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pray4peace4 67 points ago +74 / -7

Even Russia, as bad as it is, knows how destructive that is for society. The way to stop the slide down the slippery slope is to never get on it.

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Bouldabassed 39 points ago +44 / -5

Is Russia even that bad? Sure that's the media and establishment narrative but how true is it? Been getting down the rabbit hole lately about how Russia used to be the old Ukraine, except 100 times more lucrative. You know how the Bidens made bank on corruption in Ukraine? Russia was that on steroids. But then Putin came along and brought the oligarchs to heel. The honey pot dried up and the deep state has hated his guts ever since.

Sure he's imperfect and corrupt himself, but overall Russia is much better off now than before he came along. The most prevalent negative narratives about him are that he rigs elections and poisons opposition candidates but both of those narratives are retarded on their face. The dude is insanely popular in Russia and has zero need to rig anything. And the poisonings have all the signs of a false flag event. Something he has zero to benefit from is always touted by the establishment as proof he's an evil tyrant.

Honestly its hard to see him as a one dimensional villain after digging deep into a lot of this stuff. Even the whole Crimea thing. The people there overwhelmingly wanted to be part of Russia. Same with the people of Eastern Ukraine right now who are mostly ethnically Russian.

Putin always gets named with people like Xi Jinping or Kim Jong Un but its harder and harder for me to see that as anything but the deep state being eternally butthurt that he took their toys away from them. Russia as a country is paradise compared to China and North Korea. And from this post it seems like he is willing to do things that are net positives from a cultural standpoint even if they are bad optics.

Sorry for the wall of text I just want people to think more about their position on this instead of parroting views programmed into them by the establishment. I think on a board like here especially you would have people reflexively trying to shit on Putin for no reason other than people are still trying to distance themselves after the Russia hoax.

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pray4peace4 0 points ago +1 / -1

"How is Russia even bad?" Dumber words have never been spoken. And I see there's several of you Russian shills here. How much does Putin pay you to come on TD & stir things up?

Well let's see... Putin murders everyone who mounts a successful election campaign against him. He steals so much cash from his citizens, he's one of the richest men in the world. His goons are sent out to terrorize every single person who criticizes him, & every journalist inside Russia that runs a negative story about him ends up dead in the street. You seriously don't know this? Are you really that ignorant? That is seriously embarrassing dude. You spent far too many hours studying diversity in school & not real facts.