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Destroya12 15 points ago +17 / -2

I'm a gay dude. As a kid I was never molested like depicted here, but I was never accepted among the other boys. I never bonded with my father or brother either. It didn't help that my mom would shit talk both of them, and hated my cousin coming over to play. She would sign me up for random clubs and sports that I never liked and never wanted to do, and I had to do it just to please her.

As I grew up I started to feel bad that I was so alone and never got to experience normal male bonding. A sense of shame for a lost childhood and feeling generally unloved and unaccepted. I was sure that somehow, even though I'd never told anyone, that it was because others could sense that I was gay. Somehow there must have been some sort of mannerisms that gave it away despite my best efforts to hide them. So to help with the loneliness I pledged to a college fraternity, went out for the school wrestling team, trained Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and took up a career as a mechanic in the Army. All very male dominated areas. After all, it's well known that the company you keep tends to affect your beliefs, actions, and mannerisms. It's said that you are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with, so if I wanted to be less gay, surely these groups would help, right?

It didn't help at all. The problem is that there's no social incentive for you to be normal if you already feel gay. Once you start to feel those "dirty" desires as a teenager it's already too late. You've already gone down the slippery slope, and there isn't any way to save you, no way to stop that crushing feeling of loneliness, failure, and disappointment. No one, even if they accept gays, will ever look at you and think "Yeah he's gay but he's not like those limp wristed tankie faggots on Twitter and on college campuses, he's actually pretty cool." All they see is an inferior mechanic, a less bold soldier, a worse grappler, and a frat brother who gets less pussy than they do. A broken version of the other men around them, in other words.

Currently the problem is that most male dominated groups simply aren't open to gays, so gays tend to go where they are accepted. And that's in degenerate sex based clubs, gay advocacy groups, and with slutty narcissistic women who treat them like a fashion accessory to be paraded around and rewarded for faggy behavior like a dog that learned a new trick. But even if male groups did accept them just as much it wouldn't help. They're already gay, their needs haven't been met, and there's nothing that can be done. It might make the gays less faggy and degenerate to be accepted by men, but it won't stop homosexuality in general.

Maybe getting love, acceptance and friendship from a very young age would have helped prevent all this, but that's pure speculation. Stonetoss is a bit over simplistic to just say that molestation causes homosexuality, but he's not wrong generally to say that fucked up traumatic childhoods lead to it.