlling the piles of money on our side choose to spend the money on themselves. Every phone call I've gotten from GOP/Conservatives looking for donations for the last year have been met with a "go fuck yourselves."
Fuck these faggots. There not trying to do anything to stop anything the democrats are doing. You've got republicans supporting chemical castration of children and plugging in critical race theory garbage into classrooms that has white kids apologising to black kids for shit people did a 150 years ago.
The Republican party is fucking pointless.
Democrats cheated. That's how "they got busy"
But I agree. It's stupid to say "I'll never vote Republican again". Then that means the Democrat psyop worked. The psyop to demoralize you and crush the Republican party completely.
The solution isn't to abstain from voting republican. The solution is a MAGA takeover of the GOP from the local level to the federal.
I won't take on that guilt. These are ridiculous statements with no back-up. He just thinks he's being "smart."
Baloney! We have no idea how many Democrats actually turned out to vote. The whole election was fake. All elections are fake. Go away with your "I believe in Democracy" bullshit.
Yeah they got busy putting a corruption and cheat model in place for 2020..
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Hell yeah! Thank you!! We've needed the downvote arrow option since this was TD, considering the amount of retarded BS (like this post) gets posted.
Downvoting is for cucks and karens.
LOL... have a downvote faggot
Have a deport, doomer.
Have one right back retard.
My entire post history is red pill and pro Trump, don't waste your time
it's not automatic fool... you just said "have me telling on you, doomer"... lol. Money says it goes nowhere.
Yes, they should get downvoted. /"phrasing">
I didn't say "I CAN'T" .
I asked how. What do you mean "also username does not check out" ?
Your username is unironically hilarious.
It's not unironic because he is actually a snowflake
What a dummy. Does he not realize that Democrats ACTUALLY cheating kills his arguement?
The freak you talking about, we know for a fact their voter turnout was at all time lows, heck we picked up probably 5 million of them to our side. Don’t get me wrong there was a very vocal minority that lost its mind but I’d be shocked if Biden actually limped over 60 million real votes.
Enter Ruby Freeman
Why the fuck should I vote? The best thing we can all do is just stop paying taxes. Let the machine break down, then replace it.
A lot of people I know didn’t give up on winning - they gave up on *convincing leftist with reason as part of the path to winning.
We WILL WIN.
After we CLIMB OVER SOME COMMIES LIKE A FUCKING TREADMILL
Never shill Mitchell.
FFS... ASSHOLES, do you not have memories? Fuck this clown.
So what, exactly, is the solution here?
We vote, they rig the election. We challenge it in court, they refuse to hear it. We show up and protest, get arrested and declared insurrectionists.
Become a precinct committeeman? Ok great, that works on the local level, they still control the federal level.
Run for Congress? Ok, then you can be like MTG and Boebert and be labeled super fringe and have them constantly attack you and keep you from getting good committee spots. And that is IF you run and they don’t either steal the election from you, make up some bullshit and get you removed, or make up bullshit that their friends in the media will push and make people not vote for you.
You can cite Jim Jordan or Ron Paul or Josh Hawley all you want. That’s three guys, with three votes. Or shit, even Nunez. Look at what he’s uncovered and talked about, and the deafening silence it’s been met with.
Let’s say you actually make it to Congress. Ok, now contend with the Lindsey Grahams and Bitch McConnells who are equally as bad as any on the left.
We had control of all three branches and absolutely not one thing was done to help Trump. We are constantly fucked by our own side. This is what some don’t get. I’m not a doomer. I think we can save the republic. The unfortunate thing is that no one knows how, and suggesting certain methods is verboten.
If we don’t identify and resolve the root cause, nothing will change. And the root cause is crooked politicians. Personally, I think paying them is the first mistake. Allowing corporations to act as persons is also part of the problem, in the political realm.
Until we set things back to OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE, we are in for a rough go.
I don't think anyone's arguing that we're not in for "a rough go". Many of us are arguing that it is REQUIRED!
Honestly, how do most of you think us conservatives felt when Obama was elected...twice?
It's not over. Honestly I was shocked when Trump won the first time. Pleasantly shocked, but still shocked.
