This is the hill to die on. Liberals have normalized the idea that people not from this country have any right to be here. We're the only country that does that. It's insanity.
I mean, sorry things are fucked up on Guatemala - but how about you stay there and clean up your own country, instead of getting a free ride here?
The problem with this movement is that we have too many liberals and libertarians larping as conservatives. They have no idea of what is really going on most times, and they easily believe the propaganda of many grifters who are coached on what to say.
Just like North Korea. LOL. What a stupid fucking statement. Immigration should always be an option for people willing to pledge their life to this country and embrace our values and heritage. I swear, are you even for real or just five years old w dads account for the evening?
Even then, we shouldn't have much immigration at this point.
Only immigrants should be those with deep pockets or big value who will make America better, such as Elon Musk, who is from South Africa!
My sister votes blue mainly due to abortion laws... She's pro choice.
But with immigration, she's 100% against all illegal immigration, and agrees with me that we shouldn't have nearly any immigration anymore.
We have 330+ million people here. Likely 350 million.
When will it be enough?
500 million?
1 billion?
More?!?
Fact is, America adds about 1 million new citizens a year. This excludes illegal immigration!
So we add 1 to 2 million new people annually, not including births here.
This leads to less avalible housing, higher cost of living, less resources, and those breeding the most are the most dependent on government aid to live.
They are draining out society.
I think the GOP is pro immigration because it helps inflate our economy.
Our gdp was what, 2% under Trump? Idk exactly.
But what's that really mean when we add millions of people to our economy?
If we didn't take into account that we added millions of people spending money, would we actually have as large of gdp?
Point is, republicans care too much about the economy.
I do to a bit, but let's be honest, it's only a matter of time until WW3 happens, and our debts cease to exist if we win, if we lose... Well, we have much bigger issues than debt and currency.
So to me, economics are only important to empower the working class to live well.
Middle class workers should not get fucked, yet who gets fucked the most? Us!
Not the rich. They never get fucked. And the poor? They get so many hand outs that many made as much money as I did last year sitting in their asses, me working 11 months a year (I take week long vacations here and there. I enjoy life!).
So I'm to a point where I care about the working class doing well, but care much more about freedom and civil liberties than anything else.
I want MAGA to focus more on freedom, a bit less on economics. Both are important, but FREEDOM > ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.
MAGA should focus more on Order, social cohesion than Freedom. We focus too much on freedom; what you described relates more to order and social cohesion over freedom. We cant enjoy our freedoms effectively without a semblance of order in society.
We're not really propping the nations so much as their dictators. Consider they'd be able to help themselves if we weren't Ugly-Americaning all of their resources. That US AID is more of a slush fund than actually helping them. All part of the grift.
Absolutely not, outside of revolution. The demon tribe of greed doesn't tolerate countries that are immune to their control. That's why they can't stand Iran or North Korea, since these are the last holdouts against global banker hegemony.
The elites obviously know what's best for everyone, so just shut up and work, sheep!
And not only so we let them be here, we also shower them with hardworking taxpayer money and benefits...$400/night luxury hotel rooms, healthcare, housing, food, cell phones, etc.
Meanwhile your average hardworking, taxpaying American citizen gets shafted and spit on by their government.
Your guns are going and not a single one of you will defend them with a gun grabbers life. None of you will do a thing except bitch on here or 4chan. And no, I don't glow.
This is the hill to die on. Liberals have normalized the idea that people not from this country have any right to be here. We're the only country that does that. It's insanity.
I mean, sorry things are fucked up on Guatemala - but how about you stay there and clean up your own country, instead of getting a free ride here?
The hill to die on is to welcome them after they've been given citizenship? Nope.
earned citizenship - yes
given citizenahip - nope
Illegals can never earn it.
i guess
a lot of them would go home if doing so didnt bar them from reentering legally in the future
Not in the current system they can't
We need to end immigration. We have enough people.
Won't people get it through their thick heads the U.S. is already the 3rd most populated country! No more!
We need to reverse the immigration of the last 55 years. We have too many people with no love for liberty.
We need to only accept immigrants that believe in traditional American values more so than the average American.
Some of them exist.
end immigration is just dumb
like, dumb as fuck
arr you paid to be here? wtf, whst country has no immigrarion? fucking north korea?! fucking retard go away
Im around legal immigrants every day. They dont like whites or americans. Keep humping the jew ideology
"As long as we are replaced... legally!"
