Except Christians have progressed into the modern age. It is a statement of fact to say Islam is still living in the dark age.
CURRENTLY, no other religion on earth has a suicide bombing problem. No other religion on earth quotes their bible while filming a beheading on video, or says their god is great before exploding themselves up. No other religion teaches how to make pressure cooker bombs on your kitchen table and blow up marathon runners.
Christian parents who read the Bible nowadays don’t acid attack their children, and don’t honor kill them. Can’t say the same for the ones reading the koran. How about gunning down cartoonists for insulting Jesus, not really happening either. Did any Christians get put to death by Christians for blasphemy this year? How many Christians got out to death by muslims?
How about raping and beheading on video 2 Scandinavian girls because the quoran says it’s okay to humiliate, rape and kill non-believers and to kill the infidel using a blade on their throat?
Equating modern Christianity to Islam teachings is intellectual dishonesty.
as if suicide bombing has its reason in islamic theology. that's nonsensical.
suicide bombing has existed and will always exist in any struggle where no other means are available. The germans did it in 1945 when they were losing, the japanese did it too. The Rott Army Faktion did it even in the 70s.
It is you who is guilty of intellectual dishonesty if you make suicide bombing rooted in Islam when it has nothing to do with its theology.
And regarding the scandinavian victims amongst others, the crime of some batshit crazy monsters doesn't make that linked to the theology.
The quran says it's okay to humiliate rape and kill non-believers?! that's new! Perhaps you are quoting the Talmud and thinking it's the quran, cause I read the quran back to back and several times and there is no such thing there.
The quran says it's okay to humiliate rape and kill non-believers?! that's new!
Nowhere in the Koran are Muslims told to love non-Muslims. There is no concept of a universal brotherhood or the Golden Rule in Islam. In fact, the Koran says Muslims the best of people (3:110) and we non-Muslims are literally the worst of all creatures (88:5 and 98:6).
Muslims are taught a supremacy doctrine called jahiliyya, which means any culture without Islam - that's ours - is "ignorant and stupid." Muslims are forbidden from befriending non-Muslims (3:118, 5:51, 5:80) - even non-Muslim family members (99:23) - unless it's to deceive us (3:28). They're taught that we only hate, harm, and corrupt Muslims (5:51, 3:28, 3:118). We are forever their enemy (4:101) and they are to shun us (53:29).
The Koran incessantly preaches our inferiority, calling us diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171), unclean (9:28), ignorant (6:111), cursed (4:52), diseased (5:52), Satan's helpers (4:76), deceitful (3:73), and worse than demons (46:29-35). 7:176 compares us to "panting dogs" in our idiocy and worthlessness. 5:60 says apes and pigs are Jews that Allah turned into animals (see also 7:166 and 2:65), and Mohammed believed rats were also "mutated Jews" (Sahih Bukhari 54:524; Sahih Muslim 7135-36).
More than 30 verses in the Koran tell Muslims to fight us (2:193, 8:38-39, 9:29, 9:5 and more). In fact, they're to be ruthless towards us since we're all going to Muslim hell anyway (9:73, 66:9). Five hundred more verses speak of our place in Muslim hell (40:70-72, 22:19-22, and many more).
There is so much wrong in every single sentence that you have put forward that I don't even know where to begin. But I will try nonetheless, out of good will.
Nowhere in the Koran are Muslims told to love non-Muslims. There is no concept of a universal brotherhood or the Golden Rule in Islam. In fact, the Koran says Muslims the best of people (3:110) and we non-Muslims are literally the worst of all creatures (88:5 and 98:6).
How are we supposed to love those who lie, and those who kill and those who mock the Lord and his teachings? Do you? It's strange, you want God to tell you: "Go and love all those who hate me and who do the opposite of My teachings" ? You want us to love those who make human sacrifice and worship false gods, pagans?
That's how I respond to that, eventhough I'm not a scholar.
'muslim' doesn't refer to muslims that believe in islam. muslim in arabic is a generic word that include all the righteous who follow the word of God and His teachings. Those who believe in God and don't lie, and who are not miscreant aren't they the best indeed? Also, putting it (3:110) doesn't count as quoting it. And it's funny cause if you did it would exactly refute your point :
3:110
"You are the best ‘Ummah ever raised for mankind. You bid the Fair and forbid the Unfair, and you believe in Allah. If the people of the Book had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them, there are believers, while most of them are sinners."
People of the Book are Jews and Christians, the quran here acknowledges that people of the book that are real believers are amongst the best, if they bid the fair and forbid the unfair. It's funny that you say the quran says that muslims are the best while the quran itself defines "You bid the Fair and forbid the Unfair" as the best people without ever using the word "muslim".
