Unions are the ultimate grift....they take money from their rank and file and they take payoffs from the body they are supposed to protect their members from. Anyone hitched to a union is a sucker and deserves to have their money taken away from them.
Except members of unions almost always make more money than peers left to work for whatever "the market will bear". Average American man's earning power peaked in the 1970s.
Right before the unions pushed for "equality" in the workplace and displaced many happy American women by making them have to leave their children. A man used to earn all the income of a family, but now thanks to "equality", you can't support a family of ONE on what a single person makes, unless you're in a trade, management, or a specialty, and even then you have to put in the time for it. People used to support their families working at grocery stores, for crying out loud.
It really depends on the union. Small local unions seem to work well for their members. Large unions like the UAW work well for senior members and bosses, but poorly for more recent members.
A bunch of people can and should be able to decide to go on strike...
What's absolutely insane is that employers are legally prohibited from firing workers who don't show up to work during a strike.
The power a union has is the value of its members. If the union demands more than the workers are worth, the business should be free to decline, and fire the workers. It is unconscionable to behave otherwise.
It sucks too. Cause they come from a noble ideal of making sure that people aren't working in unsafe or terrible conditions and such. But today, they're they're often the very disease they claim to protect you from.
Police unions are worthless...just like every public union
Even the trade unions, I left mine this year.
Unions are the ultimate grift....they take money from their rank and file and they take payoffs from the body they are supposed to protect their members from. Anyone hitched to a union is a sucker and deserves to have their money taken away from them.
I never liked unions. They Smell bad and make your eyes water when cutting them.
Except members of unions almost always make more money than peers left to work for whatever "the market will bear". Average American man's earning power peaked in the 1970s.
Perhaps its considered one of your rare exceptions, but when membership became optional, everyone abandoned Wisconsin's teachers union overnight.
Gonna take a wild guess American manufacturing peaked at the same time...
Right before the unions pushed for "equality" in the workplace and displaced many happy American women by making them have to leave their children. A man used to earn all the income of a family, but now thanks to "equality", you can't support a family of ONE on what a single person makes, unless you're in a trade, management, or a specialty, and even then you have to put in the time for it. People used to support their families working at grocery stores, for crying out loud.
It really depends on the union. Small local unions seem to work well for their members. Large unions like the UAW work well for senior members and bosses, but poorly for more recent members.
So it’s only about the money then? Lol...using your logic why not be a bank robber? Makes more money right?
There need to be conservative unions.
"There needs to be conservative communists" :-)
They've been winning for over a century. It's pretty clear the revolution part works. It's after they take power that it all fucks up.
They're called nations
Modern conservatives seem to be opposed to those. Baby-steps, I guess?
There is, its called the RNC
Can we have one that actually does something?
Public unions should be illegal.
All unions should be illegal or at least there should be national right to work laws.
Unions don't need to be illegal...
A bunch of people can and should be able to decide to go on strike...
What's absolutely insane is that employers are legally prohibited from firing workers who don't show up to work during a strike.
The power a union has is the value of its members. If the union demands more than the workers are worth, the business should be free to decline, and fire the workers. It is unconscionable to behave otherwise.
It sucks too. Cause they come from a noble ideal of making sure that people aren't working in unsafe or terrible conditions and such. But today, they're they're often the very disease they claim to protect you from.