The problem with this movement is that we have too many liberals and libertarians larping as conservatives. They have no idea of what is really going on most times, and they easily believe the propaganda of many grifters who are coached on what to say.
I saw this map and it is scary when You realize that America's migration mostly comes from China and Mexico; places with higher population and higher fertility than America. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
i grew up with people born here w illegal parents, people who are illegal, etc etc etc
they know they are NOT citizens amd they hold un American cultural values BUT
Big BUT
they get Americanized, whether they like it or not, especially their kids with our mass culture, sports, movies, etc
would be better if we stoppwd w the globohomo and promoted american history and values so the working people would know wtf thisbcountry is all about
The US needs zero immigration whatsoever for the foreseeable future.
Just like North Korea. LOL. What a stupid fucking statement. Immigration should always be an option for people willing to pledge their life to this country and embrace our values and heritage. I swear, are you even for real or just five years old w dads account for the evening?
Even then, we shouldn't have much immigration at this point.
Only immigrants should be those with deep pockets or big value who will make America better, such as Elon Musk, who is from South Africa!
My sister votes blue mainly due to abortion laws... She's pro choice.
But with immigration, she's 100% against all illegal immigration, and agrees with me that we shouldn't have nearly any immigration anymore.
We have 330+ million people here. Likely 350 million.
When will it be enough?
500 million?
1 billion?
More?!?
Fact is, America adds about 1 million new citizens a year. This excludes illegal immigration!
So we add 1 to 2 million new people annually, not including births here.
This leads to less avalible housing, higher cost of living, less resources, and those breeding the most are the most dependent on government aid to live.
They are draining out society.
I think the GOP is pro immigration because it helps inflate our economy.
Our gdp was what, 2% under Trump? Idk exactly.
But what's that really mean when we add millions of people to our economy?
If we didn't take into account that we added millions of people spending money, would we actually have as large of gdp?
Point is, republicans care too much about the economy.
I do to a bit, but let's be honest, it's only a matter of time until WW3 happens, and our debts cease to exist if we win, if we lose... Well, we have much bigger issues than debt and currency.
So to me, economics are only important to empower the working class to live well.
Middle class workers should not get fucked, yet who gets fucked the most? Us!
Not the rich. They never get fucked. And the poor? They get so many hand outs that many made as much money as I did last year sitting in their asses, me working 11 months a year (I take week long vacations here and there. I enjoy life!).
So I'm to a point where I care about the working class doing well, but care much more about freedom and civil liberties than anything else.
I want MAGA to focus more on freedom, a bit less on economics. Both are important, but FREEDOM > ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.
"I think the GOP is pro immigration because it helps inflate our economy."
You meant to say GOP likes low wages. Democrats also like low wages and new Democrat supporters.
MAGA should focus more on Order, social cohesion than Freedom. We focus too much on freedom; what you described relates more to order and social cohesion over freedom. We cant enjoy our freedoms effectively without a semblance of order in society.
Can we also stop propping up corrupt Central American regimes to help our own multination corporations exploit them?
Let's give them a fighting chance to fix their countries.
Why are we propping up any country other than our own? That shit needs to stop.
We're not really propping the nations so much as their dictators. Consider they'd be able to help themselves if we weren't Ugly-Americaning all of their resources. That US AID is more of a slush fund than actually helping them. All part of the grift.
Absolutely not, outside of revolution. The demon tribe of greed doesn't tolerate countries that are immune to their control. That's why they can't stand Iran or North Korea, since these are the last holdouts against global banker hegemony.
The elites obviously know what's best for everyone, so just shut up and work, sheep!
Accurate observation, but you left out Russia. Previous members of that club were Iraq, Syria, and Libya.
I detect a pattern.
And not only so we let them be here, we also shower them with hardworking taxpayer money and benefits...$400/night luxury hotel rooms, healthcare, housing, food, cell phones, etc.
Meanwhile your average hardworking, taxpaying American citizen gets shafted and spit on by their government.
Can you imagine?
Now that libs are trashing America and burning cities, if you could just up and take off to Ireland and start living on welfare day 1?
There'd be no one left here.
I'd pick someplace with better weather than Ireland.
But hot Irish chicks...?
Rosie O'Donnell ?!
Your guns are going and not a single one of you will defend them with a gun grabbers life. None of you will do a thing except bitch on here or 4chan. And no, I don't glow.
You are right. As long as people have food and Netflix, they will submit - regardless of the posturing online.
Well, that's an opinion.