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posted ago by NazisWereSocialist ago by NazisWereSocialist +16 / -0

Patriots.win is powerful in its current form, but organization is something we lack.

I know there are groups to get involved with, conservative charities and activist groups, or even helping to clean up the Republican Party.

But, I think Patriots.win as a community has a lot to bring to the table, we’re always first to know the latest fuckery, and we seem to have a firmer grasp on what’s really happening.

For example I know that your local Republican group knows it’s bad, but I’m not convinced the people who sit on the board of your local conservative group fully understand how real this authoritarian take over is.

They don’t have the hive mind to sniff out the stories that get missed, nor do they have the ability to crowdsource like we could, and I don’t just mean financial crowdsourcing, I mean things like leaflet and pamphlet distribution campaigns, cooperating whether in the real world or not to do things to quite literally save the world.

TLDR: We are a large group of passionate like minded individuals and I think we have a lot more power as a group than we are currently utilizing.

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NazisWereSocialist [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’re not wrong about what dismantling the patriarchy does, but the patriarchy also had problems, I know this is almost a straw man argument but for example laws protecting physical abuse of your wife.

I personally think we can design a system that allows for equality between the sexes while avoiding the inherent problems, I’m not going to pretend to know how, but I think we have a moral obligation to strive for it.

The reason why we are having problems can be generalized by saying it’s our foolhardy rejection of culture because of it’s flaws without thinking about the reasons for why things were the way they were.

Humanity spent tens of thousands of years figuring these things out and we are naive to think we can abandon traditions and culture because we know better.

In order to survive we need to remain conservative in regards to change but we also need to make changes.

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PermaHandshake 0 points ago +1 / -1

If a woman disrespects a man, she should get hit. By restricting and removing this mechanism of control in society, we've oppressed an advantage men have over women and thus suppressed the natural order. This has led to unhappy men and out of control women with poor outcomes for both sexes. From time-to-time a woman should get hit in order to curb her behavior and assert the truth of who is truly in charge. Women act like they are equal in a society where laws are all enforced by other men. This behavior of women is unbecoming and leads to a poor outcome.

Hitting women who don't deserve it is a problem but hitting women who deserve it is fine. Also, a wife has a duty to her husband which includes sex and if she isn't working toward her duty, she should be punished. Physical punishment is a viable method to discipline others.

The "problems" of the patriarchy were only problems that feminists made up to subvert the patriarchy. They were much less problematic than people realize because we've all been fed lies and propaganda. Most of the women truly did deserve it and needed to be put in their place.

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NazisWereSocialist [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m willing to entertain a more chauvinistic viewpoint, but here we are largely just preaching to the choir and what we need to do is work to pull the curtain back for the apolitical and brainwashed, so that being said we should probably start with the easier to swallow pills like how bullshit this trans kids push is.

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PermaHandshake 0 points ago +1 / -1

Just an area to organize all thoughts would be good.

Also, women is one of the easier ways to redpill men and ultimately, you'll need lots of single men willing to throw their life away if you want to finish the part about how to get your own society.

All wars are fought over resources and women is a resource to men to be fought over. You won't truly get the support you need for a new society until there's enough single men and/or families without food/shelter.

I don't think you should focus on trying to "frame things" in an easier to swallow pill. I think you're best approach is to be 100% brutally honest with the full truth. When you speak the truth, entirely unencumbered by cultural lies and propaganda, it resonates with people as if you're speaking to their very soul and they know it. When you try to be sneaky in presentation to "trick" people with "easier to swallow pills", you're just playing the same game as the deceivers and people dismiss it still all the same.

The way to wake people up is not through words. That is rarely how anyone wakes up. People wake up through feeling and it's often major life moments. Divorces, loss of jobs, not getting promotions, losing entire savings, etc... Then when these people are looking for answers, you present them the full truth. This is why revolutions and the like tend to happen around times of economic/social upheaval because there's more key moments where people begin to look for the truth and break out of the lies of the culture they'd been fed.

Perhaps at least having a full truth foundation to pull from allows for easier to create memes for converting as you'd say. A Bible so to speak of fundamental values and their you can quote certain parts of it to entice people to seek the full truth.