Again, the number 88:5 without quoting the text itself is misleading and if I was of bad will I would say that you do it on purpose to look as if you are truthful while you're not. I will quote it for you:
88:5
"They will be given drink from a boiling spring."
This verse only describes what happens to those who go to hell. Who are they? The not rightenous who didn't believe in god and who will be humbled in the day of Judgement. I read the whole chapter and there is no place where it is written non-Muslim or as opposed to Muslim.
Again, the very verse you refer to actually completely refutes your whole point however you refuse to quote it as is! I wonder why you kee it concealed!
98:6
"Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."
It clearly states that amongst the people of the scripture (jews and christians) those who disbelieve in God and who do not believe in the One God, will have to go to hell and that they are the worst. Did it say that ALL christian and ALL jews are the worst? where? the very verse you quote clearly makes a big distinction and recognises that there are many righteous Jews and many righteous Christians. And that some of them, those who are not righteous are the worse.
I find it funny that the quran alone defeats your own ideas I don't need to do any extra thinking.
Muslims are taught a supremacy doctrine called jahiliyya, which means any culture without Islam - that's ours - is "ignorant and stupid." Muslims are forbidden from befriending non-Muslims (3:118, 5:51, 5:80) - even non-Muslim family members (99:23) - unless it's to deceive us (3:28). They're taught that we only hate, harm, and corrupt Muslims (5:51, 3:28, 3:118). We are forever their enemy (4:101) and they are to shun us (53:29).
Supremacy doctrine called Jahiliyya??! Bullshit if I ever seen any. Jahiliya in arabic refers to the era of paganism that reigned in the arabian peninsula. That era was characterised with tribalism, sacrifice of humans, particularly baby girls that were buried alive and complete disregard to the path of righteousness. Islam came particularly to stop that. Yes, we are superior to those who buried their babies alive. Would you want me to say otherwise?
But then again you use Jahiliya to describe Christians? You did that, not the quran. the quran refers to christians as people of the book or people of scripture as seen above. Again, how do you use that to conclude that muslims are told they are superior to christians?!
Again, you quote the quran using the numbers but don't quote the text, yet the text itself refutes your point:
3:118
"O you who have believed, do not take as intimates those other than yourselves, for they will not spare you [any] ruin. They wish you would have hardship. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. We have certainly made clear to you the signs, if you will use reason."
The quran is talking to those who belive in God. and includes you. Do you want the quran to tell me to go befriend pagans and satanists who sacrifice humans and kill babies? Unless, you are not a true believer and not a truth seeker and that you talk to me with hatred. Cause I see clearly you are not in here to befriend me. again, the word "muslim" as opposed to christian is nowhere to be found in the quote.
5:51
"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."
Again, you quote this with the number but not with the text. The words are really important! you speak about "befriending"! In this quote, the quran uses exactly the word "ally" (and that is but a mere translation, the original word is even more specific, where it adds the meaning of "authority" to alliance, as in do not seek authority and alliance from jew or christians). Allies as a word point to you that this verse is a war context specific verse. In effect this verse was written specifically for those who were in war at the time of Muhammad, against the pagans of the arabian penninsula. The logical thing to do at the time would have been to seek christians and jews help against the pagans (as they both are monotheistic abrahamic religions that are close to islam) but the quran specifies no to seek their alliance and authority in that war and rightly so, because the local christians and jews in that area and that time were largely benefitting from the existance of these pagans as they have never seeked to bring them to the word of God. Would you as a Christian or as a Jew, take the jews and christians of that era and of that place as allies if you know they have been profiteering and benefitting and letting the pagans do as they please?
5:80
"You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally."
Again you quote the number and conceal the text, why?
The text clearly specifies in this context allying yourself with those who disbelieved! not about befriending but about the context of war. In a war, yourself, as a christian or jew, would you ally yourself with pagans against the will of God?
I looked for verse 99:23 in the quran it doesn't exist, chapter 99 has only 8 verses. where does it talk about non muslim family members? I read the quran many times and it never mentions non muslims except on the matter of marriage where muslims should not marry pagans (for obvious reasons), they can marry people of the book and people of the scriptures but with careful consideration and finally a verse I find it particularly important, about muhammad and his uncle who was a pagan and who was dying. Muhammad was trying to get him to belive in the One God on his death bed:
28:56
"Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided."
