Reality check: our unsheltered "homeless" population is almost 100% mentally ill and substance abusing. Many refuse to go to shelters in the first place. The rest behave in ways that necessitate kicking them out of shelters before their behavior causes all the other inhabitants to leave. Our "homeless" population is the direct result of laws and policies that shut down nearly all long-term residential psych hospitals and make it impossible to force mentally ill people into any kind of treatment until after they kill someone.
I know this is gonna be an unpopular thing to say, but there’s a reason mental asylums are abandoned and covered by forests today. We have a Dark past relating to mental health in the U.S and lots of these facilities were committing human rights violations out the ass. What you say about many of the homeless not wanting help is true though, and I agree with you; just disagree with the idea that we should go back to mental institutions. The best way to solve homelessness in the US is to create jobs like Donald J Trump did and give them to AMERICANS rather than illegal Aliens being used as heap labor.
Homelessness in this country is not about lack of jobs. And dumping crazy people onto the streets where they commit offenses against random people all day every day all over the country is not better than crazy people havibg their "human rights" violated. The only thing that's needed to prevent real systematic rights abuses in locked psych facilities is to eliminate ALL the "privacy" laws, which are actually "secrecy" laws. When the whole world can see exactly what's going on inside locked facilities the abuses will stop. Crazy people have no need for "privacy" at the expense of sane people's (and their own) safety.
That’s an interesting idea! Thanks for the response, I’ll look into privacy laws and how it allowed the mental institutions to get as bad as they were. I think more jobs is always a good thing, but you’re right in that a lot of homeless are mentally ill and don’t want to work.
There's a movie that was filmed in a mental institution in America before all the priavcy laws. I think the name was the Titticut Follies. It's eye opening. The way the patients were treated was... Well, not much different than being homeless and out on the street.
Got the chance to explore an old Asylum outside of Manassas Virginia called Forest Haven. Super creepy, apparently they found mass graves after it was abandoned. Hundreds suffered in the very last days of 1991 when it closed because the municipality left them to die. Democide is Real. Big Government is one of the most dangerous things on the planet in my opinion. Not sure what if anything could have saved them though.
Privacy laws provide cover for all kinds of abuses, not just abuses of people incarcerated in prisons or psych facilities. The foster care system is full of abuses, including massive numbers of kids who are simply missing, even though someone is still getting a check every month for providing their "care".
The huge population of people who are getting disability checks of one sort or another is another category full of abuse. Some are mentally disabled, some are physically disabled, some are getting their cash benefits directly, others have a designated payee, but all are ripe for exploitation and abuse, and nobody with any motivation to stop abuse has any access to information about them. Some of them have been dead for a long time, either from natural causes or from neglect/abuse, but somebody is still receiving and using their cash benefits and sometimes also housing and food stamp benefits.
Physical medical care is another huge area where "privacy rights" are cover for abuse and neglect. You can't find out what really happened when people claim they were harmed by a particular physician or medication or device, so misinformation and lack of information dominate the landscape, and dangerous physicians, drugs, and devices stay in the market harming people.
We really need to blow up the whole idea that privacy is a "right". It's not a right when you have no option to waive it, and when it can be used to harm or exploit you.
Some of these people would be served better working on a farm. Many of these people are completely insane or in such a condition they cannot care for themselves and become transient. Reliant on food programs catered on the curb.
Another shitty decision of St. Ronnie's, like amnesty, was closing the nut houses. Now we're awash in Leftard scumbag "justice warriors" and criminals and gimme freebies illegal alien scumbags.
Yep. Reagan pushed through reform not outright closure of the system. Others used that reform to push for the closures because they knew what would happen if we let all the crazies out. Most of the loss of beds is from the 2000's.
Libs always blame Reagan for cutting the budget, but in reality they closed because civil liberties groups made the argument that holding people against their will violated their rights.
Committing people is open to abuses. Especially when a commie regime decides being a Christian or a free thinker is mental illness, but the guy eating his own poop on the street corner should be held in a proper facility. For everyone's safety, but mostly his. Mentally ill people are targeted by predators. Plus it's cruel to not help them. Even if they don't want it. They cannot make that decision.
If good people were in positions of authority those that truly need the help would get it, without violating the rights of those who don't need full time help and could live independently. We are currently ruled by sociopaths though. They belong in the looney bin along with the poop eating guy.
That’s why the police used to arrest people for petty crimes. Because criminals start out with petty crimes and when left unchecked they graduate to more serious crimes. Basically now we don’t attest anyone unless they’re a consetvative taking selfies in the us capital. Everyone else gets a free pass. Living on the streets and using the sidewalk as a toilet used to be a punishable offense. Make it one again.
