Vaccines are one of the greatest human inventions in all of history and have probably saved more lives than anything else. Stop conflating fully tested vaccines that prevent deadly diseases with a new experimental vaccine that had not been fully tested and is only aimed at stopping a bad cold.
I'm probably not vaccinating my little one, still on the fence, any research resources you can recommend? Specifically on the differences between the vaccines ?
If you're not able to read the papers yourself (you're not -- they are hidden from the public intentionally) then you have to rely on the opinions of doctors who research these things.
And too many of them have said "no more vaccines of any kind."
India's national policy is to no longer endorse vaccines. If you get one of the diseases that there is a vaccination for, you just give the kid ivermectin and they'll get better. Same for pretty much all the diseases out there now. A lot has changed since the early 20th Century.
Most importantly, my guide is this: If CNN tells me the sky is blue, I am left to assume it is not. Your enemies will never tell you how to help yourself. Government will never tell you how to free yourself.
If Satan tells me to eat a salad, I'm going to eat a hamburger. If Dr. Fauci tells me to burp, I will fart.
Highly recommend The Vaccine Book by Dr. Bob Sears. It is a great intro to the vaccines, the diseases and the risks of both. From there, there are some great reads if you want to go further. One that is great for parents is How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor by Mendelson. Doctors often over treat and over prescribe. Also, there have been several studies showing health outcomes of unvaccinated are far superior to health outcomes of fully vaccinated kids. Each time one is published, the journals are pressured into retraction (since drug companies sponsor the journals). You may still be able to find some, don't search with Google though--they admitted to suppressing "antivaccine" search results. I also like Del Bigtree and icandecide.org and his podcast The Highwire.
I agree that the current trend of vaccinating infants and children for illnesses that are rarely (if ever) fatal and rarely (if ever) cause permanent disability is wrong. As is the practice of vaccinating all infants for sexually transmitted diseases (the HPV vaccine). Especially when those vaccines are mandated for school attendance.
However, vaccines for severe diseases such as smallpox, polio, pertussis, diptheria, and tetanus, and other diseases have saved millions of lives and untold amounts of suffering. Some specifics:
The biggest vaccine success story is smallpox. Thanks to the smallpox vaccine, smallpox - which had a 30% fatality rate and often left survivors terribly scarred - has been eradicated worldwide. It exists only in laboratory samples. The ancient curse, "A pox be upon you!" was no joke - it literally meant that you were wishing a horribly painful death to that person.
Polio is almost eradicated and exists in the wild in only a few places. Before vaccines, it was endemic worldwide. Polio has caused limb deformities or permanent paralysis in millions; one of my husband's aunts had a deformed arm and damaged lungs from a childhood bout of polio. Due to her damaged lungs, she was hospitalized with pneumonia multiple times during her life, and it was pneumonia that finally killed her.
Pertussis (whooping cough) has a very low fatality rate in adults and older children, but kills about 1% of infected infants under 1 year of age (that figure rises to 4% in developing countries due to inaccessible or inferior medical care). Nearly half of all infants under 1 year old who get pertussis require hospitalization. Even in older children and adults, the cough can last up to 10 weeks and be debilitating for 2-4 of those weeks. Plus, the coughs are so intense that you can puke from coughing and up to 4% of teens and adults with whooping cough fracture ribs from the sheer ferocity of the coughing.
Diptheria has a fatality rate of 5%-10%, though it can be up to 20% in infants and older adults. Widespread vaccination has led to about a 90% reduction in cases.
Tetanus (lockjaw) still has a fatality rate of about 10% in developed countries, though that risk is concentrated in people aged 55+. In addition to dirty puncture wounds, tetanus can be contracted by the mother and/or child during childbirth. Tetanus produces weeks of frequent, painful muscle contractions that are so severe that they can stop breathing. There is no cure; treatment consists of managing the symptoms as well as possible. Cases have been reduced by 95% and deaths by 99% since 1947 (when tetanus reporting became mandatory). Since most of the cases occur in people who were never vaccinated or were not current on their boosters, vaccines are given credit for most of these reductions.
Rabies is a special case because exposure is so rare. But if you do get bitten by a rabid animal, getting vaccinated promptly is the only thing that can save you from near-certain death.
I could go on. The current fear of being coerced into getting an undertested, unapproved COVID vaccine is rational. Being concerned with the massive numbers of vaccines being pushed into infants and young children for diseases that don't affect them (HPV) or that aren't particularly dangerous is also rational. Rejecting all vaccines out of hand is not.