But then again you quote a non existent verse, and then you connect it from a verse from another chapter and therefore from another context, 99:23 supposedly with 3:28, 99 is far off from 3 at least through numbers let alone through what happens in that chapter. it's like telling me quoting a novel:
"my mother slapped me" - 0:28
"So I shot the animal!" - 156:23
while the story in chapter 0 is about me lying to the neighbours and mum giving me a good bit of education, and chapter 156 is about me when as an adult I indulged in a hunting adventure.
But what's worse is that you don't even quote the whole text. You won't fool me cause I know the quran. so why are you doing it? why are you concealing important text? who are you trying to conceal it from?
3:28
"Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."
Again- you quote this to talk about non muslim family member and you say that the Quran says to deceive them! where do you see deception in here?! I only see your deception attempt. Worse! again the quote from the quran itself refutes your very idea. In here the quran talks to believers as opposed to disbelivers and that includes anyone who believes in God! where do you see the word "muslim" in this quote?! And the quran even gives you leeway to ally yourself with disbelievers if you take precautions! Where does it say anything of what you accuse the quran of?!
5:51, 3:28 and 3:118 has already been quoted see above. And you claim that in these the quran says that jews and christians only hate harm and corrupt? In fact it says almost the opposite if not saying something totally unrelated! If you are christian or jew and quoting this stuff in so twisted a fashion, maybe you are yourself what you accuse falsely the quran of calling the christians and jews... That is wrong. it means you are really really twisted and miscreant.
Again, you quote without the text 4:101 to say that the quran tells us that christians are always the enemy, and then you quote a totally unrelated chapter 53:29. Here is 4:101
4:101
"And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer, [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you. Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy."
The word disbeliever here is used again to specify pagans, and those who are harming people while they pray.
Aren't pagans and more so pagans that try to kill you while you are praying to be considered clear enemies? you tell me.
53:29
"So turn away from whoever turns his back on Our message and desires not except the worldly life."
53:29, no "muslim" vs non-muslim words are used. in fact it tells me to stop interacting with you as you are completely turning your back on the message, misquoting it, and concealing it (turning your back on it in some way) But to be more specific, and in context, if you read 53:27-29 correctly you understand who the Lord means in this chapter specifically:
53:27-29
"Indeed, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels female names, 27 And they have thereof no knowledge. They follow not except assumption, and indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. 28 So turn away from whoever turns his back on Our message and desires not except the worldly life. 29"
Do christians believe in the Hereafter ? where God judges us on our deeds? I know so. Do Jews believe in the Hereafter? I know so. How does this verse apply to muslims vs non-muslims ? I don't know! You tell me and I let whomever read this understand.
The succession of verses here specifically talks about pagans of the jahiliyya who lived in the arabian peninsula, who never believed in the after life(1/?)
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Except Christians have progressed into the modern age. It is a statement of fact to say Islam is still living in the dark age.
CURRENTLY, no other religion on earth has a suicide bombing problem. No other religion on earth quotes their bible while filming a beheading on video, or says their god is great before exploding themselves up. No other religion teaches how to make pressure cooker bombs on your kitchen table and blow up marathon runners.
Christian parents who read the Bible nowadays don’t acid attack their children, and don’t honor kill them. Can’t say the same for the ones reading the koran. How about gunning down cartoonists for insulting Jesus, not really happening either. Did any Christians get put to death by Christians for blasphemy this year? How many Christians got out to death by muslims?
How about raping and beheading on video 2 Scandinavian girls because the quoran says it’s okay to humiliate, rape and kill non-believers and to kill the infidel using a blade on their throat? Equating modern Christianity to Islam teachings is intellectual dishonesty.
as if suicide bombing has its reason in islamic theology. that's nonsensical.
suicide bombing has existed and will always exist in any struggle where no other means are available. The germans did it in 1945 when they were losing, the japanese did it too. The Rott Army Faktion did it even in the 70s.
It is you who is guilty of intellectual dishonesty if you make suicide bombing rooted in Islam when it has nothing to do with its theology.
And regarding the scandinavian victims amongst others, the crime of some batshit crazy monsters doesn't make that linked to the theology.
The quran says it's okay to humiliate rape and kill non-believers?! that's new! Perhaps you are quoting the Talmud and thinking it's the quran, cause I read the quran back to back and several times and there is no such thing there.
Nowhere in the Koran are Muslims told to love non-Muslims. There is no concept of a universal brotherhood or the Golden Rule in Islam. In fact, the Koran says Muslims the best of people (3:110) and we non-Muslims are literally the worst of all creatures (88:5 and 98:6).
