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posted ago by msimmons87 ago by msimmons87 +66 / -0

The rigging will continue. The Rinos will dominate. Any further elections are invalid. Not only that but the system currently in place will not be fixed unless we create a new one. Just does not make any sense to me.

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Liberty_Prime 4 points ago +5 / -1

Because America is not a parliamentary system, and there are fewer Never Trumpers than there are pro Trumpers.

THEY need to start a new party, not us. We have the numbers and a hostile takeover keeps the infrastructure intact.

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msimmons87 [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

But the problem stems from the current infrastructure in place. The is where I do not understand any sentiment in trying to "takeover" the party.

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Liberty_Prime 3 points ago +4 / -1

By infrastructure I mean the brand. Trump is well aware of the power of a name.

Regardless of how pretty you make your third party look, there's a chunk of people who just vote Republican because they always have or their daddy did or whatever.

You can argue that they shouldn't. But they'll still do it.

Brand loyalty.

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msimmons87 [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Those same type of people are the reason that our system is completely fucked. We don't need those people. Even if we don't "win" we can still make an impact. From the ground up, city/county/state, we'd make much more of an impact on those communities as opposed to anyone from washington dc.

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Liberty_Prime 3 points ago +4 / -1

Look. Go!

Go third party.

Have a fun time launching it without Trump.

We'll be here when your nominee strips naked like the Libertarians.

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msimmons87 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Exactly how I see it. Why is it that we as people rely so much on a single person to do all of the heavy lifting. Trump says that he isn't starting a new party, but if he isn't even decided upon running again, who the fuck cares what he thinks? It's time for us to begin to actually organize (some are but not on a massive scale) and create a new branding/party to move forward. Not giving them our money is not enough. They will find other means (corporate donors) to continue their rule over us and it will only stay that way if we do not create our own infrastructure.

Now, I know this would take time, effort, money, etc. but we have to start somewhere. If we just keep relying on the same system that just keeps fucking us, I guarantee you that nothing fruitful will ever come about. It's like expecting a plump ripe apple to grow on a rotting/dying tree.

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NRAPepe 0 points ago +3 / -3

Why is it that we as people rely so much on a single person to do all of the heavy lifting.

We didn't.

We were hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Harry Potter Banking Goblin infiltration of our government and all of our critical institutions.

President Trump has the potential to MAGA without the need for civil war. He called us to surround the Capitol and we knew it was a trap, but we did it anyway because we believed Trump has a plan... and the plan turned out to be surrendering to the communists when we needed him the most.

It was a gamble worth taking, but none of us could have expected such a devastating outcome.

I started prepping for civil war in 2015 when I believed Hillary would provably steal the election and install herself as a dictator. I've learned much since then and am in contact with prepping groups in several other states and sadly, Trump's continued ambiguous political fan-dance has crippled even the prepping networks ability to prepare for anything.

We desperately need Trump to step aside or lead the revolution because all he is doing now is killing our ability or coordinate.

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The_General_Patton 2 points ago +2 / -0

Invade the existing parties... and start a new party. Think Machiavelli. Think The 48 Laws of Power. Think The Art of War.

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duckduck 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think a new party should be started, they can caucus with the Republicans. But the reason why there is not a movement toward one is simply because Trump said no the idea. If he had said yes, we'd all be in a new party now.

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

People like to lose

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GOLDNSQUID 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ballot access. You cant just go i am a new party and expect to be on the ballot for the election. The 2 political parties have taken steps to keep it this way to stop other parties from growing. Look at the Libertarian party for a good reason not to start a new party. Its crazy the amount of time and effort they have to spend to get where they are. We need to take over the Republican Party. We also need the Republican party to stick together the way the Demcrap party does. Its crazy for all the infighting that goes on when it comes time to vote for whatever ridiculous thing that someone comes up with they all vote together. Meanwhile the Republicans are all over the place and backstab and scheme and dont follow the will of the peoplethat they are supposed to represent. We have a Representative Democracy which means we as a group of people select someone to present our wishes in government. If they dont we get rid of them. We dont run away and start over we change our representative.. Its like this stupid term limit thing that people seem to like. we should be able to use whomever we want to represent us. All term limits do is allow this person to do what is in their best interest since they no longer have to worry about being re-elected.

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WeAreGonnaWin 1 point ago +1 / -0

2016-2020 the people had a chance. A glitch named Trump.

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muddobber 1 point ago +1 / -0

Americans, conservatives and independents need to take over the republican party. Kick out all the RINOS.

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TheTuckerDiaries 1 point ago +1 / -0

We do it’s called The Republican Party and we need to focus on purging RINOS in it by any, means, necessary.

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BasicKekinomics -13 points ago +2 / -15

Because we don't have time to fix the election system and start a new party.

The new party will cost tons of money that we do not have nor do we have a way to raise it.

The new party has to be set up in every state independently.

You have to get the word out to every Trump supporter and convince them to support your new party.

You have to convince them that it stands a chance and is not a waste of time.

It is much easier to primary out the idiots in the Republican party and promote MAGA candidates within it.

Don't donate to the RNC. Donate directly to your preferred candidate if possible.

We have to rebuild the party from the ground up.

The precinct project is a great example of that.

Trump was right to not sponsor a new party.

We can't spread ourselves too thin right now.