Because of herd immunity, if a small percentage of the population opts out of all vaccines, everyone is still protected. (Except of course, for tetanus which is acquired through wounds, and rabies from bites from infected animals.) But if a large enough percentage of the population opts out of vaccines for communicable diseases, we will again see epidemics of diptheria, whooping cough, pertussis, polio, and other diseases.
The problem is you’re just repeating old bullshit from the past. Stuff from textbooks. Stuff from the media. Stuff from these same globohomo elites. But we now know it is all a big scam. We know they see us as cattle and feed us all lies. We know they forge peer-reviewed studies to suppress cures to diseases.
Just step out of everything we’ve ever been taught by the elites (it is all lies), and just think about it with common sense. Obviously injecting babies with fetal tissue and heavy metals is not a good thing. You could write another 500 paragraphs of text trying to justify it and it wouldn’t change that obvious fact.
Its hilarious when you go to the "why are you anti-vax" threads and ask them why they would be willing to take on 18 vaccinations in 6 months or if they might be concerned for their health; unsuprisingly none of them are actually aware of the vax schedule
Vaccines are one of the greatest human inventions in all of history and have probably saved more lives than anything else. Stop conflating fully tested vaccines that prevent deadly diseases with a new experimental vaccine that had not been fully tested and is only aimed at stopping a bad cold.
They stopped doing vaccines in the 90s. Now they inject us with aborted fetal tissue and mystery meds.
Vaccines are only necessary when treatment is not possible, the disease spreads easily, and has severe consequences.
None of that is true anymore.
People are waking up to the reality that has been hidden from us.
I'm probably not vaccinating my little one, still on the fence, any research resources you can recommend? Specifically on the differences between the vaccines ?
If you're not able to read the papers yourself (you're not -- they are hidden from the public intentionally) then you have to rely on the opinions of doctors who research these things.
And too many of them have said "no more vaccines of any kind."
India's national policy is to no longer endorse vaccines. If you get one of the diseases that there is a vaccination for, you just give the kid ivermectin and they'll get better. Same for pretty much all the diseases out there now. A lot has changed since the early 20th Century.
Most importantly, my guide is this: If CNN tells me the sky is blue, I am left to assume it is not. Your enemies will never tell you how to help yourself. Government will never tell you how to free yourself.
If Satan tells me to eat a salad, I'm going to eat a hamburger. If Dr. Fauci tells me to burp, I will fart.
Highly recommend The Vaccine Book by Dr. Bob Sears. It is a great intro to the vaccines, the diseases and the risks of both. From there, there are some great reads if you want to go further. One that is great for parents is How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor by Mendelson. Doctors often over treat and over prescribe. Also, there have been several studies showing health outcomes of unvaccinated are far superior to health outcomes of fully vaccinated kids. Each time one is published, the journals are pressured into retraction (since drug companies sponsor the journals). You may still be able to find some, don't search with Google though--they admitted to suppressing "antivaccine" search results. I also like Del Bigtree and icandecide.org and his podcast The Highwire.
Great site with lots of research:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/video-chapters/vaccines-do-not-deserve-the-credit-for-reducing-contagious-diseases/
https://www.oatext.com/pdf/JTS-3-186.pdf
The vaccine friendly plan by Paul Thomas, MD is what I personally used.
No way are vaccines one of the best human inventions. How could you say that.
I agree that the current trend of vaccinating infants and children for illnesses that are rarely (if ever) fatal and rarely (if ever) cause permanent disability is wrong. As is the practice of vaccinating all infants for sexually transmitted diseases (the HPV vaccine). Especially when those vaccines are mandated for school attendance.
However, vaccines for severe diseases such as smallpox, polio, pertussis, diptheria, and tetanus, and other diseases have saved millions of lives and untold amounts of suffering. Some specifics:
The biggest vaccine success story is smallpox. Thanks to the smallpox vaccine, smallpox - which had a 30% fatality rate and often left survivors terribly scarred - has been eradicated worldwide. It exists only in laboratory samples. The ancient curse, "A pox be upon you!" was no joke - it literally meant that you were wishing a horribly painful death to that person.
Polio is almost eradicated and exists in the wild in only a few places. Before vaccines, it was endemic worldwide. Polio has caused limb deformities or permanent paralysis in millions; one of my husband's aunts had a deformed arm and damaged lungs from a childhood bout of polio. Due to her damaged lungs, she was hospitalized with pneumonia multiple times during her life, and it was pneumonia that finally killed her.
