TL;DR - Stop trying to prove to communists that they are wrong. Facts, logic, and reason only work on the rational. Our goals are not the same as theirs. They don't care if their new laws work, they only care if they move us towards the destruction of our nation. If the new law doesn't work, it actually is better at destroying us. Mock them! (What do we do instead? See the call to action at the bottom)
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about the illogical nature of the gun proposals that Biden is pushing. Then, this realization hit me like a ton of bricks...
We are not accurately judging our enemy and the situation, and that lack of understanding is why we fail. We assume that each side is arguing from a position of good faith in an effort to find the best solution to a complicated problem.
What we fail to grasp is that the enemy (and that's exactly how we should be viewing the radicals and their useful idiots) is not trying to reason with you or to find an option that solves the problem. They are only interested in promoting their final agenda, the utter destruction of the United States and capitalism. They are socialist and communist radicals and the moves they are making are only aimed at that achievement. They cannot hear or even comprehend an argument from virtue, logic, or common ground. It is entirely alien to them. Any move towards the middle or to find common ground that you make will only give them the opportunity to once again move the goal posts, alter the terms, and drag you into another position of capitulation. They intentionally use our own virtue and sincerity against us as skillfully as an aikido master uses the weight and movement of his opponent.
*This is our #1 mistake.
Truth doesn't matter to them. Values do not matter to them. Equality does not matter to them. Logic does not matter to them. Hypocrisy does not matter to them.
And finally...
YOU do not matter to them.*
This is exactly why we can reason with them until we are blue in the face and all that will accomplish is to waste your time. No amount of logic, statistics, evidence, or begging for consideration of your opinions will be of any use. It applies to COVID, transgender kids, taxes, abortion, voting, guns, and every other topic.
Their only reason for even engaging is because they understand that they cannot come out and admit what their ultimate goal actually is. They know that if they move too quickly that the majority of the currently sleeping masses will wake up and fight back. So, they move methodically, slowly taking us to our grave.
For example: guns
It's death by a 1,000 regulations. The end goal is outright confiscation, via years of "common sense" control. And, as we slowly become criminalized our will to resist is diluted until it is non-existent.
*Person A doesn't comply with minor regulation A, they are now a federal felon and the government has a reason to outright confiscate all of his guns and throw Person A in prison.
Person B sees what happened to A and decides that regulation A isn't enough of an infringement to warrant resistance and so they voluntarily comply. But Person B lies to himself that he will always be ready to fight if the government crosses the new red line by taking these regulations too far.*
But the radicals in power know this and know not to push so far so fast. As long as they can keep shifting that red line closer to the goal without triggering a resistance, they don't care how long the process takes.
Rinse and repeat until the "common sense" thing to do is to repeal the Second Amendment entirely.
We are almost already there. The Supreme Court nearly abolished the Second Amendment just a few years ago in the Heller v. D.C. case. It was a 5 - 4 decision. One judge was the difference between the right to bear arms and confiscation. Joe Biden just said that "no Amendment is absolute." The radical shift and damage that has been done in only three months is dizzying.
All of this is intentional. People are scared, confused, depressed, and scattered, which allows the radical left their best opportunity to push through radical changes as fast as they can sign the paper, and cement in place a "new normal" before anyone gets the chance to challenge it.
Chaos and confusion are critical tools in war. We need to wake the hell up and understand that we are at war and we must start acting like it. If we don't take action now, there won't be a later.
We have all made the fatal mistake of assuming that the opposition is arguing from a position of good faith. We are assuming that the conversation is revolving around a common goal with only differences of opinion on how to reach that goal.
Do not forget that this is absolutely untrue.
From time to time the mask has slipped and their stated goal is allowed into view. The endgame for them is the destruction of western society.
It is time to stop arguing with these enemies about the trivial details of their laws, pointing out how they are illogical or won't work to keep people safe. It is laughable to even imagine that this is the approach we would have taken when trying to stop the rise of the Nazi Party. As we understood then, the only correct response is one of strength and a refusal to bend from what we know is righteous.
So, what do we do now?
First, stop engaging them in a debate. It will not work to change their mind and it will only serve their purpose. Mockery of evil is the best approach.
If, we do decide to speak out against them, our only conversation should be about core principles and truth. State only your strong conviction to moral correctness and lay a philosophical foundation for your support or disgust of the topic.
Do not talk about the statistical analysis of the race relations, murder rates, infection fatality, violations of Constitutional rights, etc. Instead, speak only in terms of what is right and what is wrong. Draw a clear line between good and evil and never allow yourself the chance to bend.
