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basedvirginian 15 points ago +23 / -8

Habeus corpus being suspended during the civil war and jailing political rivals indefinitely makes you the “good guy” now?

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Bullet3250 2 points ago +10 / -8

Civil War with the Nation at risk - you bet.

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almond_activator 9 points ago +11 / -2

Lincoln had to choose between the soul of the Nation and the body of the State, and he chose the latter. He preserved the territory at the cost of the founding notion that we were self-governed and members of the Union by our consent.

He chose poorly, in my opinion.

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magacheeseball 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. At the end of the day, the results of some of these leaders have brought us to our current state of affairs in America. Whether it was Lincoln or Reagan or whoever, our country is degrading, immigration is on the rise, our rights are being eroded and the health of the government grows stronger all the time. The soul of our nation is dying, while the government gets bigger and more powerful. Objectively speaking, Lincoln should have made a deal with the States to protect their rights as enshrined in the Constitution.