The grassroots of the right, who like 'less government', small business, and 'stay the eff out of my business' ... that's nominally where the philosophy libertarianism basically is.
But the party Libertarian focuses, and picks its candidates as "We're Left of the Democrats, there should be no laws and no cops, and and sucker Republicans we can entice, well, at least they didn't vote for a Republican!"
The LP thrives off being able to grift off the failures of the Democrat and Republican parties, but not be big enough to have it's own problems broadcast.
When they gave the moral mandate of "it's not good enough not to be racist, but you must be anti racist" I thought it was over for them, but a good chunk of the party forgot what libertarianism was all about.
This is the answer right here. For those of you who spent time on reddit, you could watch the takeover happen live in the libertarian sub.
You will never see such a twisted case of cognitive dissonance as with a marxist who calls himself a libertarian. If you ever meet them in person I'm sure they would conjure images of Gollum in your mind.
They're all over the internet, there's even some that find their way here once in a while. It's always fun watching a "libertarian" use the exact same tactics as a marxist all while claiming they aren't one.
Hear me out on this, though. Government built roads are actually TAXPAYER built roads.
The VAST majority of taxes come from who? Aaaand the vast majority of people ON those roads WHO DON'T PAY ANY TAXES are who?
Seems to me like one particular race is being forced to work hard, and then robbed at gunpoint by their government, to provide roads for a whole lot of other races...
And this is coming from a guy who hates talking about race, and wants everyone to just be American again.
But I just read an article about a black dude who beat and squeezed and BIT a 2 year old child TO DEATH because the child peed on a couch, so frankly right now Harlem could be reduced to ashes and I would not give a single damn.
It's true because pretty much everything the government does is racist. The government just panders to one group or another and usually the division is by race.
It seems like the Libertarian party has drifted away from the libertarians though.
Good question. All of us hate them so much. When I meet a person and they say they're a Libertarian, I ask they "Why?" and proceed to crush every argument they have.
What kills me is I used to identify as Libertarian kinda in the Stoessel vein. Once I had my own family and saw all of the anarcho politics coming from the party it disgusted me. Now I'm just right wing conservative. This social and political climate is going to lead to a conflict. The Libertarians are just a smoke screen and baby's first communism.
Of course not. Are you the type of idiot who doesn't believe in free speech and limited government and self-responsibility?
Do you believe in personal liberty and against governmental intrusion? I suspect you are like the actual Libertarian party, someone who doesn't actually know what the word means.
Libertarians don't believe in free speech of Americans, they believe in the free speech of globalist corporations. And they love when government oppression is replaced with private oppression. So go fuck yourself with those lies.
Your argument that people who oppose libertarianism oppose liberty is full-on retarded.
An actual libertarian does. You are just embarrassingly ignorant. You also conveniently declined to answer my questions.
Ron Paul was the closest thing to a libertarian we've had run for President. Limited government, maximum personal freedom. Do you support limited government and personal freedom? I do.
Here you go with the "real" libertarians this and "not real" Libertarians that nonsense again. This is another problem I have with libertarians, they act just like communists bickering over what's the "real" version of their childish ideology.
I think what be the dumbest thing about libertarians is how they hate labels, but get mega butthurt if you insult the labels they apply to themselves.
You really do think you hit a home-run with that retarded question of yours, don't you? Libertarianism isn't "limited government" and "personal freedom" -- it's a bunch of faggot yuppies who play edgelord on the internet all the while furthering progressive causes and pretending to be conservative. You even type like a liberal.
The fact that you get so offended by someone insulting libertarians as a group is all the proof I need that you have the same child-like mindset of SJWs. Calling yourself a libertarian is so ingrained in your personal identity that it's pathetic... just a bunch of posers pretending to be individualists.
I bet people are really impressed when you tell them you're a libertarian?
The whole libertarian movement is fucking bullshit and pseudo-globalism. Fuck them.
To screw with people.
The grassroots of the right, who like 'less government', small business, and 'stay the eff out of my business' ... that's nominally where the philosophy libertarianism basically is.
But the party Libertarian focuses, and picks its candidates as "We're Left of the Democrats, there should be no laws and no cops, and and sucker Republicans we can entice, well, at least they didn't vote for a Republican!"
The LP thrives off being able to grift off the failures of the Democrat and Republican parties, but not be big enough to have it's own problems broadcast.
When they gave the moral mandate of "it's not good enough not to be racist, but you must be anti racist" I thought it was over for them, but a good chunk of the party forgot what libertarianism was all about.
Because after the groundswell of support for Ron Paul back in 2008 and 2012 the Libertarian movement was co-opted by Marxists.
