lmao.. like Russians aren't fascists in their own right. Don't try and fool me with the "fascist" argument, when Russians are as fascist as anyone. I agree with you about Obama and Mccain, CIA, EU, etc stealing Ukraine.. but our politicians are all from the same leaf. Greedy pigs.
Also the eastern Ukraine russian theme is tired. That may be the case. But they are not threatened unless they try to seccede or fight in a civil war against their government. hmmm.. let's see.. like the Islamists fighting in Syria against Assad that Russia has been killing for the past 5 years.
I don't think fascism is the right description for what Russia currently is, but I don't have a better term. Sort of like our own current tyrants, they haven't invented the right descriptors for them yet. The old "isms" aren't accurate anymore.
The ethnic strife we're discussing didn't just start recently. A lot of this animosity goes back centuries, something Americans don't understand for the obvious reasons. There's some truth that the Ukraine/Russian issues date back to Khazarian days. Many of the Bolsheviks were not Russian.
I don't know about the ethnic issues between Ukraine/Russia, I guess there are multiple ethnicities in Ukraine/Russia, like ALL countries. But just because you don't agree with your government doesn't mean you can start civil war. What government willfully stand for this? not China, not Syria, not Russia.. except for the controlled Muslim lands where Russia owns the warlords to shut down the extremism..
As far as fascism.. the current Russian program under Putin defines "fascism".
the current Russian program under Putin defines "fascism
I get your argument. I'm exhausted and can't articulate my counter, but there's a difference, I think, that makes that label a bit inaccurate. I'm sure we can get into this another time when I can present a better case than "I disagree".
The ethnic/religious issues are important to this story, and it really does go back quite some time. Some interpretations of history suggest this is a story that matters more than we'd think. I'm not an expert on the history of the region, but have read enough to think that it's something to be aware of.
Let's say California breaks away in it's own country. Southern California aligns with Mexico and they start to push anti American laws. Northern California remains mostly American and they don't want to be part of that bullshit anymore. Would you stand idly or would you try to reannex northern California at that point?
lmao.. like Russians aren't fascists in their own right. Don't try and fool me with the "fascist" argument, when Russians are as fascist as anyone. I agree with you about Obama and Mccain, CIA, EU, etc stealing Ukraine.. but our politicians are all from the same leaf. Greedy pigs.
Also the eastern Ukraine russian theme is tired. That may be the case. But they are not threatened unless they try to seccede or fight in a civil war against their government. hmmm.. let's see.. like the Islamists fighting in Syria against Assad that Russia has been killing for the past 5 years.
I don't think fascism is the right description for what Russia currently is, but I don't have a better term. Sort of like our own current tyrants, they haven't invented the right descriptors for them yet. The old "isms" aren't accurate anymore.
The ethnic strife we're discussing didn't just start recently. A lot of this animosity goes back centuries, something Americans don't understand for the obvious reasons. There's some truth that the Ukraine/Russian issues date back to Khazarian days. Many of the Bolsheviks were not Russian.
It's pretty freakin complex.
The best definition would be ultra-nationalist with a strong arm leader.
I can live with that definition.
I don't know about the ethnic issues between Ukraine/Russia, I guess there are multiple ethnicities in Ukraine/Russia, like ALL countries. But just because you don't agree with your government doesn't mean you can start civil war. What government willfully stand for this? not China, not Syria, not Russia.. except for the controlled Muslim lands where Russia owns the warlords to shut down the extremism..
As far as fascism.. the current Russian program under Putin defines "fascism".
I get your argument. I'm exhausted and can't articulate my counter, but there's a difference, I think, that makes that label a bit inaccurate. I'm sure we can get into this another time when I can present a better case than "I disagree".
The ethnic/religious issues are important to this story, and it really does go back quite some time. Some interpretations of history suggest this is a story that matters more than we'd think. I'm not an expert on the history of the region, but have read enough to think that it's something to be aware of.
yeah, bottom line. stop invading other countries if you don't want trouble.. Unless you are America, or our ally. Or Russia lol
The founders of the United States of America would disagree with you there.
The founding fathers wrote a lengthy document explaining that mere disagrement wasn't enough of a reason to do what they were about to do.
Let's say California breaks away in it's own country. Southern California aligns with Mexico and they start to push anti American laws. Northern California remains mostly American and they don't want to be part of that bullshit anymore. Would you stand idly or would you try to reannex northern California at that point?
Yeah and for those of you who don’t get it, California is an analogy for Ukraine, and Mexico is an analogy for a Russia.
I wouldn't have let California break away in the first place. PERIOD.
Many people here are complete morons when it comes to Russia. I doubt they know that 20% of Russia’s population are Muslims.
Not exactly Russian when they are pretty much all from Chechnya, which is basically an entire different country in itself.
Sure but they're still IN Russia. They vote and influence Russia.
They hate Russia. And voting in Russia is a joke.