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BrewSwillis 18 points ago +18 / -0

So basically, there's no way to catch "it", and we've just called every cold and flu case "Covid" for the past year? And have reported every death, where someone died with a cold or flu, a "Covid death"......... all in an effort to get rid of President Trump, and worldwide nationalism/populism?

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jimboonie 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m fairly on board with believing this. I just need the issues of “long haulers” explained and loss of smell and taste - things that are definitely not a traditional flu.

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BrewSwillis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I lose smell and taste quite often when I have a cold, flu, or upper respiratory infection.

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culpfiction 3 points ago +4 / -1

Based on the data I've seen, it appears all cause mortality is up last year, by a few hundred thousand. indicating something triggering more death.

I've seen data suggesting otherwise, but appears to be inaccurate. If anyone knows a counter argument or correct the record on mortality, I'm all ears.

That's the only piece of data that forces me to admit that this year's flu was in fact bad, even given that they most definitely cooked the official covid death numbers by conflating "from" with "with"

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tom_machine 6 points ago +6 / -0

Could the few hundred thousand be explained by people not seeking treatment for other ailments out of fear?? And don’t forget hospitals postponing “non essential treatments”... which were really things like cancer screenings and scheduled treatments / surgeries

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is some amount of this but the all causes is up enough to be unlikely it was only this.

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tom_machine 3 points ago +3 / -0

You’re right, I forgot to mention suicides / drug overdoses

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tom_machine 2 points ago +2 / -0

“COVID related”

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's increased by 200k the last two years but this year by 600k. So that's an uptick in the rate by a considerable amount.

There's probably multiple explanation but it does appear that there was an extra new factor causing deaths in excess of the expected increase.

Now, the demographics of who were affected is still important. Baby boomers are peaking so death rates will go up, maybe even accelerate, but that generation appears to be on the bubble of who is most vulnerable to such infections.

So in a way this is the baby boomers last gasp.