I have a problem with it if they can't actually afford to do so and others are paying for it, which is what this would be. ETA Aside from what I personally do or don't have a problem, practically speaking, this is a stupid thing to do policy wise. Anything that exacerbates housing shortage further is 100% stupid... including foreclosure moratoriums by the way.
It’s less expensive to allow them to live in the home that they own, than to put them into a nursing home. Also, it’s more than money, it’s called dignity.
I wonder what your parents will think when they find out your plans for them.
I know all about the housing inventory. I live in NH and people from all over the country are moving here because of Covid. NH natives cannot buy because the out of sisters have cash. I’m more concerned about them bringing in their liberal views. New homes can always be built. One such person asked me if she could register her non citizen husband to vote because he could in california.
My dad already passed away 20 years ago. My mom sold her home because it's silly to keep a big house for one person (or 2, as she remarried a few years ago). Her husband sold his home too and they are living life traveling in a luxury RV. They will each be taken care of when / if that time comes, but staying alone in a big house is kind of pointless. I also point back to the simple practicality of policy. Creating any policies right now that do anything to strangle off housing supply is extremely stupid, so I'm not surprised Biden wants to do this, but definitely annoyed.
Older people are downsizing. My husband and I did just that two years ago. I don’t regret it. If it comes time that one of us is left and needs help, I’d much rather have someone help us in our hime than place us in a facility. You know, where they can send sick people in to kill off most of us.
I think families should be the ones providing that help, that's all. It shouldn't be the government creating yet another program which is all this is that Biden is proposing.
Maybe if we stopped letting millions of people migrate to the United States every year, legal and illegal, we wouldn't have this housing shortage. Maybe if we stopped allowing foreign companies to buy up all the inventory of cheaper single family homes in American cities and then rent them out, we wouldn't have this housing shortage.
There are lots of reasons it's happening, including the ones you mentioned. I'm just not in favor of creating a policy that will specifically exacerbate the issue even more. Families should take care of aging loved ones' needs, not taxpayers / the federal govt.
Uh, say what? People should damn well be able to live out their lives in their homes rather than be tossed into facility that will rob them blind and expose them to abuse.
We actually need to go back to when families took care of their loved ones AT home instead of leaving it up to others to do so.
How is the government creating a program where taxpayers pay for older people to have a caregiver (stranger) in their home "families taking care of their loved ones"? It isn't. It's more government programs and dependence.
I never said anything agreeing with the Govt paying for any of it. And you DO realize that that Govt is ALREADY paying for older people to be cared for in nursing homes/assisted living centers at a MUCH higher cost than what in home care costs, dont you?
If that is the case, then that needs to be overhauled. There is no reason why paying for large groups of people living in one building should cost more than paying for all of those people to live in separate houses.
It's their homes and they should be able to stay there regardless of the status of housing supply. Many feel safe in the homes that they cared for all these years regardless of the number of bedrooms and baths; they would be like fish out of water if you put them somewhere else.
On someone else's dime, they should be allowed to stay? Sorry, I don't think so. If you (like some other commenters) do have thoughts on how I feel about or would treat my own parents, read the comment thread first as those assumptions or wrong.
You think the rest of the country should pay for them to have in home care givers, while single family housing supply is sucked up by aging 1-person households? Ridiculous. If they can pay for it, fine, but creating a policy to specifically help create this situation is not smart. Family can take care of them, instead of taxpayers all over the country.
I have no problem with that. The elderly have paid into endless wars and food stamps and abortions etc. And when they get old, they get kicked aside and tossed into a old folks home where they get covid etc. All because there kids do not want to be bothered.
If only more people didn't frown upon the idea of 'living with their parents' the living situation for many aging people wouldn't be so bad. The close-nit family that grows under the same roof seems to be a relic of the past. I realize there's millions of variables for everyone's situation but modern culture seems to push people away from multi-generation living. You'd think under the economic situations for many that it would be seen as a good thing these days. But anyways, this whole thing seems like government trying to squeeze its way into taking control of even more health care.
I'm not at all opposed to multi-generational living, especially to help take care of an aging parent. I'm just opposed to the government trying to stick the entire country with the bill to pay for people's in-home care so they can stay as one person in house much bigger than needed. It's ridiculous. Now if they can pay for that care themselves, that's another thing.
So judging by some of the emotional irrational responses of approval that I see here to Biden's proposal to have the government pay for in-home caregivers, specifically so that aging single people can stay in their large homes while young families have nowhere to live, it's clear that many don't actually believe the government should stay out of peoples' lives and out of their pockets. Apparently staying in other peoples' pockets and benefiting oneself is just fine. Families, of the person themself, should be the ones to take care of these financial needs... not taxpayers. It's basically an extension of social security which has evolved into a ponzi scheme, and this would surely do the same thing over time.
I don't have a problem with aging people staying in a home they paid for until they die.
I have a problem with it if they can't actually afford to do so and others are paying for it, which is what this would be. ETA Aside from what I personally do or don't have a problem, practically speaking, this is a stupid thing to do policy wise. Anything that exacerbates housing shortage further is 100% stupid... including foreclosure moratoriums by the way.