Nonsense. The problem is rooted in federal laws and federal court decisions. Anyone who is forced into treatment can sue, and activist legal groups will bring these suits anywhere. No medical facility or police or sheriff's department or city/county/state agency can afford these suits (which they will usually lose) so they refuse to do anything about the "homeless" or any other disruptive/dangerous mentally ill people.
Japan population: 126 million homeless: approx 5000
USA Population: 328 million homeless: approx
550,000
Americas solution:
Bring in more unskilled workers from foreign countries to drive down wages and take away job opportunities from those trying to get their lives back on track.
The government was infiltrated by evil, not the other way around. If government was intrinsically evil then the founding fathers would've all become scumbags.
If you cleaned up your streets from drugs, throwing addicts in mandatory detox and such, homelessness would go away.
if you had a place people could check their loved ones in for mental problems, it would never start.
It's heartbreaking to see spouses and parents abandoned because families can't deal with the issues of mental illness. If we simple allowed publicly funded asylums to exist and people to be committed we wouldn't have much of the problems.
you know what causes mental illness? We've been researching this for years and so far having married parents seems to be the only way to reduce the incidence of mental illness to begin with.
Sounds like homelessness is really a reflection of the fact that Kinsey thought it was a good idea to pay men to rape their babies and tell him about it. And the subsequent corruption of our culture into the "whatever feels good is right man" sex cult it is today.
If people would pay more attention to their duties to society via their family and less on where they want to put their sexual organs, we wouldn't have 99% of the problems we have.
I don't know that I agree with everything you said, but I am a big proponent of addressing root causes. And the family unit is as close as I can see to a root cause, it's at least on of the most root causes one can think of. So fixing the family unit ought to be priority #1. And this is doubly important for black folks, whose single motherhood rate is through the roof. Literally more black children are in single parent homes than homes with both parents. And predictably, we see the consequences in rates of criminality, high school graduation rates, etc.
I was homeless for a stretch of time. Time I spent in the mission showed me that there are people who are just shells that can't be anything but homeless as it's part of who they are now. So for people like that they have this place called the farm where the lost causes are sent for 3 hots and a cot in exchange for being a farmhand.
Dont forget that our taxes pay $60million a week to house these illegals, they each get signed up for $2000+/month "refugee benefits", section 8 housing, Medicaid AND free dental work, food stamps, WIC, TANFF, and preferred status for subsidized housing. Its disgusting
Big difference between being homeless and a voluntary degenerate crackhead. House the homeless and veterans. Fuck the others, they're past the point of no return.
The homeless vote is harvested by Democrats. Screened before casting it and purified to reflect pure blue in the polling boxes. In other words. The Democrats already have the homeless electoral power used fully. It is in their pocket.
So the Democrats focus their efforts and reasorces on bringing in new voters for them from outside. No other way to do it in masses and fast than illigal crossers.
So yeah. You give the new comers a bribe. Not the ones who are in your pocket already.
Those 500k homeless are living on the Uni-Party plantations and are jealously guarded by their Political Overlords, if you spelled overlords as "Uverlords" you could use the acronym PU to refer to Waters, Pelosi and that guy who lifts his leg to fart in public.
Some people really believe that all homeless live on the streets because that’s what they enjoy doing & that they are just junkies who don’t want to improve their lives. it’s quite sad that we have gotten to this place as a society.
Even if they have a drug addiction that doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve a second chance in life.
Getting from the streets back to a normal life isn’t easy even if you tried especially with everything becoming so expensive.
we spend billions on humanitarian aid but can’t spend it on our own people. Truly pathetic.
Reality check: our unsheltered "homeless" population is almost 100% mentally ill and substance abusing. Many refuse to go to shelters in the first place. The rest behave in ways that necessitate kicking them out of shelters before their behavior causes all the other inhabitants to leave. Our "homeless" population is the direct result of laws and policies that shut down nearly all long-term residential psych hospitals and make it impossible to force mentally ill people into any kind of treatment until after they kill someone.
100% correct. Came here to say the exact same thing.
I know this is gonna be an unpopular thing to say, but there’s a reason mental asylums are abandoned and covered by forests today. We have a Dark past relating to mental health in the U.S and lots of these facilities were committing human rights violations out the ass. What you say about many of the homeless not wanting help is true though, and I agree with you; just disagree with the idea that we should go back to mental institutions. The best way to solve homelessness in the US is to create jobs like Donald J Trump did and give them to AMERICANS rather than illegal Aliens being used as heap labor.
Homelessness in this country is not about lack of jobs. And dumping crazy people onto the streets where they commit offenses against random people all day every day all over the country is not better than crazy people havibg their "human rights" violated. The only thing that's needed to prevent real systematic rights abuses in locked psych facilities is to eliminate ALL the "privacy" laws, which are actually "secrecy" laws. When the whole world can see exactly what's going on inside locked facilities the abuses will stop. Crazy people have no need for "privacy" at the expense of sane people's (and their own) safety.
