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24601 -2 points ago +3 / -5

Bankers and Globalist Democrats...

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phandaal 11 points ago +14 / -3

Lincoln was fighting on behalf of bankers. The greatest fear of the Northern ruling class was that all of their trade would start going through Southern ports if the Confederates won their independence.

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Bullet3250 -5 points ago +3 / -8

SC fired the first shot.

No one wanted war.

Everyone thought it would be over 'in months'

NO ONE thought 700,000+ would die.

And arguments about 'northern bankers' are just BS.

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rabbidlemur 4 points ago +4 / -0

If nobody wanted war there would have been no war. Its very possible no one knew how expensive the war would be, but people on both sides were keyed up for war, while others were trying to avoid it.

As for SC firing the first shots, I don't think any country would put up with another country owning a fort that is within their borders, that controls access to a major port. That was an intentionally provocative action that Lincoln did in keeping the fort occupied.

I don't think Lincoln was necessarily the bad gut either. As another use said, I just see people doing their best with the difficult situations they find themselves in.