I disagree. Homosexuality on its own is a completely neutral thing. It does not cause anything other than attraction towards the same sex. You can believe in anything that straight people do, by definition. I wouldn't be posting on .win if it wasn't the case (I first started posting on the T_D domreddit some months before the quarantine).

Would you be willing to live your life in unhappiness married to a guy (if you're a guy), and if not, how can you demand it from others? What happened to the pursuit of liberty and happiness? And you didn't even think of the life of a child who would grow up under unhappy parents with an incompatible orientation. That would damage his upbringing for sure. Gays shouldn't be forced into straight families, it's bad for both the person and the child. Let them live with their chosen spouses like every other adult. I don't support gay adoption though. I'm not good with kids, I know that I would be a horrible parent and kids need both parents anyways. I do think that straight families should have lots of kids, so that our countries would survive.

This kind of gatekeeping you are doing is one of the big problems with this site, and makes my point too.

Also, I come from a 1000+ years old country. The way I see it, Americans can never truly be nationalists, only patriots. I have read our codices from the 1200s. I have toured ruins of our castles where our ancestors beat back the Turks. Your country can never know what nationalism is if your Founders wore triangular hats and used rifles instead of helmets and recurve bows. American patriotism is a commercialized, Coke-light version of a medieval-flavored European trad-nationalism.

And this is the second problem America has, and the one that you mentioned too. It was never the gays - it was the lack of medieval history and struggles. This is the reason behind the lack of unifying principles. Our Hungary has experienced a lot of hardships and oppression - we will hopefully survive the current ones too. The USA? I am not so sure. The USA has always been victorious since birth, and it looks like Joe Briben will hand her the defeat it needs to get stronger, and toughen up. If she survives it.