George Floyd passed out from fentanyl 20 min before he died. RIOTS INCOMING!
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That is exactly what happens to the ODs I have to deal with, especially if they just came off of a 2-3 day run on meth, even with no other drugs, meth heads crash and can sleep for a day or two. Fentanyl, etc eventually knocks them out without anything else, usually people think they are already dead unless they breath loudly enough once in a while. We get some low O2 reading, respirations in the gutter...inhaled narcan can take 5-10 minutes sometimes, and usually it wears off. Some coworkers have given 15 doses, and even then they may still die...AEDs don't help with this shit, they only work on vFib or vTach. Just O2, CPR, and counter agents... It's all so tiresome...
And what you described isn’t cheap either. People bitch about the healthcare system, but nothing of junkies gumming up the works. This may come as a shocker, but a lot of these junkies can’t pay all these medical bills. So the tax payers and the people who do carry health insurance, eat the costs. And shit go to just about any ER at any given time, in a major metro area, probably about a quarter to a half of the triage/census is fucking junkies.
You are exactly right. Healthcare cost are increased based on he amount of non-payers. Health insurance cost are increased based on the amount of continually expensive treatments based on negotiations. When we import people who get married and have insurance or medical, and get treated for 5-6 cancers at no cost to them over 2-3 decades. We eat the cost, sometimes as taxes, sometimes as premiums.
What an outstanding post. Good work Pede!
Every first responder should be trained to intubate, and every car should have an emergency respirator in the trunk. IMO. Along with AEDs, even if it's not relevant in this particular case. There's no reason cops and firefighters shouldn't be trained in the basics and equipped to respond accordingly.
Hell, give them all head mounted cameras and put them on live with someone to coach them from the local ER.
Intubation might be a bit much fore most people, but that is why they have bag-mask. Paramedics should be able to everywhere, as far as I know.
I mean. If the person is one minute from being DRT, I'd stop being concerned about the officer or firefighter having a hard time getting it right. It's more effective than CPR or a bag mask isn't it? And cops don't even carry bag masks.
They need to join the 21st century, IMO.
Give them a full kit, including sedatives and stimulants and plasma and an EKG. They can live stream to an ER for coaching.
Seems it's just typical government reluctance to adapt. How many people have died because tasers failed? And in 10 years they'll still be using that same ridiculous failure prone design.
You are basically describing a paramedic. They get there nearly as fast as the police already do. The difference being when the event needs a paramedic due to what happened after the police arrived. Everything already exist, therefore it may be more efficient to simply dispatch an ambulance for any 911 call if enough exist, but that is where they fall short. In my town we have enough, but as the population scales up to bigger cities, I would imagine this would fall behind.