Okay, I can respect your points, and I think you understand mine, I'm not under the false belief that Blacks will become consistent allies as a whole, but I do think we can get them to be inconsistent allies to the democrats, because the majority black cities have been poorly run by democrats for decades and I think there are black people waking other blacks up to that fact. The democrats are giving us an opportunity with their consistent hypocritical stances that prioritize the needs of illegals over americans (and their policies disproportionally impact black Americans). Outside of these points, it is worth our effort to try, I think we have not put enough energy on this issue in many cities because of the idea that it isn't worth it, but the overall investment to challenge the dems in the cities is rather cheap.