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posted ago by TrumpIncitedErection ago by TrumpIncitedErection +3089 / -1

I had thought about it a lot and decided that it was probably worth the risk, based on conversations with medical researchers who really understand how it works.

Then yesterday we had a workplace webinar where the president said that all staff are required to get the vaccine. Someone said how can you possibly require a vaccine that isn't even approved, but is only under emergency use authorization. The general counsel piped up and said that we think we are within our legal rights to require you to get it.

Someone else pointed out that in order to get this experimental vaccine we have to sign away our liability rights, so if the vaccine injures or kills us we have no recourse. And so isn't the company then liable for forcing you to take that risk? The webinar went silent for about 40 seconds and then the general counsel said that she would "circle back" on that question. So now they are worried...

Going to wait this one out for a bit.

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TrumpIncitedErection [S] 30 points ago +34 / -4

I guess if I were thinking more rationally this should make me less worried about getting the vaccine because I consume my employer for forcing me to take the unmitigated risk

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peterstrzoked 25 points ago +25 / -0

If you assume that there aren’t massive numbers of negative reactions that are being covered up (wouldn’t surprise me, but I know lots of people who got the vax who are fine so far) the risk in taking the vaccine is pretty low.

I did the math the other day in another thread and it was like 1800 deaths associated with 167 million vaccine doses.

To compare to the flu vaccine in 2018-2019, there were ~350 deaths out of 160 million flu vaccines.

With that being said, there is still no reason to get it:

  • you can still get covid
  • you can still transmit covid to others
  • you still have to mask
  • you still have to social distance
  • there are exactly zero people who have taken it five years ago for us to be sure there are no long term effects

In addition to that, there are likely fertility issues - possibly covid related (that happen too if you get the vax) so unless you are in a high risk category for covid and are done having kids, there is zero reason to choose to take this vaccine at this point in time IMO

Spez: to add one final note - and maybe my entire point that I skipped: we should be fighting and resisting this vaccine more out of principle than anything. If we let them force us to take something just because it “probably won’t hurt us” then it makes it harder to fight the next one that will sterilize entire swaths of the population, etc

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anon1011101 40 points ago +40 / -0

The carrot that my employer is dangling in front of people's faces is that if you show proof of vax they'll graciously allow you to travel out of state without taking 2 weeks unpaid quarantine when you return. Fucking scum.
I've been traveling the whole time and I just don't inform anyone at work what I'm doing. Saw my folks for Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc. It's not my employer's fucking business where I travel and I don't recall ever reading anything about it in the employment contract I signed.

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belugas 6 points ago +6 / -0

Just fake it