Muslims are taught a supremacy doctrine called jahiliyya, which means any culture without Islam - that's ours - is "ignorant and stupid." Muslims are forbidden from befriending non-Muslims (3:118, 5:51, 5:80) - even non-Muslim family members (99:23) - unless it's to deceive us (3:28). They're taught that we only hate, harm, and corrupt Muslims (5:51, 3:28, 3:118). We are forever their enemy (4:101) and they are to shun us (53:29).
The Koran incessantly preaches our inferiority, calling us diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171), unclean (9:28), ignorant (6:111), cursed (4:52), diseased (5:52), Satan's helpers (4:76), deceitful (3:73), and worse than demons (46:29-35). 7:176 compares us to "panting dogs" in our idiocy and worthlessness. 5:60 says apes and pigs are Jews that Allah turned into animals (see also 7:166 and 2:65), and Mohammed believed rats were also "mutated Jews" (Sahih Bukhari 54:524; Sahih Muslim 7135-36).
More than 30 verses in the Koran tell Muslims to fight us (2:193, 8:38-39, 9:29, 9:5 and more). In fact, they're to be ruthless towards us since we're all going to Muslim hell anyway (9:73, 66:9). Five hundred more verses speak of our place in Muslim hell (40:70-72, 22:19-22, and many more).
There is so much wrong in every single sentence that you have put forward that I don't even know where to begin. But I will try nonetheless, out of good will.
How are we supposed to love those who lie, and those who kill and those who mock the Lord and his teachings? Do you? It's strange, you want God to tell you: "Go and love all those who hate me and who do the opposite of My teachings" ? You want us to love those who make human sacrifice and worship false gods, pagans? That's how I respond to that, eventhough I'm not a scholar.
'muslim' doesn't refer to muslims that believe in islam. muslim in arabic is a generic word that include all the righteous who follow the word of God and His teachings. Those who believe in God and don't lie, and who are not miscreant aren't they the best indeed? Also, putting it (3:110) doesn't count as quoting it. And it's funny cause if you did it would exactly refute your point :
3:110 "You are the best ‘Ummah ever raised for mankind. You bid the Fair and forbid the Unfair, and you believe in Allah. If the people of the Book had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them, there are believers, while most of them are sinners."
People of the Book are Jews and Christians, the quran here acknowledges that people of the book that are real believers are amongst the best, if they bid the fair and forbid the unfair. It's funny that you say the quran says that muslims are the best while the quran itself defines "You bid the Fair and forbid the Unfair" as the best people without ever using the word "muslim".
Again, the number 88:5 without quoting the text itself is misleading and if I was of bad will I would say that you do it on purpose to look as if you are truthful while you're not. I will quote it for you:
88:5 "They will be given drink from a boiling spring."
This verse only describes what happens to those who go to hell. Who are they? The not rightenous who didn't believe in god and who will be humbled in the day of Judgement. I read the whole chapter and there is no place where it is written non-Muslim or as opposed to Muslim.
Again, the very verse you refer to actually completely refutes your whole point however you refuse to quote it as is! I wonder why you kee it concealed!
98:6 "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."
It clearly states that amongst the people of the scripture (jews and christians) those who disbelieve in God and who do not believe in the One God, will have to go to hell and that they are the worst. Did it say that ALL christian and ALL jews are the worst? where? the very verse you quote clearly makes a big distinction and recognises that there are many righteous Jews and many righteous Christians. And that some of them, those who are not righteous are the worse.
I find it funny that the quran alone defeats your own ideas I don't need to do any extra thinking.
Supremacy doctrine called Jahiliyya??! Bullshit if I ever seen any. Jahiliya in arabic refers to the era of paganism that reigned in the arabian peninsula. That era was characterised with tribalism, sacrifice of humans, particularly baby girls that were buried alive and complete disregard to the path of righteousness. Islam came particularly to stop that. Yes, we are superior to those who buried their babies alive. Would you want me to say otherwise? But then again you use Jahiliya to describe Christians? You did that, not the quran. the quran refers to christians as people of the book or people of scripture as seen above. Again, how do you use that to conclude that muslims are told they are superior to christians?!
Again, you quote the quran using the numbers but don't quote the text, yet the text itself refutes your point:
3:118 "O you who have believed, do not take as intimates those other than yourselves, for they will not spare you [any] ruin. They wish you would have hardship. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. We have certainly made clear to you the signs, if you will use reason."
The quran is talking to those who belive in God. and includes you. Do you want the quran to tell me to go befriend pagans and satanists who sacrifice humans and kill babies? Unless, you are not a true believer and not a truth seeker and that you talk to me with hatred. Cause I see clearly you are not in here to befriend me. again, the word "muslim" as opposed to christian is nowhere to be found in the quote.
