If science creates things, it's. not the scientists who say if what they discover or make is good. That's a philosophical question. The philosophical question may lead to a theological one. Neither of these fields do the first. They all serve a purpose.
Nope, what is "good" is a matter of opinion, and that is literally what philosophy and theology are, opinions by arrogant blowhards. They do not deal with objective reality, and thus everything they say can be dismissed. If they actually cared about reality, they would at least study mathematical logic, which is at least objective and reproducible. The people that study philosophy are people of average intelligence trying to convince you they're geniuses.
Undistributed middle, iirc, but this comment proves my point. The poster believes this is a "gotcha" question, because he knows philosophy, but not science. Logic is math, not philosophy. Philosophy may try to use logic, but every single piece of logic has a formal mathematical definition that exists independent of philosophy, and all ideas can be derived via logical equations. Philosophy majors think they're smart, but if they were, they would be studying logic in the math department, not smelling each others farts in the philosophy department.
Math and logic are both conceptions. They don't exist without a mind to conceive them. Even in the simplest form they are abstractions, based on arbitrary classification and grouping.
Also Tarski & Godel would disagree that all ideas can be derived using logical equations.
There's plenty such as arguing objective morals and duties. I'm not ready for the argument and know it'd be waste to try with you anyways so I wrote the above. If you think science can explain why murder, rape, assault, and theft are always objectively wrong then go ahead and think that.
Christians raped and pillaged during the dark and middle ages; is Christian morality universal? Whether you like it or not, morality, ethics, and theology are not universal across time and space. There is no objective and universal morality, and thus there is no true morality. This is not an opinion, this is an observation that every single civilization had its own morality that was different than other cultures.
If we were contacted by an Alien race, we would both have the same mathematics, physics, and even the same values for universal constants. We would have completely different morality and theology. You are the dense one, because you think your opinion is somehow universal across time and space. It takes a very small brain to believe that.
If science creates things, it's. not the scientists who say if what they discover or make is good. That's a philosophical question. The philosophical question may lead to a theological one. Neither of these fields do the first. They all serve a purpose.
Nope, what is "good" is a matter of opinion, and that is literally what philosophy and theology are, opinions by arrogant blowhards. They do not deal with objective reality, and thus everything they say can be dismissed. If they actually cared about reality, they would at least study mathematical logic, which is at least objective and reproducible. The people that study philosophy are people of average intelligence trying to convince you they're geniuses.
Hercules was a man. I'm a man. Therefore I'm Hercules.
What logical fallacy was that?
Undistributed middle, iirc, but this comment proves my point. The poster believes this is a "gotcha" question, because he knows philosophy, but not science. Logic is math, not philosophy. Philosophy may try to use logic, but every single piece of logic has a formal mathematical definition that exists independent of philosophy, and all ideas can be derived via logical equations. Philosophy majors think they're smart, but if they were, they would be studying logic in the math department, not smelling each others farts in the philosophy department.
Math and logic are both conceptions. They don't exist without a mind to conceive them. Even in the simplest form they are abstractions, based on arbitrary classification and grouping. Also Tarski & Godel would disagree that all ideas can be derived using logical equations.
There's plenty such as arguing objective morals and duties. I'm not ready for the argument and know it'd be waste to try with you anyways so I wrote the above. If you think science can explain why murder, rape, assault, and theft are always objectively wrong then go ahead and think that.
Moral relativism is one thing killing western civilization.
Christians raped and pillaged during the dark and middle ages; is Christian morality universal? Whether you like it or not, morality, ethics, and theology are not universal across time and space. There is no objective and universal morality, and thus there is no true morality. This is not an opinion, this is an observation that every single civilization had its own morality that was different than other cultures.
It's useless to argue if you don't believe there are universal moral truths. There is no common ground.
You're a hilariously dense special boy.
If we were contacted by an Alien race, we would both have the same mathematics, physics, and even the same values for universal constants. We would have completely different morality and theology. You are the dense one, because you think your opinion is somehow universal across time and space. It takes a very small brain to believe that.