Secondly, understand that engaging in this conversation is nonetheless pointless. You will not change their mind or convince them of the error of their ways. But...
You might, and THIS is the real goal, empower the third-party that is listening in, to take action and join you in denunciation of the enemy. You may help the scales to shed from the eyes of the nation and see the Marxists as the evil army that they are.
When you show bravery and courage in the face a populist evil, you empower and embolden others to take a stand. Maybe you are only the first one dancing, maybe you are the second, and maybe you'll be the final catalyst that makes the nation break into a thunderous rhythm. Who know?
Some of you may recognize these as some of Dan Bonginos rules.
So, remember this:
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our goals do not align with the goals of the enemy
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do not engage into their trap
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their goals are illogical, logic will not sway them
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boldly stand firm on moral ground
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get involved, IT'S TIME TO DANCE!
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be willing to risk losses now, or you will be forced into losses later
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we are at war, we WILL lose friends, jobs, and family, do it on your terms
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do not give up hope, the enemy is revealing themselves, we have many unforseen allies that can be swayed by your example
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most importantly... HAVE FUN! Mockery is our best weapon, wield it artfully
One issue I have found with most Christians is the fact that they don't even want to fight back. They have this death cult mentality where they are embracing the end times and think that this is it. Thry welcome the left exterminating them and don't intend to do anything to stop them because they somehow think gods will personally intervene...
Unfortunately I don't see that happening. All I see is the left gearing up for mass extermination and the right doing very little to prevent it.
relevant article:
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/07/21/delingpole-rip-godfrey-elfwick-murdered-by-twitter-for-being-too-woke/
Thank you! I've been saying this for years!
On the bright side, they try and make moral arguments because they know we're moral and good people. Moral arguments fail against them because they're simply not.
The gun argument is proof of this.
Outstanding and dead-on. One way to see this is to watch what happens when we give the Left what they CLAIM to want. 20 years ago, it was gay marriage...so we gave them it, and did things end there (LOL).
Another one is how quickly they spin on a dime. Prior to 2014, Russia and the Soviet Union before that was a TOTAL DARLING of the Left. Then Putin decided it was best to protect Russian kids from gay recruiters...Russia now public enemy #1.
How about their 'rehabilitation' of Reagan and the Bush's? They DESPISED those three with the same level of hatred they directed at Trump (I was there, I saw it all), and now they say Reagan and at least Bush Sr. showed 'dignity and class' in the White House, while Trump was a horrible creature.
Get used to it...the positions of the Left only exist for a point in time, and then they forget what they used to support (or oppose) and flip over, when it makes sense to them.
Until the right realizes what you've realized, that we are already under the lefts boot, that we cannot win with logic and debate. The only way we survive this is if we start acting ungovernable, fight back, in any way possible. This could mean anything from refusing service from our businesses to people on the left to boycotts and protest. We can still win this nonviolently. But that time is almost over.
Our window for survival is almost over unless we act soon.
Yes, exactly!
There is a very short moment in time when the normies can be shown what the left is doing and we still have enough time to stop it. But that moment is very temporary and it will only be on extremely thin margins of victory.
I fear you may be more right than either of us would like to be. That time is now and the end is also... now.
When the left finally makes their move and attempts physical elimination of the right, if not enough have awoken, we're dead. It will be open civil war if we're lucky and probably death camps if we're unlucky.
Its the lefts MO to always exterminate their enemies when they have total dominance. They're batting 1.000 historically on that one.
I'm pretty certain we fall into the unlucky camp.
Read 1984 and The GULAG Archipelago over the last few months, and with the way this scamdemic and lockdowns have gone and just how easy it was to get the nation to destroy itself, it has become hauntingly clear to me that we are already at the door of the Lubyanka.
Hopefully a few states rise up and fight back. That really is the only remaining hope.... Sucks that civil war is literally one of the best option on the table...
Conservatives have been, even when they were the majority, extending their hand out to the left, only to end up getting bent over and fucked.
The reality is that conservatives need to stop standing on their morals all the time and actually fight back. Just look at the left, the second they gained a majority in our government they are pushing to expand the supreme court, eliminate the filibuster, purge the military, and etc. Where was all of this when the GOP had full control?
Conservatives think that beating someone in a debate or proving someone wrong with actual facts does anything, it doesn’t.
Conservatives could literally be lined up ready to get shot and would still say “Well, if you get to shoot me, it’s only fair I get to shoot you as well.”