The local grassroots movements are the answer. Only the grassroots can upend the feds. Nullification, convention of states, there are multiple routes.
I wonder if he realizes that Biden probably had the lowest number of living, legitimate voters turn out for him. So in effect, they didn’t show up. If it wasn’t for all the vote switching and fake ballots, Biden wouldn’t have won. Actual voter turnout will never matter again as long as these systems are still in place.
Except Trump didn’t cheat and couldn’t have even if he wanted to, and the Uniparty did cheat and can do so indefinitely because their own courts are never going to make them stop.
There are solutions. None of them involve trying to beat the Uniparty within the rules (rules which only apply when it suits them) of their own rigged system.
But trump didn't cheat.
Dems did cheat with the help of our entire system.
There is a BIG difference.
It is less "they cheated and I will never vote again" and more "they cheated and the people we elected to represent us are OK with it" is what got a lot of people discouraged. That is the biggest difference, if the Republicans fought like hell for Trump and against the fraud then more people would have continued fighting. It is going to take time for most people to trust the system again.
I don't think Democrats truly thought Trump cheated. They were just rationalizing how Hillary could lose when they themselves cheated but not hard enough in the blue cities like detroit, philly.
Hillary was so bad she made Bernie look like a good candidate.
This is wrong comparing apples to oranges. We won't cheat while they cheat regularly in every way possible. The two attitudes are not comparable.
That’s cause none of them really believed he cheated and instead decided to implement their own cheating methods
Apples and hand grenades.
Fuck this guy. The Democrats are cheating pieces of shit. Conservatives want fair elections, not to steal them better. The Democrats have no standards, utterly retarded talking points, and rule by fear. The Democrats want to bastardize the constitution and enslave the population while making it look legitimate. Absolutely evil.
Fuck this guy for comparing the two sets of people.
Trump won despite the Dems cheating in 2016. That's the big difference.
The difference is they actually cheated in a way that is reproducible.
Bill isn’t understanding a few things:
Democrats cheated bigly. President Trump got record number of votes by a lot and still “lost”.
Why in the absolute fuck do any republicans DESERVE our votes when they let it happen and some were in on the steal?
fuckups that I pinched my nose and voted for “because they aren’t democrats” aren’t getting my vote again. Besides a few select people who are actually fighting, why in the world would I waste my time giving out of touch republicans a vote? I showed up because president Trump asked me to and they stabbed him and by proxy, us, in the back. Fuck them all
When Dems "get mad and busy" they're bailed out by celebrities, heralded as heroes by the media, and get their own flavor of ice cream. When Conservatives do it, they're called "terrorists" and put in jail.
Maybe the gop gave up, but we the people sure as fuck didn’t
The more perfervid the rhetoric on both sides becomes, the harder it is not to succumb to rage and to despair---if you have to unplug from the Noise to stay focused on the end goal occasionally, do so. Giving up is NOT an option---this is a global war and no one is exempt anywhere...
They live politics like it's their religion. It's time we do the same.
A conundrum here is that part of the DNC plan simply involved flooding the government at every level with frauds, simpletons, and lazy pieces of shit.
We try to avoid those people at all costs, and they are the majority. Some of their votes can be converted to support the forces of good, but it's temporary. These people are slaves to short term pleasure.
MAGA is a journey, and a difficult one at that. Similar to Christianity, which is why there are so many charlatans there as well. Giving up obviously is wrong, and probably a crime against humanity given what we're up against. We're just going to need a completely different strategy.
Given we're not going to face a physical invasion to get tleven the most normiest of normies motivated, I don't know what large-scale strategy that would be.
Not a good parallel. Democrats knew Trump didn't actually cheat. They were just salty. On the other hand, anyone who watched the 2020 election, even if they wanted Biden, knew exactly what happened. I'm not talking about the videos, affidavits, statistics, whistleblowers, lawsuits etc. If you watched it that night, you knew exactly what happened. They didn't even try to hide it. They just pretended it never happened and silence anyone who spoke out.
The problem with this statement is that the left got busy cheating because they can't win a fair election.
Us on the right want fair elections and don't want to cheat to win, so how do we overcome this when the very entities that are supposed to guard our elections are part of the problem?