That’s an interesting idea! Thanks for the response, I’ll look into privacy laws and how it allowed the mental institutions to get as bad as they were. I think more jobs is always a good thing, but you’re right in that a lot of homeless are mentally ill and don’t want to work.
There's a movie that was filmed in a mental institution in America before all the priavcy laws. I think the name was the Titticut Follies. It's eye opening. The way the patients were treated was... Well, not much different than being homeless and out on the street.
Got the chance to explore an old Asylum outside of Manassas Virginia called Forest Haven. Super creepy, apparently they found mass graves after it was abandoned. Hundreds suffered in the very last days of 1991 when it closed because the municipality left them to die. Democide is Real. Big Government is one of the most dangerous things on the planet in my opinion. Not sure what if anything could have saved them though.
Wow. Sad.
Privacy laws provide cover for all kinds of abuses, not just abuses of people incarcerated in prisons or psych facilities. The foster care system is full of abuses, including massive numbers of kids who are simply missing, even though someone is still getting a check every month for providing their "care".
The huge population of people who are getting disability checks of one sort or another is another category full of abuse. Some are mentally disabled, some are physically disabled, some are getting their cash benefits directly, others have a designated payee, but all are ripe for exploitation and abuse, and nobody with any motivation to stop abuse has any access to information about them. Some of them have been dead for a long time, either from natural causes or from neglect/abuse, but somebody is still receiving and using their cash benefits and sometimes also housing and food stamp benefits.
Physical medical care is another huge area where "privacy rights" are cover for abuse and neglect. You can't find out what really happened when people claim they were harmed by a particular physician or medication or device, so misinformation and lack of information dominate the landscape, and dangerous physicians, drugs, and devices stay in the market harming people.
We really need to blow up the whole idea that privacy is a "right". It's not a right when you have no option to waive it, and when it can be used to harm or exploit you.
I agree with both the solution and the transparency into it.
Some of these people would be served better working on a farm. Many of these people are completely insane or in such a condition they cannot care for themselves and become transient. Reliant on food programs catered on the curb.
Another shitty decision of St. Ronnie's, like amnesty, was closing the nut houses. Now we're awash in Leftard scumbag "justice warriors" and criminals and gimme freebies illegal alien scumbags.
ACLU is responsible for closing funny farms.
Yep. Reagan pushed through reform not outright closure of the system. Others used that reform to push for the closures because they knew what would happen if we let all the crazies out. Most of the loss of beds is from the 2000's.
As I recall, Govenor Reagan did it in California. Perhaps in response to ACLU?
Libs always blame Reagan for cutting the budget, but in reality they closed because civil liberties groups made the argument that holding people against their will violated their rights.
Committing people is open to abuses. Especially when a commie regime decides being a Christian or a free thinker is mental illness, but the guy eating his own poop on the street corner should be held in a proper facility. For everyone's safety, but mostly his. Mentally ill people are targeted by predators. Plus it's cruel to not help them. Even if they don't want it. They cannot make that decision.
If good people were in positions of authority those that truly need the help would get it, without violating the rights of those who don't need full time help and could live independently. We are currently ruled by sociopaths though. They belong in the looney bin along with the poop eating guy.
That’s why the police used to arrest people for petty crimes. Because criminals start out with petty crimes and when left unchecked they graduate to more serious crimes. Basically now we don’t attest anyone unless they’re a consetvative taking selfies in the us capital. Everyone else gets a free pass. Living on the streets and using the sidewalk as a toilet used to be a punishable offense. Make it one again.
It’s really not if you don’t live in a progressive shit hole or vote for progressives bent on decriminalizing everything.
Nonsense. The problem is rooted in federal laws and federal court decisions. Anyone who is forced into treatment can sue, and activist legal groups will bring these suits anywhere. No medical facility or police or sheriff's department or city/county/state agency can afford these suits (which they will usually lose) so they refuse to do anything about the "homeless" or any other disruptive/dangerous mentally ill people.
Who is saying anything about treatment?
I am talking about prison.
Where you can force mental health treatment on mentally ill people.
Hence my comment about decriminalization. If you criminalize the behavior and send them to prison, they get treatment one way or another.
Do we have a successful track record of people getting better in prison?
As long as they aren’t on the streets, couldn’t care less. 🤷🏼♂️
The government is a source of evil and confusion. Its just that simple.
Japan population: 126 million homeless: approx 5000 USA Population: 328 million homeless: approx 550,000
Americas solution: Bring in more unskilled workers from foreign countries to drive down wages and take away job opportunities from those trying to get their lives back on track.
