Pointing to the global population as proof that Islam isn’t killing is not the takeaway.
Equating Christian practices of centuries ago to regressive Islamic practices of today in dishonest.
Shariah courts in Somalia are still amputating limbs. If power vacuum occurs in North Africa or Middle East, it’s a matter of time before Islamic insurgents come in and terrorize and kill in the name of Allah.
You cannot equate the radical terror Islam has today to Christianity today.
In fact, time after time, Christians are killed at the hands of Islamic radicals. Not the other way around.
The only reason for that is that the ruling class in 'Christian' countries are secular the same way ruling class in your head is the only way stopping north africa and middle east from going bonkers.
Also, it is extremely twisted to see that it's ok for Christians to hate muslims (as long as they don't kill them) and accuse all muslims of hate when a small number of fanactics do the killings. Very twisted indeed. I'm muslim and I know that 90% are like me in that they do not hate the christians at all. But you and your way of thinking make all christians hate the muslims for the deed of the criminals. That's dishonesty.
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat us. This is deeply rooted in Islamic teaching, beginning 1400 years ago with the examples set by Mohammed, and they've been doing it ever since. Mohammed is considered by Muslims to have been the perfect human being and they are to emulate him in literally every way (Koran 33:21 and 68:4).
Allah was a liar. Koran 3:54 says "Allah is the best of deceivers." (Who else is called "the father of lies?" Hm...) The Arabic word used is makara which literally means "deceit." If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Mohammed was a liar. He infamously said, "War is deceit." (Sahih Bukhari 52:269) The context for this was slaughter of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Mohammed's soldiers, after they had been disarmed and "guaranteed" safe passage.
There are several different forms of lying that are sacred to Muslims:
Taqiyya is saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity. This is a Shiite term. The Sunni counterpart is muda'rat.
Kitman is lying by omission.
Tawriya is intentionally creating a false impression.
Muruna is "blending in" by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.
The only instance where lying has been condoned is in the case of war. where intelligence and counter intelligence is used. and you quoted correctly: war is deceit. as the only correct quote amongst all these.
As of calling God deceiver. you again chose to take but an excerpt, unveiling your intellectual dishonesty for all to see:
8:30
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they deceive, and Allah deceives [them]. And Allah is the best of deceivers."
Again, the context is key. these were the pagans I told you about in previous responses, who plotted to kill and deceive the prophet a few of the believers with him. the powerless muslims then left everything to God. And here God comforts them in sayin that although they will plot and scheme, God will deceive them and their schemes, and that in that God is the best deceiver. Is it an invitation for muslims to deceive or to lie? Absolutely not.
It is sad to see you go through these length to keep propagating lies. Again, I will talk to you the human, the person, "is this not the truth?" question yourself. everything is laid bare.
Pointing to the global population as proof that Islam isn’t killing is not the takeaway.
Equating Christian practices of centuries ago to regressive Islamic practices of today in dishonest.
Shariah courts in Somalia are still amputating limbs. If power vacuum occurs in North Africa or Middle East, it’s a matter of time before Islamic insurgents come in and terrorize and kill in the name of Allah.
You cannot equate the radical terror Islam has today to Christianity today.
In fact, time after time, Christians are killed at the hands of Islamic radicals. Not the other way around.
That’s all.
The only reason for that is that the ruling class in 'Christian' countries are secular the same way ruling class in your head is the only way stopping north africa and middle east from going bonkers. Also, it is extremely twisted to see that it's ok for Christians to hate muslims (as long as they don't kill them) and accuse all muslims of hate when a small number of fanactics do the killings. Very twisted indeed. I'm muslim and I know that 90% are like me in that they do not hate the christians at all. But you and your way of thinking make all christians hate the muslims for the deed of the criminals. That's dishonesty.
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat us. This is deeply rooted in Islamic teaching, beginning 1400 years ago with the examples set by Mohammed, and they've been doing it ever since. Mohammed is considered by Muslims to have been the perfect human being and they are to emulate him in literally every way (Koran 33:21 and 68:4).
Allah was a liar. Koran 3:54 says "Allah is the best of deceivers." (Who else is called "the father of lies?" Hm...) The Arabic word used is makara which literally means "deceit." If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Mohammed was a liar. He infamously said, "War is deceit." (Sahih Bukhari 52:269) The context for this was slaughter of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Mohammed's soldiers, after they had been disarmed and "guaranteed" safe passage.
There are several different forms of lying that are sacred to Muslims:
Taqiyya is saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity. This is a Shiite term. The Sunni counterpart is muda'rat.
Kitman is lying by omission.
Tawriya is intentionally creating a false impression.
Muruna is "blending in" by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.
More about the four types of lies here.
Muruna: Violating Sharia to Fool the West
Muslims lying about taqiyya
The only instance where lying has been condoned is in the case of war. where intelligence and counter intelligence is used. and you quoted correctly: war is deceit. as the only correct quote amongst all these.
As of calling God deceiver. you again chose to take but an excerpt, unveiling your intellectual dishonesty for all to see:
8:30 "And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they deceive, and Allah deceives [them]. And Allah is the best of deceivers."
Again, the context is key. these were the pagans I told you about in previous responses, who plotted to kill and deceive the prophet a few of the believers with him. the powerless muslims then left everything to God. And here God comforts them in sayin that although they will plot and scheme, God will deceive them and their schemes, and that in that God is the best deceiver. Is it an invitation for muslims to deceive or to lie? Absolutely not.
It is sad to see you go through these length to keep propagating lies. Again, I will talk to you the human, the person, "is this not the truth?" question yourself. everything is laid bare.