They saw the Libertarian movement as a threat to the establishment, so they installed people in it to kill it.
This is the answer right here. For those of you who spent time on reddit, you could watch the takeover happen live in the libertarian sub.
You will never see such a twisted case of cognitive dissonance as with a marxist who calls himself a libertarian. If you ever meet them in person I'm sure they would conjure images of Gollum in your mind.
They're all over the internet, there's even some that find their way here once in a while. It's always fun watching a "libertarian" use the exact same tactics as a marxist all while claiming they aren't one.
The idea that you can convince the government to restrain itself politically was always retarded, but now they're full on controlled opposition.
Hear me out on this, though. Government built roads are actually TAXPAYER built roads.
The VAST majority of taxes come from who? Aaaand the vast majority of people ON those roads WHO DON'T PAY ANY TAXES are who?
Seems to me like one particular race is being forced to work hard, and then robbed at gunpoint by their government, to provide roads for a whole lot of other races...
And this is coming from a guy who hates talking about race, and wants everyone to just be American again.
But I just read an article about a black dude who beat and squeezed and BIT a 2 year old child TO DEATH because the child peed on a couch, so frankly right now Harlem could be reduced to ashes and I would not give a single damn.
It's true because pretty much everything the government does is racist. The government just panders to one group or another and usually the division is by race.
It seems like the Libertarian party has drifted away from the libertarians though.
Libertarians are useful idiots of communists.
The Libertarian party is retarded because Libertarians are retarded.
Sorry to have to say, I agree with the little twerp. All roads are the color of black, as I have yet to travel on one white road in this country.
They don't have concrete by you?
No we have blacktop and grey cement. You got white cement in your cement pond?
Sorry to have to say, I agree with the little twerp. All roads are the color of black, as I have yet to travel on one white road in this country.
Libertarians are the Atheists of politics.
They don't know shit, they can't explain shit, and they refuse to admit when they're wrong.
Gotta get that democrat bribe money.
Good question. All of us hate them so much. When I meet a person and they say they're a Libertarian, I ask they "Why?" and proceed to crush every argument they have.
Big difference between being a philosophical libertarian and part of the LP.
Both are poison and stupid.
This, entirely
What kills me is I used to identify as Libertarian kinda in the Stoessel vein. Once I had my own family and saw all of the anarcho politics coming from the party it disgusted me. Now I'm just right wing conservative. This social and political climate is going to lead to a conflict. The Libertarians are just a smoke screen and baby's first communism.
This has to be a fake Twatter account. I've seen plenty of retarded bullshit from it.
The lefty libertarians took over the party and have fucked the platform up. I think you will see a much stronger (better) LP going forward.
The LP was hijacked by globohomo years ago. Ron Paul wouldn't have anything to do with them. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I believe in most Libertarian ideals. How can one not support liberty? This is insanity.
Are you the type of idiot who thinks antifa actually means anti-fascist?
Of course not. Are you the type of idiot who doesn't believe in free speech and limited government and self-responsibility?
Do you believe in personal liberty and against governmental intrusion? I suspect you are like the actual Libertarian party, someone who doesn't actually know what the word means.
Libertarians don't believe in free speech of Americans, they believe in the free speech of globalist corporations. And they love when government oppression is replaced with private oppression. So go fuck yourself with those lies.
Your argument that people who oppose libertarianism oppose liberty is full-on retarded.
An actual libertarian does. You are just embarrassingly ignorant. You also conveniently declined to answer my questions.
Ron Paul was the closest thing to a libertarian we've had run for President. Limited government, maximum personal freedom. Do you support limited government and personal freedom? I do.
Here you go with the "real" libertarians this and "not real" Libertarians that nonsense again. This is another problem I have with libertarians, they act just like communists bickering over what's the "real" version of their childish ideology.
I think what be the dumbest thing about libertarians is how they hate labels, but get mega butthurt if you insult the labels they apply to themselves.
You still refuse to answer any simple questions. Your intellectual dishonesty is laughable.
You really do think you hit a home-run with that retarded question of yours, don't you? Libertarianism isn't "limited government" and "personal freedom" -- it's a bunch of faggot yuppies who play edgelord on the internet all the while furthering progressive causes and pretending to be conservative. You even type like a liberal.
The fact that you get so offended by someone insulting libertarians as a group is all the proof I need that you have the same child-like mindset of SJWs. Calling yourself a libertarian is so ingrained in your personal identity that it's pathetic... just a bunch of posers pretending to be individualists.
I bet people are really impressed when you tell them you're a libertarian?