5:51 "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."
Again, you quote this with the number but not with the text. The words are really important! you speak about "befriending"! In this quote, the quran uses exactly the word "ally" (and that is but a mere translation, the original word is even more specific, where it adds the meaning of "authority" to alliance, as in do not seek authority and alliance from jew or christians). Allies as a word point to you that this verse is a war context specific verse. In effect this verse was written specifically for those who were in war at the time of Muhammad, against the pagans of the arabian penninsula. The logical thing to do at the time would have been to seek christians and jews help against the pagans (as they both are monotheistic abrahamic religions that are close to islam) but the quran specifies no to seek their alliance and authority in that war and rightly so, because the local christians and jews in that area and that time were largely benefitting from the existance of these pagans as they have never seeked to bring them to the word of God. Would you as a Christian or as a Jew, take the jews and christians of that era and of that place as allies if you know they have been profiteering and benefitting and letting the pagans do as they please?
5:80 "You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally."
Again you quote the number and conceal the text, why? The text clearly specifies in this context allying yourself with those who disbelieved! not about befriending but about the context of war. In a war, yourself, as a christian or jew, would you ally yourself with pagans against the will of God?
I looked for verse 99:23 in the quran it doesn't exist, chapter 99 has only 8 verses. where does it talk about non muslim family members? I read the quran many times and it never mentions non muslims except on the matter of marriage where muslims should not marry pagans (for obvious reasons), they can marry people of the book and people of the scriptures but with careful consideration and finally a verse I find it particularly important, about muhammad and his uncle who was a pagan and who was dying. Muhammad was trying to get him to belive in the One God on his death bed:
28:56 "Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided."
But then again you quote a non existent verse, and then you connect it from a verse from another chapter and therefore from another context, 99:23 supposedly with 3:28, 99 is far off from 3 at least through numbers let alone through what happens in that chapter. it's like telling me quoting a novel: "my mother slapped me" - 0:28 "So I shot the animal!" - 156:23 while the story in chapter 0 is about me lying to the neighbours and mum giving me a good bit of education, and chapter 156 is about me when as an adult I indulged in a hunting adventure. But what's worse is that you don't even quote the whole text. You won't fool me cause I know the quran. so why are you doing it? why are you concealing important text? who are you trying to conceal it from?
3:28 "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."
Again- you quote this to talk about non muslim family member and you say that the Quran says to deceive them! where do you see deception in here?! I only see your deception attempt. Worse! again the quote from the quran itself refutes your very idea. In here the quran talks to believers as opposed to disbelivers and that includes anyone who believes in God! where do you see the word "muslim" in this quote?! And the quran even gives you leeway to ally yourself with disbelievers if you take precautions! Where does it say anything of what you accuse the quran of?!
5:51, 3:28 and 3:118 has already been quoted see above. And you claim that in these the quran says that jews and christians only hate harm and corrupt? In fact it says almost the opposite if not saying something totally unrelated! If you are christian or jew and quoting this stuff in so twisted a fashion, maybe you are yourself what you accuse falsely the quran of calling the christians and jews... That is wrong. it means you are really really twisted and miscreant.
Again, you quote without the text 4:101 to say that the quran tells us that christians are always the enemy, and then you quote a totally unrelated chapter 53:29. Here is 4:101
4:101 "And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer, [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you. Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy."
The word disbeliever here is used again to specify pagans, and those who are harming people while they pray. Aren't pagans and more so pagans that try to kill you while you are praying to be considered clear enemies? you tell me.
53:29 "So turn away from whoever turns his back on Our message and desires not except the worldly life."
53:29, no "muslim" vs non-muslim words are used. in fact it tells me to stop interacting with you as you are completely turning your back on the message, misquoting it, and concealing it (turning your back on it in some way) But to be more specific, and in context, if you read 53:27-29 correctly you understand who the Lord means in this chapter specifically:
53:27-29 "Indeed, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels female names, 27 And they have thereof no knowledge. They follow not except assumption, and indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. 28 So turn away from whoever turns his back on Our message and desires not except the worldly life. 29"
Do christians believe in the Hereafter ? where God judges us on our deeds? I know so. Do Jews believe in the Hereafter? I know so. How does this verse apply to muslims vs non-muslims ? I don't know! You tell me and I let whomever read this understand. The succession of verses here specifically talks about pagans of the jahiliyya who lived in the arabian peninsula, who never believed in the after life(1/?)