It’s less expensive to allow them to live in the home that they own, than to put them into a nursing home. Also, it’s more than money, it’s called dignity.
I wonder what your parents will think when they find out your plans for them.
exactly. he will toss them in a home the first chance he gets
Sad. It’s a weird argument using housing inventory.
you do know when I say HOME its an Old folks home right??
I do.
Tight housing inventory is the #1 issue in the country right now and the number one thing that will send our economy off a cliff. Wait and see.
I know all about the housing inventory. I live in NH and people from all over the country are moving here because of Covid. NH natives cannot buy because the out of sisters have cash. I’m more concerned about them bringing in their liberal views. New homes can always be built. One such person asked me if she could register her non citizen husband to vote because he could in california.
ugh.... (curious what you told her)
Older people are not the cause of a tight housing market. You anger at them is misplaced.
My dad already passed away 20 years ago. My mom sold her home because it's silly to keep a big house for one person (or 2, as she remarried a few years ago). Her husband sold his home too and they are living life traveling in a luxury RV. They will each be taken care of when / if that time comes, but staying alone in a big house is kind of pointless. I also point back to the simple practicality of policy. Creating any policies right now that do anything to strangle off housing supply is extremely stupid, so I'm not surprised Biden wants to do this, but definitely annoyed.
Older people are downsizing. My husband and I did just that two years ago. I don’t regret it. If it comes time that one of us is left and needs help, I’d much rather have someone help us in our hime than place us in a facility. You know, where they can send sick people in to kill off most of us.
I think families should be the ones providing that help, that's all. It shouldn't be the government creating yet another program which is all this is that Biden is proposing.
Families do if they can. Even they need help when they do.
Maybe if we stopped letting millions of people migrate to the United States every year, legal and illegal, we wouldn't have this housing shortage. Maybe if we stopped allowing foreign companies to buy up all the inventory of cheaper single family homes in American cities and then rent them out, we wouldn't have this housing shortage.
There are lots of reasons it's happening, including the ones you mentioned. I'm just not in favor of creating a policy that will specifically exacerbate the issue even more. Families should take care of aging loved ones' needs, not taxpayers / the federal govt.
Uh, say what? People should damn well be able to live out their lives in their homes rather than be tossed into facility that will rob them blind and expose them to abuse.
We actually need to go back to when families took care of their loved ones AT home instead of leaving it up to others to do so.
How is the government creating a program where taxpayers pay for older people to have a caregiver (stranger) in their home "families taking care of their loved ones"? It isn't. It's more government programs and dependence.
I never said anything agreeing with the Govt paying for any of it. And you DO realize that that Govt is ALREADY paying for older people to be cared for in nursing homes/assisted living centers at a MUCH higher cost than what in home care costs, dont you?
If that is the case, then that needs to be overhauled. There is no reason why paying for large groups of people living in one building should cost more than paying for all of those people to live in separate houses.
It's their homes and they should be able to stay there regardless of the status of housing supply. Many feel safe in the homes that they cared for all these years regardless of the number of bedrooms and baths; they would be like fish out of water if you put them somewhere else.
On someone else's dime, they should be allowed to stay? Sorry, I don't think so. If you (like some other commenters) do have thoughts on how I feel about or would treat my own parents, read the comment thread first as those assumptions or wrong.
whats wrong with Old people getting taken care of? They paid their taxes for there whole life
You think the rest of the country should pay for them to have in home care givers, while single family housing supply is sucked up by aging 1-person households? Ridiculous. If they can pay for it, fine, but creating a policy to specifically help create this situation is not smart. Family can take care of them, instead of taxpayers all over the country.
I have no problem with that. The elderly have paid into endless wars and food stamps and abortions etc. And when they get old, they get kicked aside and tossed into a old folks home where they get covid etc. All because there kids do not want to be bothered.
If only more people didn't frown upon the idea of 'living with their parents' the living situation for many aging people wouldn't be so bad. The close-nit family that grows under the same roof seems to be a relic of the past. I realize there's millions of variables for everyone's situation but modern culture seems to push people away from multi-generation living. You'd think under the economic situations for many that it would be seen as a good thing these days. But anyways, this whole thing seems like government trying to squeeze its way into taking control of even more health care.
I'm not at all opposed to multi-generational living, especially to help take care of an aging parent. I'm just opposed to the government trying to stick the entire country with the bill to pay for people's in-home care so they can stay as one person in house much bigger than needed. It's ridiculous. Now if they can pay for that care themselves, that's another thing.
But you seem to want the Govt to step in and tell older people they no longer have the right to live in THEIR homes.
Absolutely not. I just don't want the government to pay for the expenses required for them to do so.
So judging by some of the emotional irrational responses of approval that I see here to Biden's proposal to have the government pay for in-home caregivers, specifically so that aging single people can stay in their large homes while young families have nowhere to live, it's clear that many don't actually believe the government should stay out of peoples' lives and out of their pockets. Apparently staying in other peoples' pockets and benefiting oneself is just fine. Families, of the person themself, should be the ones to take care of these financial needs... not taxpayers. It's basically an extension of social security which has evolved into a ponzi scheme, and this would surely do the same thing over time.