Pertussis (whooping cough) has a very low fatality rate in adults and older children, but kills about 1% of infected infants under 1 year of age (that figure rises to 4% in developing countries due to inaccessible or inferior medical care). Nearly half of all infants under 1 year old who get pertussis require hospitalization. Even in older children and adults, the cough can last up to 10 weeks and be debilitating for 2-4 of those weeks. Plus, the coughs are so intense that you can puke from coughing and up to 4% of teens and adults with whooping cough fracture ribs from the sheer ferocity of the coughing.
Diptheria has a fatality rate of 5%-10%, though it can be up to 20% in infants and older adults. Widespread vaccination has led to about a 90% reduction in cases.
Tetanus (lockjaw) still has a fatality rate of about 10% in developed countries, though that risk is concentrated in people aged 55+. In addition to dirty puncture wounds, tetanus can be contracted by the mother and/or child during childbirth. Tetanus produces weeks of frequent, painful muscle contractions that are so severe that they can stop breathing. There is no cure; treatment consists of managing the symptoms as well as possible. Cases have been reduced by 95% and deaths by 99% since 1947 (when tetanus reporting became mandatory). Since most of the cases occur in people who were never vaccinated or were not current on their boosters, vaccines are given credit for most of these reductions.
Rabies is a special case because exposure is so rare. But if you do get bitten by a rabid animal, getting vaccinated promptly is the only thing that can save you from near-certain death.
I could go on. The current fear of being coerced into getting an undertested, unapproved COVID vaccine is rational. Being concerned with the massive numbers of vaccines being pushed into infants and young children for diseases that don't affect them (HPV) or that aren't particularly dangerous is also rational. Rejecting all vaccines out of hand is not.
Because of herd immunity, if a small percentage of the population opts out of all vaccines, everyone is still protected. (Except of course, for tetanus which is acquired through wounds, and rabies from bites from infected animals.) But if a large enough percentage of the population opts out of vaccines for communicable diseases, we will again see epidemics of diptheria, whooping cough, pertussis, polio, and other diseases.
The problem is you’re just repeating old bullshit from the past. Stuff from textbooks. Stuff from the media. Stuff from these same globohomo elites. But we now know it is all a big scam. We know they see us as cattle and feed us all lies. We know they forge peer-reviewed studies to suppress cures to diseases.
Just step out of everything we’ve ever been taught by the elites (it is all lies), and just think about it with common sense. Obviously injecting babies with fetal tissue and heavy metals is not a good thing. You could write another 500 paragraphs of text trying to justify it and it wouldn’t change that obvious fact.
I would put bleach, plumbing, electricity, and water filtration above vaccines.
cause he’s a shill
It's nuts - and probably 95%+ of those are to prevent diseases being brought in via our shitty immigration policies and lack of border enforcement.
My son has never had flu shot despite his doctor's attempts to talk me into giving him one.
Its hilarious when you go to the "why are you anti-vax" threads and ask them why they would be willing to take on 18 vaccinations in 6 months or if they might be concerned for their health; unsuprisingly none of them are actually aware of the vax schedule
To clarify; i'm not anti-vax in the slightest; but I am risk adverse; and there are just way too many too quick for my tastes.
No one would would be willing to take on a half-assed version of 18 diseases at once if they had any choice in the matter.
Polio:
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/16/780068006/how-the-oral-polio-vaccine-can-cause-polio
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio
https://www.scidev.net/asia-pacific/news/oral-polio-drops-linked-to-paralysis-in-india/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/04/14/cutter-polio-vaccine-paralyzed-children-coronavirus/
HPV/Gardasil:
https://vaccineimpact.com/2018/study-hpv-gardasil-vaccine-linked-to-decline-in-fertility-rates-in-u-s-women-aged-25-29/
https://www.hormonesmatter.com/gardasil-consequences-long-term-autoimmune-dysfunction/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28730271/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/25-reasons-to-avoid-the-gardasil-vaccine/
https://www.webmd.com/cancer/cervical-cancer/news/20090430/gardasil-linked-to-nerve-disorder
https://womenhurtbymedicine.wordpress.com/category/negative-side-effects/
https://www.yourlawyer.com/defective-drugs/vaccinations/gardasil/
http://www.gardasilhpv.com/2010/09/gardasil-and-seizures-is-vaers-now.html?m=1
https://youtu.be/1307z5xltrU
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/video-chapters/vaccines-do-not-deserve-the-credit-for-reducing-contagious-diseases/
https://www.oatext.com/pdf/JTS-3-186.pdf
https://youtu.be/V_deYlKJWOk
https://youtu.be/bib4nwlMaew