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realPierreDelecto 3 points ago +3 / -0

even red state have become dependent on federal money. we need their federally insured banks as well and even the federal energy grid (not Texas). I dont see way out through secession unless we could be independent.

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duckduck 3 points ago +3 / -0

But don't forget, we'd be massively cutting off their power grid (not to mention their federal revenue), we could still arrange mutually beneficial trade with the communists.