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posted ago by KGB82 ago by KGB82 +17 / -0

First, Revelations 13:7: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations."

Second, Revelations 12:12: "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down to you, having great wrath, because he knowth that he hath but a short time.

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SovereignSon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't fear a new heaven and earth. It happens all the time, and yes we are going through one. Our faith remains the same in whatever transpires, we trust God and stand on truth and speak the word. Most end times doctrine is wrong, i stand corrected.

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anon09 1 point ago +1 / -0

when do you think the last time this happened was?

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SovereignSon 1 point ago +1 / -0

For each individual it is different. Collectively? Maybe the founding of America? Lots of different things I guess, Isreal becoming a nation. For different peoples it would be differing events. Revelation was written for it's time with symbols they understood at that time. I believe it holds true in all generations though for all people.

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anon09 2 points ago +2 / -0

if that were so, that would mean death and hell have already been defeated and cast into the lake of fire, but death seems to still be very prevalent in the world.

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anon09 1 point ago +1 / -0

you think revelation was a reference to events like the founding of america?

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SovereignSon 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, just a new heaven and earth......referring to administration and layout. Who's in charge and the law they stand on, and how that translates into society