The government was infiltrated by evil, not the other way around. If government was intrinsically evil then the founding fathers would've all become scumbags.
The Founding Fathers recognized the Federal Gov't as the biggest threats to our Liberty.
This is why they created a system that specifically limited what the government could do.
Governments will always try to expand their reach and power. That happened here in 1913 and progressively since.
Our current government has perverse incentives that reward the corrupt, so that's exactly the type of people it attracts.
HOMELESSNESS is not caused by a lack of housing.
It is caused by mental illness, at first.
It is perpetuated with drug abuse.
If you cleaned up your streets from drugs, throwing addicts in mandatory detox and such, homelessness would go away.
if you had a place people could check their loved ones in for mental problems, it would never start.
It's heartbreaking to see spouses and parents abandoned because families can't deal with the issues of mental illness. If we simple allowed publicly funded asylums to exist and people to be committed we wouldn't have much of the problems.
you know what causes mental illness? We've been researching this for years and so far having married parents seems to be the only way to reduce the incidence of mental illness to begin with.
Sounds like homelessness is really a reflection of the fact that Kinsey thought it was a good idea to pay men to rape their babies and tell him about it. And the subsequent corruption of our culture into the "whatever feels good is right man" sex cult it is today.
If people would pay more attention to their duties to society via their family and less on where they want to put their sexual organs, we wouldn't have 99% of the problems we have.
I don't know that I agree with everything you said, but I am a big proponent of addressing root causes. And the family unit is as close as I can see to a root cause, it's at least on of the most root causes one can think of. So fixing the family unit ought to be priority #1. And this is doubly important for black folks, whose single motherhood rate is through the roof. Literally more black children are in single parent homes than homes with both parents. And predictably, we see the consequences in rates of criminality, high school graduation rates, etc.
I was homeless for a stretch of time. Time I spent in the mission showed me that there are people who are just shells that can't be anything but homeless as it's part of who they are now. So for people like that they have this place called the farm where the lost causes are sent for 3 hots and a cot in exchange for being a farmhand.
That's actually a great idea. For these people there's no hope for recovery.
Don't do drugs, kids.
Guess how many of them died from "COVID"? (Spoiler: Not many, if at all)
Dont forget that our taxes pay $60million a week to house these illegals, they each get signed up for $2000+/month "refugee benefits", section 8 housing, Medicaid AND free dental work, food stamps, WIC, TANFF, and preferred status for subsidized housing. Its disgusting
Many of them veterans. It's sickening what our government does.
Because "Fuck Us" is officially the motto of the party in power as well as the establishment that supports them.
Big difference between being homeless and a voluntary degenerate crackhead. House the homeless and veterans. Fuck the others, they're past the point of no return.
Because they are flooding in the new voter base
Because you’re being replaced.
The homeless vote is harvested by Democrats. Screened before casting it and purified to reflect pure blue in the polling boxes. In other words. The Democrats already have the homeless electoral power used fully. It is in their pocket.
So the Democrats focus their efforts and reasorces on bringing in new voters for them from outside. No other way to do it in masses and fast than illigal crossers. So yeah. You give the new comers a bribe. Not the ones who are in your pocket already.
In the words of the resident of the white house, they ain't black
Because our government HATES Americans.
they're not future voters.
because homeless people for the most part are insane. and they shut down all the insane asylums
Those 500k homeless are living on the Uni-Party plantations and are jealously guarded by their Political Overlords, if you spelled overlords as "Uverlords" you could use the acronym PU to refer to Waters, Pelosi and that guy who lifts his leg to fart in public.
They already vote democrat so no need to help them out too much. Just once every four years.
Makes you kinda wanna get into the law-breaking game
So many people say - BeCaUsE ThEy WAnT To BE HOMelESS
Some people really believe that all homeless live on the streets because that’s what they enjoy doing & that they are just junkies who don’t want to improve their lives. it’s quite sad that we have gotten to this place as a society. Even if they have a drug addiction that doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve a second chance in life. Getting from the streets back to a normal life isn’t easy even if you tried especially with everything becoming so expensive. we spend billions on humanitarian aid but can’t spend it on our own people. Truly pathetic.
Most of our homeless are foreign-born, and those who aren't are mostly drug addicts so this is one injustice that doesn't really bother me.
But it affects our quality of life when they’re allowed to live on our sidewalks and use them as bathrooms with impunity.
I absolutely agree with you! I hate seeing their nasty tent towns and filth everywhere
It happened under Ronald Reagan. So did the 1st Amnesty. These are two things that should have NEVER seen the light of day!
Or they could get a fucking job.
The homeless already vote democrat
The issue isn't the issue.
NB: Our homeless are not noble victims of unjust circumstances.