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posted ago by FredRedd ago by FredRedd +14 / -0

Fren’s, a friend asked me why I am declining the vaccine at this time. I have my reasons accumulated from reading arguments against it from here and there, accumulated over the past few weeks, but I feel I have a chance to share some red-pill wisdom here or at least, give him something to consider. Can you point me to a resource that has a good list compiled of the best arguments against the vaccine?

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GenericInsult 9 points ago +9 / -0

Please help me with “why not to get the vaccine” list of reasons and resources.

  1. Because I fucking don't want it.

  2. See 1.

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MrGone 4 points ago +4 / -0

☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝

I knew if I read all the posts I'd find the most logical answer.

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FredRedd [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, there is a lot to be said for the direct approach.

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loooooof 7 points ago +7 / -0

NOT FDA approved.

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Bel-6863 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think I got this off this site?

Hmmmmm – “THINK” about these statements!! “If I get vaccinated”:

Can I stop wearing the mask? Government: NO

Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars, etc and everyone work normally? Government: No

Will I be resistant to Covid? Government: Maybe, but we don’t know exactly, it probably won’t stop you getting it

At least I won’t be contagious to others anymore? Government: No, it doesn’t stop transmission.

If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? Government: No

If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? Government: No

If I vaccinated myself and my grandparents, can we hug each other? Government: No

Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums operate as per normal thanks to vaccine? Government: No

What is the benefit of the vaccine? Government: Hoping the virus won’t kill you.

Are you sure it won’t kill me? Government: No

If statistically the virus won’t kill me anyway (99.7% survival rate)…why would I get vaccinated? Government: To protect others

So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with? Government: No

Can you guarantee that I won’t experience adverse effects from taking the vaccine or die from the vaccine itself? Government: No

Since you’re encouraging everybody to get vaccinated then what people experience severe adverse reactions, long term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine will they or their families be compensated? Government: No – the government and vaccine manufactures have 100% zero liability in experimental stages.

How long does the vaccine last? Government: We aren’t sure. So to summarize, the Covid19 vaccine…Does not give immunity. Does not eliminate the virus. Does not prevent death. Does not guarantee you won’t get it. Does not stop you passing it on. Does not eliminate the need for travel bans. Does not eliminate the need for business closures. Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns. Does not eliminate the need for masking. Feel free to copy, paste and share.

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AgaM1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because they’ve yet to isolate the actual virus so how the hell can you develop a vaccine.

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Ilikecheese 4 points ago +4 / -0

There has never been an MRNA vaccine before. There was no animal testing on this. The people who have gotten it are just the human trials for this.

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Goldstein2024 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't play their game. Ask them why they are getting the vaccine. If they actually give you a reason without short circuiting, it will probably already be debunked by the government itself in bel-6863's post and then mock them for being a stupid guinea pig.

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FredRedd [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

This would have made for an interesting conversation, but he already got his "first dose" - he's actually someone who would be a legitimate "at-risk" person (as far as legitimacy goes with this charade, anyway)

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graucho 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because no vaccine on the market has been tested against an inert placebo - the way every other drug has to be.

Although roughly 400 adverse events is a sobering number, again, it is probably an underestimate. This is because most clinical trials follow participants for an absurdly short period of time—three days here, seven days there—and do not capture problems that arise beyond that brief window, even though clinicians recognize (and the scientific literature confirms) that vaccine reactions are not always immediate or acute. Moreover, even for those few days of monitoring, the inserts are often short on details, citing only a smattering of adverse events collected from a predetermined list of “solicited” reactions and only sometimes accepting “unsolicited” feedback. In addition, the fact that vaccine clinical trials typically compare vaccine against vaccine rather than vaccine against inert placebo makes it easy to divert attention from specific adverse reactions by simply citing “similar rates” of adverse reactions in both groups.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/read-the-fine-print-part-two-nearly-400-adverse-reactions-listed-in-vaccine-package-inserts/

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Cyberpunkd 3 points ago +3 / -0

I say because the long-term effects are unknown, and also, my age group has over a 99.9% survival rate, so it's just not needed.

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GotMyFishingPole 2 points ago +2 / -0

#1 Common Sense

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most up to date PDF Compilation of vaccine articles. March 13 2021

https://files.catbox.moe/pttdko.pdf

https://pastelink.net/vaccine-deaths

https://vaccineimpact.com/

Social media posts (less scientific, more convincing to normies)

https://files.catbox.moe/vkazdp.pdf

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hulda0100 2 points ago +2 / -0

The "vaccines" which are being administered are NOT APPROVED new products. They are being used under an "Emergency declaration", and have NOT been subject to the human trials normally REQUIRED by FDA. They are "EXPERIMENTAL". And you are the Guinea Pig.

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onesummerdream 1 point ago +1 / -0

The coovid has a 98.6% recovery rate (70? and under), better % than the vaccine effectiveness.

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Bel-6863 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually 98.6% is misleading. Thats the % of all age.

CDC survival rate cv19

By Age.

0-19--99.997%

20-49--99.98%

50-69--99.5%

70+ 94.6%

Im guessing at over 70, one has a 5% of death everyday, regardless.

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Connectthedots 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s not about arguments against the vaccine. Your body already has an immune system that will fight all viruses. Vitamin D levels over 50 will not allow your body to go into the cytocynaise storm. Just because you come in contact with Co vars 2 doesn’t mean you will develop covid.

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Banick088 1 point ago +1 / -0

My wife is a nutritionist, this seems to be the best bet to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich

It is clear that the amount of chemicals entering our bodies is destroying the human race. The less chemicals the better.

This includes vaccines for which I am 99.8% certain to live. Basically 99.99999% because I live in a healthy way.

Less chemicals, the better

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FredRedd [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks everyone for the full range of answers, from the snark and fun to the "answer his question with better questions", to the "here are some collected links". Pedes and Patriots keep the world from falling into the void!